gas, tires and oil (and we aren't talking about a pontiac)

[Eddie]

Chris, How do you like the TKC80s on road? Noisy but not intrusively so? Good grip? Wear? I have a FZ8 and am about to do something stupid and fit a set of TKC80s on it for fun. Unless I can be talked out of it, of course. Then I'll put on some boring Pirelli Angels. -eddie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:22 PM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Tire Pressure Science for the KLR > I've been using the 10% rule for tire pressure increase with my TKC-80's. > It's worked well. Fully loaded, at highway speeds, I use 28psi front, > 37psi > rear. I lower that for off-highway and off-pavement. Never below 15/15, > more often 20/25 is the minimum. > > Regards, > Chris >

[RobertWichert]

I use TKC-80s also. I do not inflate them as much as Chris. 22-24 psi is more typical for me, on road. 20 psi off road. I like them and I find that unless I am cornering in oil, they hold on the street very well. Off road, my limited skill set makes me very cautious, but they seem to be able to hang with the rest of the group, even if I can't. They do not seem to pack with mud too bad and get me slowly through whatever I'm courageous enough to try. Or fail. Depending. My failures have never been the tire's fault. I have seen others on the same terrain get stuck pretty bad on less aggressive rubber (Versys get pushed out, for instance). Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 11/19/2012 11:33 AM, eddie wrote: > > Chris, > > How do you like the TKC80s on road? Noisy but not intrusively so? > Good grip? Wear? > I have a FZ8 and am about to do something stupid and fit a set of TKC80s > on it for fun. Unless I can be talked out of it, of course. Then I'll > put on > some boring Pirelli Angels. > > -eddie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:22 PM > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Tire Pressure Science for the KLR > > > I've been using the 10% rule for tire pressure increase with my > TKC-80's. > > It's worked well. Fully loaded, at highway speeds, I use 28psi front, > > 37psi > > rear. I lower that for off-highway and off-pavement. Never below 15/15, > > more often 20/25 is the minimum. > > > > Regards, > > Chris > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

Riding level of skills. I was on Johns KLR in death valley, riding in/on areas, WAY above anything I had ever done or ever imagened, I was sold. TKC-80"S area's, I Wasn't sure weither to be scared, or excited, or what? but It was.............................. A BREATH TAKING BLAST!!!!!! (PS. ALL THE ABOVE!) Ya gotta do it.

--- On Mon, 11/19/12, RobertWichert wrote: From: RobertWichert Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] TKC80 question To: "eddie" Cc: "KLR650 list" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 7:54 PM I use TKC-80s also. I do not inflate them as much as Chris. 22-24 psi is more typical for me, on road. 20 psi off road. I like them and I find that unless I am cornering in oil, they hold on the street very well. Off road, my limited skill set makes me very cautious, but they seem to be able to hang with the rest of the group, even if I can't. They do not seem to pack with mud too bad and get me slowly through whatever I'm courageous enough to try. Or fail. Depending. My failures have never been the tire's fault. I have seen others on the same terrain get stuck pretty bad on less aggressive rubber (Versys get pushed out, for instance). Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 11/19/2012 11:33 AM, eddie wrote: > > Chris, > > How do you like the TKC80s on road? Noisy but not intrusively so? > Good grip? Wear? > I have a FZ8 and am about to do something stupid and fit a set of TKC80s > on it for fun. Unless I can be talked out of it, of course. Then I'll > put on > some boring Pirelli Angels. > > -eddie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:22 PM > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Tire Pressure Science for the KLR > > > I've been using the 10% rule for tire pressure increase with my > TKC-80's. > > It's worked well. Fully loaded, at highway speeds, I use 28psi front, > > 37psi > > rear. I lower that for off-highway and off-pavement. Never below 15/15, > > more often 20/25 is the minimum. > > > > Regards, > > Chris > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Skypilot]

Well there you have it, a tire thread with multiple replies. Winter is oficially upon us. The oil thread should be arriving any day now

> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] TKC80 question > Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 7:54 PM > > I use TKC-80s also. I do not inflate them as much as Chris. 22-24 psi is more typical for me, on road. 20 psi off road.

[mark ward]

SLICK.....real ...SLICK, you just had to,..... SLIP, an oil thread in there didn't you. ( LOL)

--- On Tue, 11/20/12, Skypilot wrote: From: Skypilot Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: TKC80 question To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 20, 2012, 12:34 PM Well there you have it, a tire thread with multiple replies. Winter is oficially upon us. The oil thread should be arriving any day now > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] TKC80 question > Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 7:54 PM > > I use TKC-80s also. I do not inflate them as much as Chris. 22-24 psi is more typical for me, on road. 20 psi off road. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Eckert, Christopher (CTO Service Delivery]

Hey, it was coming anyways, you know it was! From: mark ward [mailto:nomad59@...] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:55 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; Eckert, Christopher (CTO Service Delivery) Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: TKC80 question SLICK.....real ...SLICK, you just had to,..... SLIP, an oil thread in there didn't you. ( LOL) ************************************************************ This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. ************************************************************

[Chris]

I like the TKC80s a lot. Fantastic street grip, very good off-pavement, except mud. Pretty slippery in mud. Great on gravel. On pavement I've been surprised how far I get leaned over even when not trying (definitely NOT trying to get lean angle on street knobbies!). They don't last real long compared to a street tire, of course. I get something like 3-4,000 mi. from the rear and 5-6,000 from the front. I'd like to try a more dual-sport tire, but with good pavement grip and great off-pavement grip I keep coming back to TKC80s. YMMV, as they say, Chris

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM, eddie wrote: > ** > > > Chris, > > How do you like the TKC80s on road? Noisy but not intrusively so? > Good grip? Wear? > I have a FZ8 and am about to do something stupid and fit a set of TKC80s > on it for fun. Unless I can be talked out of it, of course. Then I'll put > on > some boring Pirelli Angels. > > -eddie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:22 PM > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Tire Pressure Science for the KLR > > > I've been using the 10% rule for tire pressure increase with my TKC-80's. > > It's worked well. Fully loaded, at highway speeds, I use 28psi front, > > 37psi > > rear. I lower that for off-highway and off-pavement. Never below 15/15, > > more often 20/25 is the minimum. > > > > Regards, > > Chris > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Mike Frey]

Easy.... Mobil 1 - or - Shell Rotella T - if you don't want to spend the money for synthetic. There is no better oil at a lower price. Let the debate begin! - Mike

On 11/20/2012 7:34 AM, Skypilot wrote: > > Well there you have it, a tire thread with multiple replies. Winter is > oficially upon us. The oil thread should be arriving any day now > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] TKC80 question > > Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 7:54 PM > > > > I use TKC-80s also. I do not inflate them as much as Chris. 22-24 > psi is more typical for me, on road. 20 psi off road. > >

[RobertWichert]

I have ridden lots of mud on TKC-80 tires and yes, they slip around, but what doesn't? I was on a very muddy trip earlier this year and a guy on a Versys with what looked like Continental Escapes had to literally be pushed up a hill that I rode up. I will admit that slippery clay mud scares me a lot and I slow down. I've never been stuck on them though, through mud, leaves, sand (not deep sand), pine needles, and the assorted rocks and gravel and dirt. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 11/20/2012 12:08 PM, Chris wrote: > I like the TKC80s a lot. Fantastic street grip, very good off-pavement, > except mud. Pretty slippery in mud. Great on gravel. On pavement I've been > surprised how far I get leaned over even when not trying (definitely NOT > trying to get lean angle on street knobbies!). > > They don't last real long compared to a street tire, of course. I get > something like 3-4,000 mi. from the rear and 5-6,000 from the front. I'd > like to try a more dual-sport tire, but with good pavement grip and great > off-pavement grip I keep coming back to TKC80s. > > YMMV, as they say, > Chris > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM, eddie wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Chris, >> >> How do you like the TKC80s on road? Noisy but not intrusively so? >> Good grip? Wear? >> I have a FZ8 and am about to do something stupid and fit a set of TKC80s >> on it for fun. Unless I can be talked out of it, of course. Then I'll put >> on >> some boring Pirelli Angels. >> >> -eddie >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris" >> Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:22 PM >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Tire Pressure Science for the KLR >> >>> I've been using the 10% rule for tire pressure increase with my TKC-80's. >>> It's worked well. Fully loaded, at highway speeds, I use 28psi front, >>> 37psi >>> rear. I lower that for off-highway and off-pavement. Never below 15/15, >>> more often 20/25 is the minimum. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chris >>> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Eddie]

Oh please, an oil thread would be so blase, however, a schism about how to clean/lube a chain............ well now you have a true re-thread. Oil vs. WD-10, that should carry us well into the new year. Eddie (a proponent of WD-40 to clean, then oil the chain)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Skypilot" wrote: > > Well there you have it, a tire thread with multiple replies. Winter is oficially upon us. The oil thread should be arriving any day now > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] TKC80 question > > Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 7:54 PM > > > > I use TKC-80s also. I do not inflate them as much as Chris. 22-24 psi is more typical for me, on road. 20 psi off road. >