flat fixing on a klr

[Robert Waters]

I have a chance to buy a KLR-650 that has no title. It has been setting out but the engine looks good and the speed ometer panel as well as the fork and wheels. Frame is rusty. I have not confirmed what year it was made but it is thought to be about 1990. It has 8,000 on the engine. I don't think they are going to be able to produce a key for the ignition or the tank. It has been repainted and poorly done. How much should I be willing to give for this bike to part out? I will probably buy this, so anyone interested in certain parts? Also, will this engine work on my 2007? They look alike. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Robert Waters]

I forgot to note that the bike is not stolen. I have enough info to apply for lost title, but not sure I want to get involved in a rebuild project like this. But it is an option.

> I have a chance to buy a KLR-650 that has no title. It has been setting out but the engine looks good and the speed ometer panel as well as the fork and wheels. Frame is rusty. I have not confirmed what year it was made but it is thought to be about 1990. It has 8,000 on the engine. I don't think they are going to be able to produce a key for the ignition or the tank. It has been repainted and poorly done. How much should I be willing to give for this bike to part out? > > I will probably buy this, so anyone interested in certain parts? Also, will this engine work on my 2007? They look alike. >

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[Jeff Saline]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Robert Waters writes:

> I have a chance to buy a KLR-650 that has no title. It has been > setting out but the engine looks good and the speed ometer panel as > well as the fork and wheels. Frame is rusty. I have not confirmed > what year it was made but it is thought to be about 1990. It has > 8,000 on the engine. I don't think they are going to be able to > produce a key for the ignition or the tank. It has been repainted > and poorly done. How much should I be willing to give for this bike > to part out? > > I will probably buy this, so anyone interested in certain parts? > Also, will this engine work on my 2007? They look alike.

<><><><><> <><><><><> Robert, I'll suggest if you get this bike you should apply for the title. Without a title the frame is worthless. The engine will bolt in a 2007 bike but there are some differences. I think the sprocket is held on with two bolts and a plate. The early balancer system is a bit different but can be upgraded. That might have been only on earlier models but it would be worth finding out about. Still uses the doohickey. The cylinder liner is thinner so cannot be used for a larger bore unless you install a liner. That changed in 1996 with a thicker liner. The head, carb, exhaust, shock, forks, brakes etc should all be compatible. If you get the bike and what to get into the tank let me know. There is a way to open the fuel cap without a key. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5000163fbd7e0163e0c0dst52vuc

[RobertWichert]

It was stolen. Not a doubt in my mind. Stolen property. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 7/13/2012 5:33 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Robert Waters > > writes: > > I have a chance to buy a KLR-650 that has no title. It has been > > setting out but the engine looks good and the speed ometer panel as > > well as the fork and wheels. Frame is rusty. I have not confirmed > > what year it was made but it is thought to be about 1990. It has > > 8,000 on the engine. I don't think they are going to be able to > > produce a key for the ignition or the tank. It has been repainted > > and poorly done. How much should I be willing to give for this bike > > to part out? > > > > I will probably buy this, so anyone interested in certain parts? > > Also, will this engine work on my 2007? They look alike. > <><><><><> > <><><><><> > > Robert, > > I'll suggest if you get this bike you should apply for the title. > Without a title the frame is worthless. > > The engine will bolt in a 2007 bike but there are some differences. I > think the sprocket is held on with two bolts and a plate. The early > balancer system is a bit different but can be upgraded. That might have > been only on earlier models but it would be worth finding out about. > Still uses the doohickey. The cylinder liner is thinner so cannot be > used for a larger bore unless you install a liner. That changed in 1996 > with a thicker liner. > > The head, carb, exhaust, shock, forks, brakes etc should all be > compatible. > > If you get the bike and what to get into the tank let me know. There is > a way to open the fuel cap without a key. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > > . > . > __________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5000163fbd7e0163e0c0dst52vuc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud]

That was just my thought. The disclaimer is too little, too late. ;-{>

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > It was stolen. Not a doubt in my mind. > > Stolen property. > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > On 7/13/2012 5:33 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Robert Waters > > > writes: > > > I have a chance to buy a KLR-650 that has no title. It has been > > > setting out but the engine looks good and the speed ometer panel as > > > well as the fork and wheels. Frame is rusty. I have not confirmed > > > what year it was made but it is thought to be about 1990. It has > > > 8,000 on the engine. I don't think they are going to be able to > > > produce a key for the ignition or the tank. It has been repainted > > > and poorly done. How much should I be willing to give for this bike > > > to part out? > > > > > > I will probably buy this, so anyone interested in certain parts? > > > Also, will this engine work on my 2007? They look alike. > > <><><><><> > > <><><><><> > > > > Robert, > > > > I'll suggest if you get this bike you should apply for the title. > > Without a title the frame is worthless. > > > > The engine will bolt in a 2007 bike but there are some differences. I > > think the sprocket is held on with two bolts and a plate. The early > > balancer system is a bit different but can be upgraded. That might have > > been only on earlier models but it would be worth finding out about. > > Still uses the doohickey. The cylinder liner is thinner so cannot be > > used for a larger bore unless you install a liner. That changed in 1996 > > with a thicker liner. > > > > The head, carb, exhaust, shock, forks, brakes etc should all be > > compatible. > > > > If you get the bike and what to get into the tank let me know. There is > > a way to open the fuel cap without a key. > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > > > > . > > . > > __________________________________________________________ > > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5000163fbd7e0163e0c0dst52vuc > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jud]

Actually, there are some tires (possibly many) that can be run flat. Once up to road speed, say 40 or 50 mph, centrifugal force will expand the tread so the bike will run down the road and handle, not decently, but controllably, sort of. As long as the bead stays on the rim, you are ok. Of course, rim locks are a big help in this regard. It also helps if the bike is not heavily loaded. The trick is in wrestling the bike up to speed through the transition from a wobbly bike to one that can be ridden, and then slowing it down again without dropping it. I don't know if it will work with all bikes or all tires, but when I have done it, I don't recall that the sidewalls were particularly stiff. Of course, it should be much easier on a stiff tire like the D606. Nor will it work off-road without a stiff sidewall, as your speed will be insufficient to expand the tire. I don't necessarily recommend this tactic. I was much younger and fitter on the couple of occasions where circumstances pushed me to it. The threat of a hard tumble is always there, and I would not be as ready to risk it these days.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Yes it would work with other tires if the sidewall is strong enough to > support the weight without any air. The D606 is the only tire I have > confirmed that will not collapse. I suppose if you let all the air out of > your tube and can sit on the bike without the tire sidewall collapsing then > the tire could be a candidate for using dual rim locks to make them work > like run-flat tires. > > Walt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of RobertWichert > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 20:19 > To: k650@... > Cc: 'Ron Criswell'; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Flat fixing on a KLR > > Would this "work" with other tires? I use TKC-80 tires, and I have no idea > about the sidewalls. > > Highway speeds are not required. Just 30 mph would be fine with me. > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > On 7/12/2012 1:36 PM, k650@... wrote: > > > > For the KLR I think the method I use is better. Pair of D606 tires > > with two rim locks per wheel. The tire sidewalls are stiff enough that > > with the dual rim locks you can still travel at highway speeds safely > > with 0 PSI in the tubes. No reason to stop at all. Only downside if > > running with no pressure is accelerated tread wear and the increased > > heat generated makes it prudent to replace the tube when you get > > around to it at your leisure. > > > > Walt > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > ] On Behalf Of Ron Criswell > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:50 > > To: Undisclosed recipients: > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Flat fixing on a KLR > > > > This is a response a friend sent me about my recent flat on the road > > of what he does on his KLR tires using a semi tubless method. He > > teaches motorcycle and small engine repair at a local Jr. College and > > has been known to get his KLR up to top speed on occasion as ex road > > racers might be inclined to do. > > > > Criswell > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > Ron, > > > You should convert your KLR wheels to semi-tubeless like I did mine, > > that > > way when you have a puncture in the tube you just plug the tire with a > > rope type plug kit and air it up. After truing the rim and tightening > > the spokes really tight, seal the rim with PL polyurethane roofing > > caulk (available at Home Depot) in place of the rim flap and cover > > with a couple of rounds of electrical tape. You must use tubes with > > round metal valve stems (Malcolm Smith heavy duty or IRC tubes). The > > trick is you need to seal around the valve stem with a grommet and > > something to hold and compress it. I have been running this set up on > > both of my KLR's for years now and on a few occasions have had to plug > > them. When I get back from a ride with the plug I patch the tire from > > the inside and replace the tube. Makes me feel better to have this > > option when I ride by myself. For more info on this you will have to > > stop by and see me sometime. > > > Later, > > > > > > > > > Duncan Paul > > > Engine Technology - Program Coordinator > > > > > > Cedar Valley College > > > 3030 N. Dallas Ave. > > > Lancaster, TX 75159 > > > Office; 972-860-8223 > > > > > > I had a flat and not having much experience fixing one on the side > > of the > > road, it is good to have 4 or 5 guys around that has done it before. I > > usually take my wheels off and let someone else mount them but > > rethinking that. I need the experience (heh). > > > > > > RC > > >> > > >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Arrowhead > > Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > > Group Apps: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead > Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links >