150 miles south-southeast of me is......................nklr-ish

[greg coyle]

for now those boots are only a pain... just wait till they're 10 or 15 or 30 years old like my 78 z1r... they are way past pain and damn near impossible to get them back in without having one pinched. can you send a pic of that tool you were describing? gregc

On 7/25/2012 3:26 AM, Mike Huber wrote: > > > > I came up with the perfect tool for removing those too....I had a set of > 12" long needle nose pliers with a 90* at the end and cut off about 3/4 > of an inch off the tips... > It works great and you won't break the nut trying to turn the carb in > the rubber boots....Remove 1 screw that holds the throttle cable bracket > and loosen the boot clamps .... > I also use a tool for removing radiator hoses to get the carb out and > back into the boots....It sure beats trying to work on it on the bike. > > Mike Huber > Carlsbad NM > > > > From: GMac999@... > > To: minoman59@... > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k > > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:39:44 -0500 > > > > And while pulling the carb, if you break the plastic nut holding the > > enricher valve off or strip the threads on it, Fred has those too. > > > > Greg McKinney > > Bartlett, TN > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > ] On > > Behalf Of Mike Huber > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:16 PM > > To: tamarack@... ; > dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k > > > > > > This is a no power over IDLE story.... > > > > Be thankfull you ride a KLR.....The other day a friend of mine asked > me to > > look at his sons Yamaha R6 crotch rocket ....It would start right up and > > idle but when you cracked the throttle open it would just idle ....We > > thought ,OK it's just a broken throttle cable....I spent the next 2 hours > > pulling off the bodywork to get to the aircleaner box under the gas > > tank.....I pulled the top of the airbox off that had a fuel line > attched to > > 4 Fuel injectors.....Then I had to remove another 8 screws to get the > lower > > half of the airbox off the throttlebody (TB) that had another 4 fuel > > ijectors in it...This is a 650 with 8 fuel injectors.....Now i can > see the > > throttle cables attached to the TB and they are working perfectly but > they > > still don't open the butterflys in the TB.....I got on the Bike Banit > > website and pulled up the parts breakdown and the cable operate an > > accelleration sensor which activates a servo motor to open the > > butterflys...Then their is another throttle position sensor on the end of > > the butterfly shaft that tell the computer what to do.....The damn > thing is > > drive by wire !!!! And what is at the beginning of most wires....DUH....A > > FUSE !!!! Sure enough....I checked the fuses and found a blown 7.5 > amp ETC > > fuse, as in Electronic Throttle Control.....I replaced the fuse and > put the > > airbox back together and BAM....It fired right up and revved like a > Bat out > > of Hell !!!! I spent the next 2 hours putting the bodywork back on .....I > > don't care if I ever work on another crotch rocket again.... > > > > So be thankfull you ride a KLR.....And do yourself a favor and pull > the carb > > off the bike to go through it...It's really not that hard !!!!! In fact I > > did mine last week and After tearing it completly down, cleaning it, > > replacing a bad air cutoff diaphram, shimming the needle, drilling the > > diaphram, adding an adjustable airscrew, and putting a kit in it > (THANX FRED > > !!!) it ran like a top....And it only took me 2 hours to do the whole > thing > > start to finish..... > > > > Mike Huber > > Carlsbad NM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > From: tamarack@... > > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:36:51 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am willing to bet he screwed something up... > > Talk to him for 2 min and you will wonder how he manages to open the > front > > door. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Craig Kahler > > > To: Jeff Khoury >; Ian > Francisco > > > Cc: DSN KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >; "tamarack@... > " > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:14 AM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k > > > > > > It sounds like the slide is not lifting. torn carb diafram or stuck > slide. > > The guy who rebuilt it may have screwed something up. > > Craig > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead > > Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > > Group Apps: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

[Bogdan Swider]

We here are in Tornado Alley and I know what storms can do. The house my wife grew up in was flattened in Wichita Falls TX by their last big tornado. They have had 3 hit there in my lifetime. I travel down to Galveston on occasion and that city seems to have a hurricane bulls eye on it. There's always something. Growing up in the middle of Chicago we didn't worry about natural disasters. OK .the city was shut down by snow once in a while but that was actually pleasant. Yes in the summer basements would sometimes flood an irritation but not cataclysmic. What concerned us was human caused problems; my mother and sister were both mugged. I was robbed at gun point in front of my house. The city has much improved in that regard in most but not all neighborhoods. Here in Colorado Springs we have no problems with earthquakes, hurricanes or tornados. But there sure are forest fires. This summer my domicile was not in danger but was full of smoke. One guy lost his entire stable of motorcycles along with everything else. Bogdan, who sometimes creates his own disasters [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

So, what was the problem? Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 7/25/2012 10:34 PM, greg coyle wrote: > for now those boots are only a pain... just wait till they're > 10 or 15 or 30 years old like my 78 z1r... they are way past pain and > damn near impossible to get them back in without having one pinched. can > you send a pic of that tool you were describing? > > gregc > > > On 7/25/2012 3:26 AM, Mike Huber wrote: >> >> >> I came up with the perfect tool for removing those too....I had a set of >> 12" long needle nose pliers with a 90* at the end and cut off about 3/4 >> of an inch off the tips... >> It works great and you won't break the nut trying to turn the carb in >> the rubber boots....Remove 1 screw that holds the throttle cable bracket >> and loosen the boot clamps .... >> I also use a tool for removing radiator hoses to get the carb out and >> back into the boots....It sure beats trying to work on it on the bike. >> >> Mike Huber >> Carlsbad NM >> >> >> > From: GMac999@... >> > To: minoman59@... >> > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k >> > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:39:44 -0500 >> > >> > And while pulling the carb, if you break the plastic nut holding the >> > enricher valve off or strip the threads on it, Fred has those too. >> > >> > Greg McKinney >> > Bartlett, TN >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> ] On >> > Behalf Of Mike Huber >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:16 PM >> > To: tamarack@... ; >> dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k >> > >> > >> > This is a no power over IDLE story.... >> > >> > Be thankfull you ride a KLR.....The other day a friend of mine asked >> me to >> > look at his sons Yamaha R6 crotch rocket ....It would start right up and >> > idle but when you cracked the throttle open it would just idle ....We >> > thought ,OK it's just a broken throttle cable....I spent the next 2 hours >> > pulling off the bodywork to get to the aircleaner box under the gas >> > tank.....I pulled the top of the airbox off that had a fuel line >> attched to >> > 4 Fuel injectors.....Then I had to remove another 8 screws to get the >> lower >> > half of the airbox off the throttlebody (TB) that had another 4 fuel >> > ijectors in it...This is a 650 with 8 fuel injectors.....Now i can >> see the >> > throttle cables attached to the TB and they are working perfectly but >> they >> > still don't open the butterflys in the TB.....I got on the Bike Banit >> > website and pulled up the parts breakdown and the cable operate an >> > accelleration sensor which activates a servo motor to open the >> > butterflys...Then their is another throttle position sensor on the end of >> > the butterfly shaft that tell the computer what to do.....The damn >> thing is >> > drive by wire !!!! And what is at the beginning of most wires....DUH....A >> > FUSE !!!! Sure enough....I checked the fuses and found a blown 7.5 >> amp ETC >> > fuse, as in Electronic Throttle Control.....I replaced the fuse and >> put the >> > airbox back together and BAM....It fired right up and revved like a >> Bat out >> > of Hell !!!! I spent the next 2 hours putting the bodywork back on .....I >> > don't care if I ever work on another crotch rocket again.... >> > >> > So be thankfull you ride a KLR.....And do yourself a favor and pull >> the carb >> > off the bike to go through it...It's really not that hard !!!!! In fact I >> > did mine last week and After tearing it completly down, cleaning it, >> > replacing a bad air cutoff diaphram, shimming the needle, drilling the >> > diaphram, adding an adjustable airscrew, and putting a kit in it >> (THANX FRED >> > !!!) it ran like a top....And it only took me 2 hours to do the whole >> thing >> > start to finish..... >> > >> > Mike Huber >> > Carlsbad NM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> > From: tamarack@... >> > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:36:51 -0700 >> > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I am willing to bet he screwed something up... >> > Talk to him for 2 min and you will wonder how he manages to open the >> front >> > door. >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Craig Kahler > >> > To: Jeff Khoury >; Ian >> Francisco > >> > Cc: DSN KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> >; "tamarack@... >> " >> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:14 AM >> > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k >> > >> > >> > It sounds like the slide is not lifting. torn carb diafram or stuck >> slide. >> > The guy who rebuilt it may have screwed something up. >> > Craig >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead >> > Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> > Member Map: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map >> > Group Apps: >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! >> > Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Kenneth Edick]

K.I.S.S. Air filter, spark plug, last time filled up. Ken Colorado

On Sep 7, 2012, at 12:59 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > So, what was the problem? > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > On 7/25/2012 10:34 PM, greg coyle wrote: >> for now those boots are only a pain... just wait till they're >> 10 or 15 or 30 years old like my 78 z1r... they are way past pain and >> damn near impossible to get them back in without having one pinched. can >> you send a pic of that tool you were describing? >> >> gregc >> >> >> On 7/25/2012 3:26 AM, Mike Huber wrote: >>> >>> >>> I came up with the perfect tool for removing those too....I had a set of >>> 12" long needle nose pliers with a 90* at the end and cut off about 3/4 >>> of an inch off the tips... >>> It works great and you won't break the nut trying to turn the carb in >>> the rubber boots....Remove 1 screw that holds the throttle cable bracket >>> and loosen the boot clamps .... >>> I also use a tool for removing radiator hoses to get the carb out and >>> back into the boots....It sure beats trying to work on it on the bike. >>> >>> Mike Huber >>> Carlsbad NM >>> >>> >>>> From: GMac999@... >>>> To: minoman59@... >>>> Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k >>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:39:44 -0500 >>>> >>>> And while pulling the carb, if you break the plastic nut holding the >>>> enricher valve off or strip the threads on it, Fred has those too. >>>> >>>> Greg McKinney >>>> Bartlett, TN >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>> ] On >>>> Behalf Of Mike Huber >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:16 PM >>>> To: tamarack@... ; >>> dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k >>>> >>>> >>>> This is a no power over IDLE story.... >>>> >>>> Be thankfull you ride a KLR.....The other day a friend of mine asked >>> me to >>>> look at his sons Yamaha R6 crotch rocket ....It would start right up and >>>> idle but when you cracked the throttle open it would just idle ....We >>>> thought ,OK it's just a broken throttle cable....I spent the next 2 hours >>>> pulling off the bodywork to get to the aircleaner box under the gas >>>> tank.....I pulled the top of the airbox off that had a fuel line >>> attched to >>>> 4 Fuel injectors.....Then I had to remove another 8 screws to get the >>> lower >>>> half of the airbox off the throttlebody (TB) that had another 4 fuel >>>> ijectors in it...This is a 650 with 8 fuel injectors.....Now i can >>> see the >>>> throttle cables attached to the TB and they are working perfectly but >>> they >>>> still don't open the butterflys in the TB.....I got on the Bike Banit >>>> website and pulled up the parts breakdown and the cable operate an >>>> accelleration sensor which activates a servo motor to open the >>>> butterflys...Then their is another throttle position sensor on the end of >>>> the butterfly shaft that tell the computer what to do.....The damn >>> thing is >>>> drive by wire !!!! And what is at the beginning of most wires....DUH....A >>>> FUSE !!!! Sure enough....I checked the fuses and found a blown 7.5 >>> amp ETC >>>> fuse, as in Electronic Throttle Control.....I replaced the fuse and >>> put the >>>> airbox back together and BAM....It fired right up and revved like a >>> Bat out >>>> of Hell !!!! I spent the next 2 hours putting the bodywork back on .....I >>>> don't care if I ever work on another crotch rocket again.... >>>> >>>> So be thankfull you ride a KLR.....And do yourself a favor and pull >>> the carb >>>> off the bike to go through it...It's really not that hard !!!!! In fact I >>>> did mine last week and After tearing it completly down, cleaning it, >>>> replacing a bad air cutoff diaphram, shimming the needle, drilling the >>>> diaphram, adding an adjustable airscrew, and putting a kit in it >>> (THANX FRED >>>> !!!) it ran like a top....And it only took me 2 hours to do the whole >>> thing >>>> start to finish..... >>>> >>>> Mike Huber >>>> Carlsbad NM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>> From: tamarack@... >>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:36:51 -0700 >>>> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am willing to bet he screwed something up... >>>> Talk to him for 2 min and you will wonder how he manages to open the >>> front >>>> door. >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Craig Kahler > >>>> To: Jeff Khoury >; Ian >>> Francisco > >>>> Cc: DSN KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>> >; "tamarack@... >>> " >>>> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:14 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] no power over 4k >>>> >>>> >>>> It sounds like the slide is not lifting. torn carb diafram or stuck >>> slide. >>>> The guy who rebuilt it may have screwed something up. >>>> Craig >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead >>>> Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >>>> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >>>> Member Map: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map >>>> Group Apps: >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! >>>> Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com >> Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map >> Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > >