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[Eric L. Green]

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Mark Lewis wrote:

> Anything other than WD-40 is a waste of money. It works perfectly > and the money you save will buy lots of new chains and sprokets.

WD-40 isn't actually a lubricant. It is a rust preventer (thus the "WD" part, which stands for "Water Displacement"). The actual lubricant is located within the chain, held in by the O-rings. That said, WD-40 should work fine at keeping the chain clean and rust-free. As long as the O-rings remain intact, the lube inside them will remain intact. But 80/90weight gear oil is something safer to use, in that if an O-ring DOES go bad, the 80/90 weight will keep the link lubed, at the expense of being a bit messier. WD-40 won't do that, since it's not a lubricant. _E

[Devon]

I've heard people complain about triflo and clinging dirt. WD40 works great for an o-ring chain. Devon clearprop5@... wrote:

>I just can't stand the flinging chain lube. I like a clean >chain/bike. What's the thought on WD40 or Triflo? Any other >suggestions? >Mike > > > >

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

My latest kick is PB Blaster Garage Door Lube. It's light like WD40, but defines itself as a 'lube'. Mark http://www.reelrider.com At 2:19 PM -0400 4/29/04, Devon wrote:

>I've heard people complain about triflo and clinging dirt. WD40 works >great for an o-ring chain. > > >Devon > >clearprop5@... wrote: > >>I just can't stand the flinging chain lube. I like a clean >>chain/bike. What's the thought on WD40 or Triflo? Any other >>suggestions? >>Mike

[kusst]

I have established a regimen which works well. Lube with chain lube ( designed to not fling off, pj1, Maxima chain wax, currently using a can of Amsoil HD metal lube.) After a 4 - 5 coatings put on at the end of rides, the chain begins to be collecting a crust. I then switch to a blasting of WD-40. (lubes and acts like a solvent as well) Blast it long and hard until it the grime running off. In this way it has been cleaned as well as lubed. It will take a number of these blastings (plan on going through a can of wd-40 quite quickly, say 6 blastings) I use the following technique for application. 1. let bike lean on stand idling on a blacktop area you don't care if it get's dirty. (public street, Super america side lot, ex girlfriends fresh slab of concrete.) 2. put spray can in right hand 3. grab / pull in clutch 4. lean bike on stand to the left, let rear wheel come off ground, can stabilize with top of head. 5. with spray can in right hand click shift into first with bottom of can 6. spray chain like crazy, perhaps a minute or more, note slime run-off if applying wd-40. keep fingers and hands away. If your hair is longer than the Allman brothers, wear it in a pony tail. 7. carefully allow bike rear tire to contact ground. hold on as spinning wheel will jek a bit. Usually not problem unless you used 4th gear instead of first. 8. Find neutral 9. shut off bike, be aware of ongoing drips which may occur, use a drop cloth or piece of cardboard, or ex girlfriend's graduation picture or undergarments to catch grimey drips. end result is Chain stays lubed and gets blasted clean regularly. WD- 40 acts like a solvent in addition to lubricating. If you haven't tired this, you may be surpruzed how well wd-40 cuts the grime. However, I choose to not rely on it solely as a lube, and thus also alternate with real motorcycle lubes designed to not fling off. My helpful tip for today. Todd in MN A16 F7 Firecat keep the rubber side down bout 6 weeks til Enduraid 04

[Lee Dickinson]

> I've heard people complain about triflo and clinging dirt. WD40 works > great for an o-ring chain. > > > Devon

Agree w/WD40. I can't understand why people go to the extra expense of an o-ring chain and then treat it like it wasn't one. The outside of the chain does not need to be sloppy gooey - slinging junk all over the back end of the bike. And adding automatic lubers to automatically treat the o-ring chain like a non o-ring chain is even more difficult for me to understand. It is my belief that goo attracts grit and grit increases wear. With the internals of the o-ring chain properly lubricated for life, all that is needed is to clean and rust-proof the exterior and to keep the o-rings supple. WD40 works for both. Lee / Colbert, Ga

[new2klr]

I'm always torn by the fact that if the o-ring fails, dirt will be able to get in and get between the moving surfaces. Having the heavier oil on the chain attracts more dirt. So unless the oil is being constantly flushed from the bushings (and flung off all over your bike), does the heavier oil really do anything to prolong the life or increase safety? I'm obviously no expert, but it's been a nagging thought and one of the reasons I use WD-40 before every ride. Maybe somebody out there knows better? Eric in Philly --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green" wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Mark Lewis wrote: > > Anything other than WD-40 is a waste of money. It works

perfectly

> > and the money you save will buy lots of new chains and

sprokets.

> > WD-40 isn't actually a lubricant. It is a rust preventer (thus

the "WD"

> part, which stands for "Water Displacement"). The actual lubricant

is

> located within the chain, held in by the O-rings. > > That said, WD-40 should work fine at keeping the chain clean and > rust-free. As long as the O-rings remain intact, the lube inside

them will

> remain intact. But 80/90weight gear oil is something safer to use,

in that

> if an O-ring DOES go bad, the 80/90 weight will keep the link

lubed, at

> the expense of being a bit messier. WD-40 won't do that, since

it's not a

> lubricant. > > _E

[Eric L. Green]

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, new2klr wrote:

> I'm always torn by the fact that if the o-ring fails, dirt will be > able to get in and get between the moving surfaces. Having the > heavier oil on the chain attracts more dirt. So unless the oil is > being constantly flushed from the bushings (and flung off all over > your bike), does the heavier oil really do anything to prolong the > life or increase safety?

Interesting topic. I don't know. The only time I've ever damaged an o-ring was by getting a branch jammed into the chain while doing some twisty backwoods riding. My choice of lubricant was irrelevant at that point :-}. -E

[Eric L. Green]

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, kusst wrote:

> 1. let bike lean on stand idling on a blacktop area you don't care if > it get's dirty. (public street, Super america side lot, ex > girlfriends fresh slab of concrete.)

You might also try newspaper under the bike, which is a bit more environmentally friendly than letting all that oil run off into the local river or bay. Sending oily newspapers into the landfill chain is not the most environmentally correct thing to do, but it's better than killing fish with the stuff. -E

[Jim Hubbard]

I think my favorite has got to be PJ1 Blue label. It seems to strike a good balance between being too sticky and messy (like PJ1 Black) or too dry (like Maxima chain wax). Also, even after soaking the chain on all 4 sides with it, give it time to dry and there's little or no fling-off. I regularly clean my chain with kerosene, then hose it off with water, dry it thoroughly, and apply PJ1 Blue. If I'm riding dusty or muddy trails away from home, I'll hose the chain down with WD40 till I can get home and have time to clean it. Everybody has an opinion on chain maintenance, just like engine oil and tires. The correct answer is what works for you. Pull your front sprocket cover off. If there aren't any metal filings there, then you're probably doing it right. Jim Hubbard A17

> -----Original Message----- > From: clearprop5 [mailto:clearprop5@...] > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:16 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Chain lube > > > I just can't stand the flinging chain lube. I like a clean > chain/bike. What's the thought on WD40 or Triflo? Any other > suggestions? > Mike > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[The Mule]

I''ve heard George's back door lube is just a gimmick......still need Preparation H for the repercussions.

> My latest kick is PB Blaster Garage Door Lube. It's light like WD40, > but defines itself as a 'lube'. > > Mark > http://www.reelrider.com > > > At 2:19 PM -0400 4/29/04, Devon wrote: > >I've heard people complain about triflo and clinging dirt. WD40 works > >great for an o-ring chain. > > > > > >Devon > > > >clearprop5@... wrote: > > > >>I just can't stand the flinging chain lube. I like a clean > >>chain/bike. What's the thought on WD40 or Triflo? Any other > >>suggestions? > >>Mike