decarbonaising engines

[Van Malder Harry]

Dear list members

I spoke to my father, the one who will help me to put the ta i'm going to buy in a good shape.He is a 80 years old mechanic,( but with the minds of a 20 years old) who used to maintain agricultural vehicles just passing the war, same decade as our tabc.

He remembers that at that time. for decarbonaising engines, they used a product( English or American) with the name Bardahl or bhardal: This was an additive to the oil, When used into the oil as a preservative for carbonaising, and to clean the cylinder head, just put it into the gasoline.

Of corse, when you add it to the oil, the oil becomes very quickly very black, and you have to change the oil after 600 miles.

He also asks me, before starting the future work of restoring, if the original TA engine ( wich is named cpjg or xpag, sorry when I am wrong)if there is no other name for it.

He claims that the engines he used to restore and renew( he don't know these abreviations) were the same as these in our mg's and they were made by Continental or Standard., or another one wich he doesn't remember.Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks a lot

HARRY

[sculptart@aol.com]

Harry, In my reading of the MG history, I have found the early engines for Morris Motors were supplied by Continental Motor Manufacturing Co. of Detroit Michigan. This was in 1914. Due to difficulities in World War One, and the disruption of shipping between the US and England, the final quanity of these engines were used in 1918. A similar engine, produced in England, was used from that time forward, based in part on the Continental engine design. Look in the special files on the MG-TABC site and you will find an excellent engine article by Neil Cairns. My best, Ben

[Ray]

Bardahl produced additives for fuel, oil, and coolant along with various cleaners. We used them in the 60-70's. Don't know if the company went under, or just got sold off. I used to drive a Corvette Gasser in the drags that was named "Mr. Bardahl" and was sponsored by the company. Best, Ray

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] harryvan@eresmas.com [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:24 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] decarbonaising engines Dear list members I spoke to my father, the one who will help me to put the ta i'm going to buy in a good shape.He is a 80 years old mechanic,( but with the minds of a 20 years old) who used to maintain agricultural vehicles just passing the war, same decade as our tabc. He remembers that at that time. for decarbonaising engines, they used a product( English or American) with the name Bardahl or bhardal: This was an additive to the oil, When used into the oil as a preservative for carbonaising, and to clean the cylinder head, just put it into the gasoline. Of corse, when you add it to the oil, the oil becomes very quickly very black, and you have to change the oil after 600 miles. He also asks me, before starting the future work of restoring, if the original TA engine ( wich is named cpjg or xpag, sorry when I am wrong)if there is no other name for it. He claims that the engines he used to restore and renew( he don't know these abreviations) were the same as these in our mg's and they were made by Continental or Standard., or another one wich he doesn't remember.Can anyone confirm this? Thanks a lot HARRY Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[Want1937hd@aol.com]

"Miss Bardahl" was a a racing Hydroplane. Non EC4856 << Bardahl produced additives for fuel, oil, and coolant along with various cleaners. We used them in the 60-70's. Don't know if the company went under, or just got sold off. I used to drive a Corvette Gasser in the drags that was named "Mr. Bardahl" and was sponsored by the company. Best, Ray >>

[Want1937hd@aol.com]

Screwed up the last sign off, sorry. Bob TC4956 >

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[Want1937hd@aol.com]

Ray, What did the Corvette turn? The "U.S.Mule II" 1952 MG-TD with a blown 392 Hemi turned low 10's. After my TC is finished I'll get back on that restoration. Bob TC4956

[Ray]

It's been a long time guys! I think we were in the mid to high 10's..... My Tiger turns a 12 flat with a very tractable 302 and street tires now! Remember when the 8's low 7's were top fuel territory?? Best, Ray

----- Original Message ----- From: Want1937hd@aol.com> To: spook01@home.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; harryvan@eresmas.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] decarbonaising engines > Ray, What did the Corvette turn? The "U.S.Mule II" 1952 MG-TD with a blown > 392 Hemi turned low 10's. After my TC is finished I'll get back on that > restoration. Bob TC4956 > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Ray]

Mr. Bardahl was a corvette! Black and green/yellow! Best, Ray

----- Original Message ----- From: Want1937hd@aol.com> To: Want1937hd@aol.com>; spook01@home.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; harryvan@eresmas.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] decarbonaising engines > Screwed up the last sign off, sorry. Bob TC4956 > > "Miss Bardahl" was a a racing Hydroplane. Non EC4856 > > cleaners. We used them in the 60-70's. Don't know if the company went > under, or just got sold off. > I used to drive a Corvette Gasser in the drags that was named "Mr. Bardahl" > and was sponsored by the company. > Best, > Ray >> > > >> >

[Robert Kampas]

Ollie Bardahl was a legendary figure in the sport of unlimited hydroplane racing in the days when these boats were powered by piston driven aircraft engines like the ones used in P51 fighters and others. His son and son in law I believe were killed driving unlimited boats on the same day on Lake Washington (Seattle area) after which he stopped sponsoring these boats. His company is located in Ballard just outside Seattle and is know as the Bardahl Manufacturing Company. The original large wooden "Bardahl" sign is still to be seen on the old building. They apparently still produce a line of products one of which is called "Motor Flush". Don't touch the stuff myself - . Chech out the web site www.bardahl.com . Regards, Bob Kampas

[quote] -----Original Message----- [b]From:[/b] Ray [mailto:spook01@home.com] [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:08 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com; Van Malder Harry [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] decarbonaising engines Bardahl produced additives for fuel, oil, and coolant along with various cleaners. We used them in the 60-70's. Don't know if the company went under, or just got sold off. I used to drive a Corvette Gasser in the drags that was named "Mr. Bardahl" and was sponsored by the company. Best, Ray ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] harryvan@eresmas.com [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:24 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] decarbonaising engines Dear list members I spoke to my father, the one who will help me to put the ta i'm going to buy in a good shape.He is a 80 years old mechanic,( but with the minds of a 20 years old) who used to maintain agricultural vehicles just passing the war, same decade as our tabc. He remembers that at that time. for decarbonaising engines, they used a product( English or American) with the name Bardahl or bhardal: This was an additive to the oil, When used into the oil as a preservative for carbonaising, and to clean the cylinder head, just put it into the gasoline. Of corse, when you add it to the oil, the oil becomes very quickly very black, and you have to change the oil after 600 miles. He also asks me, before starting the future work of restoring, if the original TA engine ( wich is named cpjg or xpag, sorry when I am wrong)if there is no other name for it. He claims that the engines he used to restore and renew( he don't know these abreviations) were the same as these in our mg's and they were made by Continental or Standard., or another one wich he doesn't remember.Can anyone confirm this? Thanks a lot HARRY Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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[Want1937hd@aol.com]

Bob, Thank you for sharing that information. This is one of the great things about being "on line" you get to pick up a lot of info on different things you have an intrest in. Bob TC 4956 www.bardahl.com . Regards, Bob Kampas >>