Quiet List

[C. Knight]

I sent this one a month ago but as I got no response and my ISP was having a few problems at the time I suspect it didn't get through. If it is second posting I apologize. ;-) If anyone else has bothered keeping fuel consumption records I'd appreciate your views.>> Regards Cliff Note: 1 US gallon = 0.832674 UK gallons

[brian bax]

Hello Cliff, My TC is similar spec. to yours and fuel consumption is much better. Before you get the spanners out, are you sure that the speedo is calibrated accurately? Brian Bax TC3550> -----Original Message-----

> From: cliffknight@ic24.net (C. Knight) > Sent: Thu May 17 20:17:08 BST 2001 > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com (mg-tabc list) > Subject: [mg-tabc] Quiet List > > I sent this one a month ago but as I got no response and my ISP was > having a few problems at the time I suspect it didn't get through. If it > is second posting I apologize. > > to > almost empty the TA fuel tank again. > What average fuel consumption do octabods get from standard TCs? > I've kept a spreadsheet since I rebuilt Glenys' XPAG engined TA. For > the first 2000 miles the consumption rose from 19 miles per UK gallon > whilst running in to a miserable 23.9 miles per UK gallon. Almost > exactly a year ago I fitted weaker EU needles and have now done another > 2000 miles of mixed motoring. The average consumption has risen to 26.5 > miles per UK gallon and stayed fairly consistent throughout the year. Is > this the best I can expect? The engine is standard tune apart from a > slightly increased compression ratio. Axle ratio is as TC. Carbs, air > filter/silencer and manifolds are all standard TC parts. Ignition timing > and carb tuning should be "spot on" as I dun 'em meeself > If anyone else has bothered keeping fuel consumption records I'd > appreciate your views.>> > Regards > Cliff > Note: 1 US gallon = 0.832674 UK gallons > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Paul Camp]

Hi Cliff My TC is to standard spec but with a Shorrock supercharger fitted at 2-5Ibs boost, I have raised the axle ratio to 3.9 . I achieve 22-23 mpg (ukGalls) on runs around town (ie 15-20mile runs in traffic) but on longer mixed runs I am achieving 28-30 mpg.Incidentally I use UK premium unleaded fuel with hardened head . Trust this helps Regards Paul TC 3348

----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Knight" cliffknight@ic24.net> To: "mg-tabc list" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Quiet List > I sent this one a month ago but as I got no response and my ISP was > havinga few problems at the time I suspect it didn't get through. If it > is second posting I apologize. > > to > almost empty the TA fuel tank again. > What average fuel consumption do octabods get from standard TCs? > I've kept a spreadsheet since I rebuilt Glenys' XPAG engined TA. For > the first 2000 miles the consumption rose from 19 miles per UK gallon > whilst running in to a miserable 23.9 miles per UK gallon. Almost > exactly a year ago I fitted weaker EU needles and have now done another > 2000 miles of mixed motoring. The average consumption has risen to 26.5 > miles per UK gallon and stayed fairly consistent throughout the year. Is > this the best I can expect? The engine is standard tune apart from a > slightly increased compression ratio. Axle ratio is as TC. Carbs, air > filter/silencer and manifolds are all standard TC parts. Ignition timing > and carb tuning should be "spot on" as I dun 'em meeself > If anyone else has bothered keeping fuel consumption records I'd > appreciate your views.>> > Regards > Cliff > Note: 1 US gallon = 0.832674 UK gallons > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Roger Muir]

Well as it's quiet I have some news of my own. Some 4 years ago I bought my 1937 TA 'DOX 4' After completing! (do we ever complete??) the rebuild on it, started by its former owner, the car was on the road for its first run out on New Years Day 2000, Millenium Day!. We went on 'The Chilly Willy Run', well its cold over here in the UK at new year. Shortly after that after giving my son a lift to a friends house and bereaking a half shaft on the way back, another rebuild of rear axle started. I hadn't rebuilt first time. Roger Furneaux another lister helping me with the diff. As I hadn't done the engine myself either I looked at that as well. It all came out, in the end the engine a proper MPJG, new pistons, crank built up with weld and reground to original journal dimensions, crack tested and balanced with the clutch, new white metal bearings, THE LOT!. Consequently not a lot got done last year run wise.. This year my wife, Lynda, and I were keen to do the MGCC Midland Centre Welshe Rally. Her Father had done the Welshe Rallye in 1951 when the same centre first started running them after WW2. Success, the car was ready and on May 12th we started from MG Rovers car plant at Longbridge just outside Birmingham UK. I don't know how but we ended up with Number 1 on our rally plaque, plaques sponsored by MG Rover Cars. Also on the run were two other TA's. The three cars were the oldest on the rally, mine just pipped the other two for oldest car. One of the other TA's on the rally is owned by Lech Zakrewski, another lister, who this year is now the Chairman of the MGCC Midland Centre. His TA is immaculate and very original in specification. He's also got in his MPJG engine,something I am jealous of, in the shape of an original counterbalanced laystall crankshaft. Now when I win the lottery I might get one made!!. The rally started and continued throughout the weeekend in absolutely glorious weather. My inlaws were there to see us off. Incidentally they went on their Honeymoon in 1950 in their TA , they toured France , Switzerland and Italy. Spent all their money and the rest of their family thought they were mad!! 160 miles later by way of (sorry to those of you who don't know the areas) Bromsgrove, Droitwich, Ombersley, Great Witley, Martley (close to Shelsley Walsh Hillclimb 100 years old this year) close to Bromyard, Bosbury,Ledbury, Much Marcle (Great Cider here),Ross on Wye,Speech House Hotel in the Forest of Dean for Lunch and then out via Monmouth, the back road to Abergavenny,past the Sugarloaf Mountain to Crickhowell,long climb to Talgarth,then the final run in along loop round to the Metropole Hotel in Llandrindod Wells. Couple of pints went down really quickly on arrival!! (Lager that is not oil!!) The TA had run a dream, by lunchtime we had gone further in one run than we had ever done before. Little or no oil used only problem is a minor drip of water from the water pump. Party in the evening, met someone I hadn't seen in 28 years. The following morning my wife and I were up early, had breakfast as soon as we could and decided to go up into the Elan Valley to see the reservoirs where Birmingham's (UK) water comes from. Weather again absolutely perfect, very few people around,photos should be great!. Roads to Rhayader from Llandrindod Wells perfect! well surfaced, EMPTY!! I have have to say some of the best driving we have ever had in the TA. Back to Builth Wells for a Treasure Hunt, bit late really as we get couldn't get our 'eye' in. Back to the hotel for lunch and 'Prize's' As we headed home just outside Bromyard the sky darkened. "Shall we put the hood up" my wife said. "Not yet I replied" Within a few minutes a quick blast of rain. We shot into the nearest layby, rapidly followed by an MGF. Just got the hood up and the heavens opened. The rain did nothing to detract from a terrific weekend. The Rally was extemely well organised and nothing appeared to go wrong. I am sure there was the odd problem but the sign of any well organised event is when you don't see the problems!! For those of you who know him, Rick Howson and everyone who helped him (from the quarry!) deserve a great deal of thanks and praise, especially from Lynda and I on our first (of many we hope) Welshe Rallyes'. Happy MG'ing Roger Muir Bromsgrove UK

[Leclerc, Lawrence]

Roger, that was positively refreshing. Tally Ho -----Original Message----- From: Roger Muir [mailto:rogermuir@compuserve.com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:39 AM To: MG Groups Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Quiet List Well as it's quiet I have some news of my own. Some 4 years ago I bought my 1937 TA 'DOX 4' After completing! (do we ever complete??) the rebuild on it, started by its former owner, the car was on the road for its first run out on New Years Day 2000, Millenium Day!. We went on 'The Chilly Willy Run', well its cold over here in the UK at new year. Shortly after that after giving my son a lift to a friends house and bereaking a half shaft on the way back, another rebuild of rear axle Consequently not a lot got done last year run wise.. This year my wife, Lynda, and I were keen to do the MGCC Midland counterbalanced laystall crankshaft. Now when I win the lottery I might get one made!!. Happy MG'ing Roger Muir Bromsgrove UK Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Roger Muir]

JACK WROTE:- From: INTERNET:Jackarch2@aol.com, INTERNET:Jackarch2@aol.com To: , rogermuir Date: Fri, May 18, 2001 3:23:17 pm RE: Re: [mg-tabc] Quiet List Roger, You Brits are so blasted articulate, for which we in the Colonies are so grateful..... Old Arch (Jack Archibald TC5050) To which I reply:- Well we do jolly well try 'old boy'! Regards Roger

[Emgeeguy@aol.com]

In a message dated 5/18/01 8:40:58 AM Central Daylight Time, rogermuir@compuserve.com writes:

This year my wife, Lynda, and I were keen to do the MGCC Midland Centre Welshe Rally.

Now that is what these cars are for. I'm jealous! Sounds like too much fun!! Larry

[Jetten]

Cliff, I get also 26 miles per UK Gallon and check that continuously. Judging by the colour of the plugs I have the impression that I could weaken the mixture a little more. However I know that if I do so cold start becomes more difficult. Also when I weaken the mixture it requires quite a long period in colder weather before the engine will idle without the choke ( stalling at traffic lights in cold weather etc.). Best regards, Wim Jetten

----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Knight" cliffknight@ic24.net> To: "mg-tabc list" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Quiet List > I sent this one a month ago but as I got no response and my ISP was > having a few problems at the time I suspect it didn't get through. If it > is second posting I apologize. > > to > almost empty the TA fuel tank again. > What average fuel consumption do octabods get from standard TCs? > I've kept a spreadsheet since I rebuilt Glenys' XPAG engined TA. For > the first 2000 miles the consumption rose from 19 miles per UK gallon > whilst running in to a miserable 23.9 miles per UK gallon. Almost > exactly a year ago I fitted weaker EU needles and have now done another > 2000 miles of mixed motoring. The average consumption has risen to 26.5 > miles per UK gallon and stayed fairly consistent throughout the year. Is > this the best I can expect? The engine is standard tune apart from a > slightly increased compression ratio. Axle ratio is as TC. Carbs, air > filter/silencer and manifolds are all standard TC parts. Ignition timing > and carb tuning should be "spot on" as I dun 'em meeself > If anyone else has bothered keeping fuel consumption records I'd > appreciate your views.>> > Regards > Cliff > Note: 1 US gallon = 0.832674 UK gallons > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Ben Cordsen]

Gosh, With everyone in the western US off to the GOF in Monterrey, the list is sure quiet! Or is it that Yahoo is having their way with me again???Ben Ben Cordsen _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_072008 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]