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Kerry Stottlemyer
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Post by Kerry Stottlemyer » Sat May 12, 2007 8:21 am

> > Who are we to pass judgment on what is and isn't a mod? One man's mod > may be another man's minor adjustment. Big deal.
Just as on mans basic home machined part is another major feat in garage blacksmith fabrication. It just depends on one's skill level and the quality and type of tools he owns My deffs Mod = any significant change to a part mechanicly or asteticly Farkle = Any bolt on bling or aftermarket part weather practical or not. Mods can not be farkled but farkles can be moded Tongue firmly planted in cheak :) Kerry

Norm Keller
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Post by Norm Keller » Sat May 12, 2007 10:30 am

Not your post at all. I enjoy everything you are generous enough to send. The posts which are out of line were sent directly with no DSN in either line. It is possible that they were also posted separately to the list but I think it's time to take a break from the DSN list, regardless. All the reading, posting on and off list to try to help others takes a lot of time and energy as you know and sometimes the timing and content of rudeness conspires to remove enthusiasm. Good times with the tech day, Norm

James Flower
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Post by James Flower » Sat May 12, 2007 12:11 pm

Norm-- As one of those who get a lot more out of this list than I put in (I wanted an MIT scholarship for putting on a beaded seat cover!), I will miss you. I have never come across a group of enthusiasts as knowledgeable and helpful as this one. I regret living where I can't get to all these rides and tech days, but the list is a lifesaver (sometimes literally). And you're one of the best. Don't leave! Or at least, come back soon. -Jamie
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Norm Keller" wrote: > > Wow, there are some nit-picky types out there! > > My list is 1/2 joke and 1/2 just to keep a running list of things done. It isn't intended to be a "one up" on anyone.I don't take this seriously at all as it's just a hobby. > > I think it's time to unsubscribe for a while and do something else. Too nasty for my taste. > > Norm > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

Russell Scott
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Post by Russell Scott » Sat May 12, 2007 6:11 pm

Is bending or breaking something considered a mod. If it is, I must be near the top of the mod list. The time my bike caught on fire was my most prolific day. R DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Kerry Stottlemyer Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:21 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: More Modifications
> > Who are we to pass judgment on what is and isn't a mod? One man's mod > may be another man's minor adjustment. Big deal.
Just as on mans basic home machined part is another major feat in garage blacksmith fabrication. It just depends on one's skill level and the quality and type of tools he owns My deffs Mod = any significant change to a part mechanicly or asteticly Farkle = Any bolt on bling or aftermarket part weather practical or not. Mods can not be farkled but farkles can be moded Tongue firmly planted in cheak :) Kerry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

revmaaatin
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Post by revmaaatin » Sun May 13, 2007 12:20 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" wrote:
> > Who are we to pass judgment on what is and isn't a mod? One man's
mod
> may be another man's minor adjustment. Big deal. > > FWIW, my criterion is that if a person intentionally acts to change
the
> bike in any way from its stock setup, its a mod. Its up to the
reader to
> decide whether it is or is not a significant mod, hopefully in
private.
> Personally I enjoy skimming your mods list when it shows up but I
think
> the best mod is the dent we all put in our seats when we're riding. > > Mike A18
List, and beyond. Perhaps we have all noticed the newest summer mod (again). $3.25/gal in central SD. THAT certainly mods my 'lovely attitude' when I fill up the 44gal Suburban or 5 gal of KLR smiles. YIKES! I am going to have to exchange my winter air for summer air in my other 2-wheel conveyance, and I mean, pedal conveyance. revmaaatin.

fuelistocheap
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Post by fuelistocheap » Sun May 13, 2007 11:04 pm

Well i have to say you hit a soft spot complaining about fuel prices. I Drill oil and Gas wells For a living . In a typical year in my company 3 men die. And mabey 15-20 loose fingers/hands. not to mention the one hundred or so That require hospitalization for other injurys.As for the costs involved in getting the fuel to you! After A sesmic survey ( easily a few million if helicopters involved). Buying rights to the land ( few hunded thou - several mil), Building an acess road and drilling lease ( half mil) Drilling a Few miles in the earth. Few hunded thou to 20+ mil. Post drilling environmental clean up.( up to 1 mil) Government well Head taxes. building pipeline from well head to existing pipe line. Or build Resivoir on site. Hundred thou to mil. Refine the oil into gas and add appropriate additives. Truck the refined fuel to local Gas stations.Then it gets pumped into your vehicle where the price includes Both federal and State taxes. And the oil company still has turn a profit for share holders. They do it by volume! they are lucky to get a dime of profit out of a gallon. And yet still you complain and feel you are being gouged. If fuel were say perhaps double what it is now We would all buy alot less and use more efficient modes of transit. Perhaps we would live close enough to ride a bicycle to work or even walk. we might carpool and take transit. The feasability of alternative fuels would increase. And you never know more people might even enjoy the ride to work on there fuel sipping klr. Sorry for the rant folks but i can,t stand whining about fuel when most of us would pay 5 bucks for a simple 18 0z coffee from starbucks and not even think we were being gouged. Don,t get sucked in By marketing. And remember those guys who die every year just so you can have gas to burn as you see fit. o=--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:
> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" > wrote: > > > > Who are we to pass judgment on what is and isn't a mod? One
man's
> mod > > may be another man's minor adjustment. Big deal. > > > > FWIW, my criterion is that if a person intentionally acts to
change
> the > > bike in any way from its stock setup, its a mod. Its up to the > reader to > > decide whether it is or is not a significant mod, hopefully in > private. > > Personally I enjoy skimming your mods list when it shows up but
I
> think > > the best mod is the dent we all put in our seats when we're
riding.
> > > > Mike A18 > > List, and beyond. > Perhaps we have all noticed the newest summer mod (again). > $3.25/gal in central SD. THAT certainly mods my 'lovely
attitude'
> when I fill up the 44gal Suburban or 5 gal of KLR smiles. YIKES!
I
> am going to have to exchange my winter air for summer air in my
other
> 2-wheel conveyance, and I mean, pedal conveyance. revmaaatin. >

Lloyd Rauschkolb
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Post by Lloyd Rauschkolb » Sun May 13, 2007 11:35 pm

Boo Hoo. You are REALLY breaking my heart! You chose your profession, so if it is too much for you to deal with quit and do something that doesn't put you in so much danger. Now since you are such an authority, please tell us how much profit all these American oil companies made this last quarter that requires them to bump fuel prices up so high to make a profit this quarter. Jeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz! Lloyd Rauschkolb Gulfport, Mississippi fuelistocheap wrote: Well i have to say you hit a soft spot complaining about fuel prices. I Drill oil and Gas wells For a living . In a typical year in my company 3 men die. And mabey 15-20 loose fingers/hands. not to mention the one hundred or so That require hospitalization for other injurys.As for the costs involved in getting the fuel to you! After A sesmic survey ( easily a few million if helicopters involved). Buying rights to the land ( few hunded thou - several mil), Building an acess road and drilling lease ( half mil) Drilling a Few miles in the earth. Few hunded thou to 20+ mil. Post drilling environmental clean up.( up to 1 mil) Government well Head taxes. building pipeline from well head to existing pipe line. Or build Resivoir on site. Hundred thou to mil. Refine the oil into gas and add appropriate additives. Truck the refined fuel to local Gas stations.Then it gets pumped into your vehicle where the price includes Both federal and State taxes. And the oil company still has turn a profit for share holders. They do it by volume! they are lucky to get a dime of profit out of a gallon. And yet still you complain and feel you are being gouged. If fuel were say perhaps double what it is now We would all buy alot less and use more efficient modes of transit. Perhaps we would live close enough to ride a bicycle to work or even walk. we might carpool and take transit. The feasability of alternative fuels would increase. And you never know more people might even enjoy the ride to work on there fuel sipping klr. Sorry for the rant folks but i can,t stand whining about fuel when most of us would pay 5 bucks for a simple 18 0z coffee from starbucks and not even think we were being gouged. Don,t get sucked in By marketing. And remember those guys who die every year just so you can have gas to burn as you see fit. o=--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:
> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" > wrote: > > > > Who are we to pass judgment on what is and isn't a mod? One
man's
> mod > > may be another man's minor adjustment. Big deal. > > > > FWIW, my criterion is that if a person intentionally acts to
change
> the > > bike in any way from its stock setup, its a mod. Its up to the > reader to > > decide whether it is or is not a significant mod, hopefully in > private. > > Personally I enjoy skimming your mods list when it shows up but
I
> think > > the best mod is the dent we all put in our seats when we're
riding.
> > > > Mike A18 > > List, and beyond. > Perhaps we have all noticed the newest summer mod (again). > $3.25/gal in central SD. THAT certainly mods my 'lovely
attitude'
> when I fill up the 44gal Suburban or 5 gal of KLR smiles. YIKES!
I
> am going to have to exchange my winter air for summer air in my
other
> 2-wheel conveyance, and I mean, pedal conveyance. revmaaatin. >
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C L Cooper
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Post by C L Cooper » Mon May 14, 2007 1:17 am

If you think energy costs are too high now, oil companies are "ripping us off", the true cost of oil isn't reflected in the price, the true cost of transportation isn't reflected in goods we consume, tree huggers have restricted exploration and development of refineries, whatever, only two words.... "Hubbert's Peak". Chuck C San Diego, CA
On 5/13/07, Lloyd Rauschkolb wrote: > > Boo Hoo. You are REALLY breaking my heart! You chose your profession, so > if it is too much for you to deal with quit and do something that doesn't > put you in so much danger. > > Now since you are such an authority, please tell us how much profit all > these American oil companies made this last quarter that requires them to > bump fuel prices up so high to make a profit this quarter. > Jeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz! > > Lloyd Rauschkolb > Gulfport, Mississippi > > fuelistocheap > wrote: Well i > have to say you hit a soft spot complaining about fuel > prices. I Drill oil and Gas wells For a living . In a typical year > in my company 3 men die. And mabey 15-20 loose fingers/hands. not to > mention the one hundred or so That require hospitalization for other > injurys.As for the costs involved in getting the fuel to you! After > A sesmic survey ( easily a few million if helicopters involved). > Buying rights to the land ( few hunded thou - several mil), Building > an acess road and drilling lease ( half mil) Drilling a Few miles in > the earth. Few hunded thou to 20+ mil. Post drilling environmental > clean up.( up to 1 mil) Government well Head taxes. building > pipeline from well head to existing pipe line. Or build Resivoir on > site. Hundred thou to mil. Refine the oil into gas and add > appropriate additives. Truck the refined fuel to local Gas > stations.Then it gets pumped into your vehicle where the price > includes Both federal and State taxes. And the oil company still has > turn a profit for share holders. They do it by volume! they are > lucky to get a dime of profit out of a gallon. And yet still you > complain and feel you are being gouged. If fuel were say perhaps > double what it is now We would all buy alot less and use more > efficient modes of transit. Perhaps we would live close enough to > ride a bicycle to work or even walk. we might carpool and take > transit. The feasability of alternative fuels would increase. And > you never know more people might even enjoy the ride to work on > there fuel sipping klr. Sorry for the rant folks but i can,t > stand whining about fuel when most of us would pay 5 bucks for a > simple 18 0z coffee from starbucks and not even think we were being > gouged. Don,t get sucked in By marketing. And remember those guys > who die every year just so you can have gas to burn as you see fit. > > o=--- > In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , "revmaaatin" > wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , > "Michael Silverstein" > > wrote: > > > > > > Who are we to pass judgment on what is and isn't a mod? One > man's > > mod > > > may be another man's minor adjustment. Big deal. > > > > > > FWIW, my criterion is that if a person intentionally acts to > change > > the > > > bike in any way from its stock setup, its a mod. Its up to the > > reader to > > > decide whether it is or is not a significant mod, hopefully in > > private. > > > Personally I enjoy skimming your mods list when it shows up but > I > > think > > > the best mod is the dent we all put in our seats when we're > riding. > > > > > > Mike A18 > > > > List, and beyond. > > Perhaps we have all noticed the newest summer mod (again). > > $3.25/gal in central SD. THAT certainly mods my 'lovely > attitude' > > when I fill up the 44gal Suburban or 5 gal of KLR smiles. YIKES! > I > > am going to have to exchange my winter air for summer air in my > other > > 2-wheel conveyance, and I mean, pedal conveyance. revmaaatin. > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

noloincognere
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Post by noloincognere » Mon May 14, 2007 7:12 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "C L Cooper" wrote:
> > If you think energy costs are too high now, oil companies
are "ripping us
> off", the true cost of oil isn't reflected in the price, the true
cost of
> transportation isn't reflected in goods we consume, tree huggers
have
> restricted exploration and development of refineries, whatever,
only two
> words.... "Hubbert's Peak". > > Chuck C > San Diego, CA
For those on the list who are not familiar with Hubbert's Peak, and the concept of Peak Oil, there is an excellent group on Yahoo, ROE2@.... (ROE=Running on Empty)Also, try Googling "Peak Oil" A warning however, it may be extremely depressing. After a year or more on that list, I finally unsubscibed and stuck my head back in the sand. We have plenty up here, where gas is pushing $3.30/gal. and retailers are making about $.08/gal. Not much of margin there. John O. Empire, MI

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Post by mbetcher » Mon May 14, 2007 8:59 am

As the other fella said, "Boo hoo" indeed. Your tale of the tragic sacrifice oil companies make so selflessly on our behalf could be just as easily applied to any other industry. Agricultural workers breathe in dust and toxic pesticides, iron workers fall off bridges, etc., etc., etc. And as for the cost of production do you think that the apples in your local Safeway just show up there by some magical process rather than through an expensive and complicated supply chain? The principal difference is that most industries operate in a free market environment where their profit margins are defined by supply and demand, rather than by a tight cabal of oil producers and refiners, all of whom have a vested interest in minimizing competition as a means of maximizing profit. You can cry all you want about your noble suffering, but the end-of-year profit statements of big oil indicate that obscene profiteering is the norm. Enron executives finally got caught manipulating the electricity market -- we can only hope that ExxonMobile execs meet the same fate. By the way, if your work is so dirty and dangerous why don't you try something else? Haven't you suffered enough for your fellow man? How much selflesss nobility can one person be expected to show?
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fuelistocheap" wrote: > > Well i have to say you hit a soft spot complaining about fuel > prices. I Drill oil and Gas wells For a living . In a typical year > in my company 3 men die. And mabey 15-20 loose fingers/hands. not to > mention the one hundred or so That require hospitalization for other > injurys.As for the costs involved in getting the fuel to you! After > A sesmic survey ( easily a few million if helicopters involved). > Buying rights to the land ( few hunded thou - several mil), Building > an acess road and drilling lease ( half mil) Drilling a Few miles in > the earth. Few hunded thou to 20+ mil. Post drilling environmental > clean up.( up to 1 mil) Government well Head taxes. building > pipeline from well head to existing pipe line. Or build Resivoir on > site. Hundred thou to mil. Refine the oil into gas and add > appropriate additives. Truck the refined fuel to local Gas > stations.Then it gets pumped into your vehicle where the price > includes Both federal and State taxes. And the oil company still has > turn a profit for share holders. They do it by volume! they are > lucky to get a dime of profit out of a gallon. And yet still you > complain and feel you are being gouged. If fuel were say perhaps > double what it is now We would all buy alot less and use more > efficient modes of transit. Perhaps we would live close enough to > ride a bicycle to work or even walk. we might carpool and take > transit. The feasability of alternative fuels would increase. And > you never know more people might even enjoy the ride to work on > there fuel sipping klr. Sorry for the rant folks but i can,t > stand whining about fuel when most of us would pay 5 bucks for a > simple 18 0z coffee from starbucks and not even think we were being > gouged. Don,t get sucked in By marketing. And remember those guys > who die every year just so you can have gas to burn as you see fit. >

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