TC steering

[ROSS TAYLOR]

Installl the Datsun box You will never go back

----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Porter Sent: Wednesday, 7 May 2003 9:01 AM To: joecurto@aol.com Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TC Steering Joe: The Red Car is available when ever you want it. I'll be at the following shows, British Cars by the Sea, The British Are Coming and the Jag show. Or come on out to the house; we can go to Canterbury Ales for an Old Speckled Hen. Ken TC 4147 joecurto@aol.com wrote: > I have just got into my shop TC 6773 (originally owned by Vaughn >Monroe the singer) which is owned by a guy local for 22 years it has some >sort of Datsun type steering box in it. I have never driven a TC with such >light steering, it feels like a TD that you have partially jacked up off the >ground. The customer is an older fellow and does not remember ever doing >anything with the box so I can only assume that it was done by a previous >owner. the installation has a casting by the chassis to space and mount the >box, the box itself has an adjuster in an appendage on the main body. > > I am not really interested in what this is but if the currant Datsun >box works this well than I am very impressed. Next time I see a TC with the >conversion I am going to ask the owner for a spin and compare notes (Hi Ken >Porter) > >Joe Curto > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ccc_stl]

I'm desperatly in need for an expert on the MG TC steering system. The parts I'm told that I need (the worm drive at the end of the shaft and perhaps the box itself) are no longer available. Is there any service that can rebuild these parts, or does anybody know of these parts for sale in the US? Also, does anybody know of a mechanic that is familiar with the MG TC that practices in the Los Angeles, CA area? Thank you, lapry@aol.com

[Peter Roberts]

Why don't you give us some more information. First, who are you and where are you located. What year TC? Why do you believe you need a new worm, and why do you believe you need a new box? Any special reason you need a mechanic? _Peter in Connecticut TC 0604

----- Original Message ----- From: "ccc_stl" LAPRY@aol.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] TC STEERING > I'm desperatly in need for an expert on the MG TC steering system. The > parts I'm told that I need (the worm drive at the end of the shaft and > perhaps the box itself) are no longer available. Is there any service > that can rebuild these parts, or does anybody know of these parts for > sale in the US? Also, does anybody know of a mechanic that is familiar > with the MG TC that practices in the Los Angeles, CA area? > > Thank you, > > lapry@aol.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Peter Roberts]

Hi David! We all do appreciate your "challenge" and you will find all sorts of help here. One piece of short hand used often is "PO", usually in a pejorative sense, as it refers to the atrocities committed by Prior Owners. As in your case, the welding of the sector peg into the shaft. What seems to be the specific problem with the sector shaft? Is it the peg itself being badly worn? Or is the shaft compromised in some way? Since Moss West Coast is in your territory, have you tried giving them a call? Many times they will have something that they have not listed in the catalog. _Peter

----- Original Message ----- From: "ccc_stl" LAPRY@aol.com> To: "Peter Roberts" mgtc@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: Re: TC STEERING > --- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Roberts" wrote: >> Why don't you give us some more information. First, who are you > and where >> are you located. What year TC? >> >> Why do you believe you need a new worm, and why do you believe you > need a >> new box? >> >> Any special reason you need a mechanic? >> >> _Peter in Connecticut >> TC 0604 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ccc_stl" >> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:28 PM >> Subject: [mg-tabc] TC STEERING >> >> >> > I'm desperatly in need for an expert on the MG TC steering > system. The >> > parts I'm told that I need (the worm drive at the end of the > shaft and >> > perhaps the box itself) are no longer available. Is there any > service >> > that can rebuild these parts, or does anybody know of these parts > for >> > sale in the US? Also, does anybody know of a mechanic that is > familiar >> > with the MG TC that practices in the Los Angeles, CA area? >> > >> > Thank you, >> > >> > lapry@a... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >My name is David McCanne and I live in Los Angeles, California. My > 1949 MG TC was restored years ago but I am now having steering > problems. I don't want to go the "Datsun" route because I would like > to keep the car as originaly equipt as possible. An update since I > posted my last message: The fellow working on the car now informs me > that it isn't the worm nor the steering box after all - it is the > sector shaft (Moss part #260-070). The peg (Moss part #260-080) in > this case cannot be removed because somebody welded it to the sector > shaft arm! So, the entire shaft, I'm told, has to be replaced. I'm > having trouble finding the part in time for the GOF West that is > going to take place in Buellton July 11 thru 15. Any help in finding > and purchasing this part or any information you may be able to offer > will be greatly appreciated. Being "mechanically challanged" I need a > mechanic that really knows the car. > > Thank you for any help, > > David McCanne > Los Angeles, CA > lapry@aol.com > > > > >

[mark heathman]

I have apart a TC steering box. The shaft that carries the worm and steering wheel looks different than what I remember. Question; are the splines that the steering wheel goes on part of the shaft or are the slines on a piece that is then attached to the shaft. I have it in my mind that the (splines) are cut on the shaft and it then is necked down to the worm size. The one in my hand has the splines cut on to a separate piece that is then slid over the shaft and welded in place. Which is correct? MARK TC 5156 Iowa

[Bob Grunau]

Mark, The TC steering shaft is a solid rod, about 5/8" diameter. The worm is splined on the lower end of the rod. The steering wheel end is a larger diameter sleeve, about 7/8" diameter with the splines for the steering wheel cut into the sleeve. The sleeve is slipped over the 5/8" rod and appears to be plug welded to the 5/8" rod. TA arrangement is similar except there are no splines on the top end as the TA wheel is not splined. It appears that the "one in your hand" is original TC type. Bob Grunau -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mark heathman Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 3:23 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] TC Steering I have apart a TC steering box. The shaft that carries the worm and steering wheel looks different than what I remember. Question; are the splines that the steering wheel goes on part of the shaft or are the slines on a piece that is then attached to the shaft. I have it in my mind that the (splines) are cut on the shaft and it then is necked down to the worm size. The one in my hand has the splines cut on to a separate piece that is then slid over the shaft and welded in place. Which is correct? MARK TC 5156 Iowa Yahoo! Groups Links

[Roger Furneaux]

hi Mark - the separate splined section is original! The shaft is quite long and nobody would waste steel "necking" it down, apart from the problems of machining a long flexible shaft. It should not be welded on, only pinned (originally a taper pin, now we would use a roll-pin). I have these splined sections in stock, if you or anybody else needs one. I have them made here in the English West-country for Dieter Wagner's VW conversions. Only 30/$55, please contact me off-list. ocTagonally TCRoger Mark Heathman asked:

>I have apart a TC steering box. The shaft that carries the worm and steering >wheel looks different than what I remember. Question; are the splines that >the steering wheel goes on part of the shaft or are the slines on a piece >that is then attached to the shaft. I have it in my mind that the (splines) >are cut on the shaft and it then is necked down to the worm size. The one in >my hand has the splines cut on to a separate piece that is then slid over >the shaft and welded in place. Which is correct?

[BUD SILVERS]

Hello all; Well I just passed the Anne Silvers seal of approval in the steering department. We went for a bit of a ride and did a steady 55 MPH on a fair highway. I actually hit 70 once while alone in the car and 65 once when Anne was with me. The steering is very sensitive, which I believe must be the TC nature. That I can live with. What I have been hoping for is to be able to drive a steady 55 and be comfortable. I should point out that my rear shocks are not working at all and the front ones are off the car! I believe the steering will be even better when the shocks are done. They should help to stabilize it a bit. Now here is the problem. As I told all yesterday I had set my toe in at inch and the increased the toe in by one full turn of the Tie Rod. While it did drive nicer, I discovered that I had of an inch toe in. I believe that is way too much. I turned the tie rod back to its original position and rechecked the toe in. It was again at inch. I then turned it out 1/8 of a turn and rechecked the toe in. It is now set at 3/8 inch toe in. Apparently 1 full turn on the tie rod equals approximately inch of toe in. It has started raining and Anne is not home for a test drive anyway. If I get a change before I head out on the road I will do a test drive with her in the car and see how the new setting works. All for now. Bud Silvers TC 8192 Low n slo in the Black Forest of Colorado [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com]

Dear Barney: It is more complicated. If you note the emails a chap called Bill Bollendock has the plans. Suggest you contact him. I do have "newly machined splines" to attach to the steering wheel shaft, if you need them. You have to take out the old and replace every thing with new steel material You set aside and save the old system in case someone wants to return to the old Bishop cam steering box. It would behoove you to repair the old the steering box, fix up the front end, but I did not have any luck doing that. Actually the old Bettle box is quite similar to the Bishop box.but much better engineered. You can find where to buy them in aircooled type VW, magazines On cursory look it seems to be about the same. My good friend Scott who made mine and others ,just passed away at the age of 50 from medical complications of a brain operation. I will miss him for the rest of my life.RIP Tally Ho! Thom Collins . **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[SHERWOOD L PARKER]

Thom, I am so sorry. I did not that your friend Scott passed away. I know that the 2 of you were comrades. Sincerely, Sherwood Dear Barney: It is more complicated. If you note the emails a chap called Bill Bollendock has the plans. Suggest you contact him. I do have "newly machined splines" to attach to the steering wheel shaft, if you need them. You have to take out the old and replace every thing with new steel material You set aside and save the old system in case someone wants to return to the old Bishop cam steering box. It would behoove you to repair the old the steering box, fix up the front end, but I did not have any luck doing that. Actually the old Bettle box is quite similar to the Bishop box.but much better engineered. You can find where to buy them in aircooled type VW, magazines On cursory look it seems to be about the same. My good friend Scott who made mine and others ,just passed away at the age of 50 from medical complications of a brain operation. I will miss him for the rest of my life.RIP Tally Ho! Thom Collins . **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. ([url=http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025> 48) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]