TD - Off subject

[DenKlemm@aol.com]

I have a TD that has set for quite some time. Apparently the clutch disc has glued itself to the flywheel. The clutch pedal travel is right, the throw bearing shaft is moving (~3/8"), but the flywheel remains coupled to the transmission. I've tried bumping the car with the starter in gear, but it is still stuck. Any suggestions. Thanks for your help. Dennis Klemm 34PA 36TA 38VA 51TD [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[tom metcalf]

Dennis, just jack rear axle off the ground with somebody at the wheel. Start engine with rear tires up and g'box in neutral. Rev engine slightly and drop the jack quickly. Great fun. Clutch disk usually pops free and it's a great way of testing your half shafts. tommm

----- Original Message ----- From: DenKlemm@aol.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] TD - Off subject > I have a TD that has set for quite some time. Apparently the clutch disc has > glued itself to the flywheel. The clutch pedal travel is right, the throw > bearing shaft is moving (~3/8"), but the flywheel remains coupled to the > transmission. I've tried bumping the car with the starter in gear, but it is > still stuck. Any suggestions. > Thanks for your help. > Dennis Klemm > 34PA > 36TA > 38VA > 51TD > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[yd3@nvc.net]

Tomm: I think you'd better try describing that process again, as leaving the gear box in nuetral isn't the way to do it. Blake

[Clive Sherriff]

I'D SUGGEST IT WILL BE SAFER TO JUST PRESS THE FOOTBRAKE! The usual method is jack up the rear and support the chassis too. Get the engine warm so it starts easy Put in second and start up so wheels spin Run in gear up to a decent revs - 2500 - 3000 Press down Clutch Hit footbrake Big Bang Clutch usually free Else repeat with more vigour! Clive ===================================== Dennis, just jack rear axle off the ground with somebody at the wheel. Start engine with rear tires up and g'box in neutral. Rev engine slightly and drop the jack quickly. Great fun. Clutch disk usually pops free and it's a great way of testing your half shafts. tommm

----- Original Message ----- From: DenKlemm@aol.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] TD - Off subject > I have a TD that has set for quite some time. Apparently the clutch disc has > glued itself to the flywheel.

[Chip Hellie]

Dennis, Why bother the hassal with jacking up the car. Just plop it in gear and start it. Then with the clutch pedal down, nail the throttle on and off a few times and it shall unstick! Make sure your passenger has their hand over their Gin and tonic or they will be wearing their drink! Chip Hellie (the other Chip) --- DenKlemm@aol.com wrote:

> I have a TD that has set for quite some time. > Apparently the clutch disc has > glued itself to the flywheel. The clutch pedal > travel is right, the throw > bearing shaft is moving (~3/8"), but the flywheel > remains coupled to the > transmission. I've tried bumping the car with the > starter in gear, but it is > still stuck. Any suggestions. > Thanks for your help. > Dennis Klemm > 34PA > 36TA > 38VA > 51TD > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[Clive Sherriff]

You're missing the point - the clutch is stuck! All you get from your idea is a bent starter motor shaft Clive ============================

>>>Dennis,

Why bother the hassal with jacking up the car. Just plop it in gear and start it. Then with the clutch pedal down, nail the throttle on and off a few times and it shall unstick! Make sure your passenger has their hand over their Gin and tonic or they will be wearing their drink! Chip Hellie (the other Chip)

[i.thomson@talk21.com]

Interesting ideas about freeing off a stuck clutch here and most inaccurate or at least not fully explained. Jacking up the car and starting the engine will have the rear wheel(s) turning through the stuck clutch. Revving the engine with your foot on the clutch and then applying the brake will usually clear it with a frighteningly loud bang. Make sure the car is well supported though - and if you have a LSD lift both wheels off the floor! If you don't trust the car not to jump off the stands and head off through the garage door you can do the same thing on the road. Just find a clear stretch of road (difficult when you can't drive the car), start it in gear (hopping forward while starting) and when under way push the clutch and brake in that order. Once again same bang but different danger if there is other traffic around. Best bet is to keep the clutch depressed when laid up (stick against the seat or clamp on the chain). Good Lock. Ian T. --

> You're missing the point - the clutch is stuck! All you get >from your idea is a bent starter motor shaft > >Clive >============================ > >Dennis, >Why bother the hassal with jacking up the car. Just >plop it in gear and start it. Then with the clutch >pedal down, nail the throttle on and off a few times >and it shall unstick! Make sure your passenger has >their hand over their Gin and tonic or they will be >wearing their drink! >Chip Hellie (the other Chip) > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/'>[url=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

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[Tombutlercpa@cs.com]

With reguard to the stuck cluch, most of the cluch/brake solutions do sound dangereous. Is not cluch damaged anyway? Why not pull trans & rebuild cluch? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jennifer and Hugh Pite]

Hi Tom, it is very unlikely that the clutch will be damaged. The process of jacking up the rear of the car and driving the wheels is safe provided good blocking is used. For added safety remove the rear road wheels. The reason not to pull the trans and rebuild the clutch is that it is a relatively big job and totally unnecessary. To unstick a clutch should take a very short time (5 or 10 min.). Regards, Hugh

----- Original Message ----- From: Tombutlercpa@cs.com> > With reguard to the stuck cluch, most of the cluch/brake solutions do sound > dangereous. Is not cluch damaged anyway? Why not pull trans & rebuild cluch? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Chip Hellie]

Clive, I'm not missing the point, You have a stuck clutch clutch and I can unstick it for you with no hassel. First, start the engine and warm it up. next, shut it off, put the car in say 2nd { 1st is usually on the verge of exploding so avoid) Then, with the clutch pedal pushed down, turn key, pull starter and off you'll go. Your just being paranoid about thr starter, but if you seek comfort, have someone help push the car to start. I find if you hit the brakes, the car will just die, unless you have 3 legs and can push the clutch, add brakes and have gas on @ the same time. Just nail the throttle on and off rapidly and use all the might of your mighty 1250 to jerk the clutch loose. I forgot to mention it doesn't hurt to have a couple of Large Chicks in the back and a slight incline helps. All jokeing aside, It will work. I should know. I've done it more than once Chip Hellie 46 TC, 49TC, 3 MGA's, 2 MGB's, 2 Aston Martins, 2 Jag XK 120's, Jag E conv. and so on and so on......--- Clive Sherriff clive.sherriff@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> You're missing the point - the clutch is stuck! All > you get > from your idea is a bent starter motor shaft > > Clive > ============================ > > >>>Dennis, > Why bother the hassal with jacking up the car. Just > plop it in gear and start it. Then with the clutch > pedal down, nail the throttle on and off a few times > and it shall unstick! Make sure your passenger has > their hand over their Gin and tonic or they will be > wearing their drink! > Chip Hellie (the other Chip) >

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