klr radiator testing

[ron criswell]

This is a response a friend sent me about my recent flat on the road of what he does on his KLR tires using a semi tubless method. He teaches motorcycle and small engine repair at a local Jr. College and has been known to get his KLR up to top speed on occasion as ex road racers might be inclined to do. Criswell Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message:

> Ron, > You should convert your KLR wheels to semi-tubeless like I did mine, that way when you have a puncture in the tube you just plug the tire with a rope type plug kit and air it up. After truing the rim and tightening the spokes really tight, seal the rim with PL polyurethane roofing caulk (available at Home Depot) in place of the rim flap and cover with a couple of rounds of electrical tape. You must use tubes with round metal valve stems (Malcolm Smith heavy duty or IRC tubes). The trick is you need to seal around the valve stem with a grommet and something to hold and compress it. I have been running this set up on both of my KLR's for years now and on a few occasions have had to plug them. When I get back from a ride with the plug I patch the tire from the inside and replace the tube. Makes me feel better to have this option when I ride by myself. For more info on this you will have to stop by and see me sometime. > Later, > > > Duncan Paul > Engine Technology - Program Coordinator > > Cedar Valley College > 3030 N. Dallas Ave. > Lancaster, TX 75159 > Office; 972-860-8223 > > I had a flat and not having much experience fixing one on the side of the road, it is good to have 4 or 5 guys around that has done it before. I usually take my wheels off and let someone else mount them but rethinking that. I need the experience (heh). > > RC >> >>

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[k650@verizon.net]

For the KLR I think the method I use is better. Pair of D606 tires with two rim locks per wheel. The tire sidewalls are stiff enough that with the dual rim locks you can still travel at highway speeds safely with 0 PSI in the tubes. No reason to stop at all. Only downside if running with no pressure is accelerated tread wear and the increased heat generated makes it prudent to replace the tube when you get around to it at your leisure. Walt -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Criswell Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:50 To: Undisclosed recipients: Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Flat fixing on a KLR This is a response a friend sent me about my recent flat on the road of what he does on his KLR tires using a semi tubless method. He teaches motorcycle and small engine repair at a local Jr. College and has been known to get his KLR up to top speed on occasion as ex road racers might be inclined to do. Criswell Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message:

> Ron, > You should convert your KLR wheels to semi-tubeless like I did mine, that

way when you have a puncture in the tube you just plug the tire with a rope type plug kit and air it up. After truing the rim and tightening the spokes really tight, seal the rim with PL polyurethane roofing caulk (available at Home Depot) in place of the rim flap and cover with a couple of rounds of electrical tape. You must use tubes with round metal valve stems (Malcolm Smith heavy duty or IRC tubes). The trick is you need to seal around the valve stem with a grommet and something to hold and compress it. I have been running this set up on both of my KLR's for years now and on a few occasions have had to plug them. When I get back from a ride with the plug I patch the tire from the inside and replace the tube. Makes me feel better to have this option when I ride by myself. For more info on this you will have to stop by and see me sometime.

> Later, > > > Duncan Paul > Engine Technology - Program Coordinator > > Cedar Valley College > 3030 N. Dallas Ave. > Lancaster, TX 75159 > Office; 972-860-8223 > > I had a flat and not having much experience fixing one on the side of the

road, it is good to have 4 or 5 guys around that has done it before. I usually take my wheels off and let someone else mount them but rethinking that. I need the experience (heh).

> > RC >> >>

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[James W. Flower]

They may be trying to re-invent the wheel, but they're having a hell of a good time doing it!

[RobertWichert]

Would this "work" with other tires? I use TKC-80 tires, and I have no idea about the sidewalls. Highway speeds are not required. Just 30 mph would be fine with me. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 7/12/2012 1:36 PM, k650@... wrote: > > For the KLR I think the method I use is better. Pair of D606 tires > with two > rim locks per wheel. The tire sidewalls are stiff enough that with the > dual > rim locks you can still travel at highway speeds safely with 0 PSI in the > tubes. No reason to stop at all. Only downside if running with no pressure > is accelerated tread wear and the increased heat generated makes it > prudent > to replace the tube when you get around to it at your leisure. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > ] On > Behalf Of Ron Criswell > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:50 > To: Undisclosed recipients: > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Flat fixing on a KLR > > This is a response a friend sent me about my recent flat on the road > of what > he does on his KLR tires using a semi tubless method. He teaches > motorcycle > and small engine repair at a local Jr. College and has been known to > get his > KLR up to top speed on occasion as ex road racers might be inclined to do. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > Ron, > > You should convert your KLR wheels to semi-tubeless like I did mine, > that > way when you have a puncture in the tube you just plug the tire with a > rope > type plug kit and air it up. After truing the rim and tightening the > spokes > really tight, seal the rim with PL polyurethane roofing caulk > (available at > Home Depot) in place of the rim flap and cover with a couple of rounds of > electrical tape. You must use tubes with round metal valve stems (Malcolm > Smith heavy duty or IRC tubes). The trick is you need to seal around the > valve stem with a grommet and something to hold and compress it. I > have been > running this set up on both of my KLR's for years now and on a few > occasions > have had to plug them. When I get back from a ride with the plug I > patch the > tire from the inside and replace the tube. Makes me feel better to > have this > option when I ride by myself. For more info on this you will have to > stop by > and see me sometime. > > Later, > > > > > > Duncan Paul > > Engine Technology - Program Coordinator > > > > Cedar Valley College > > 3030 N. Dallas Ave. > > Lancaster, TX 75159 > > Office; 972-860-8223 > > > > I had a flat and not having much experience fixing one on the side > of the > road, it is good to have 4 or 5 guys around that has done it before. I > usually take my wheels off and let someone else mount them but rethinking > that. I need the experience (heh). > > > > RC > >> > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead > Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[k650@verizon.net]

Yes it would work with other tires if the sidewall is strong enough to support the weight without any air. The D606 is the only tire I have confirmed that will not collapse. I suppose if you let all the air out of your tube and can sit on the bike without the tire sidewall collapsing then the tire could be a candidate for using dual rim locks to make them work like run-flat tires. Walt -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RobertWichert Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 20:19 To: k650@... Cc: 'Ron Criswell'; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Flat fixing on a KLR Would this "work" with other tires? I use TKC-80 tires, and I have no idea about the sidewalls. Highway speeds are not required. Just 30 mph would be fine with me. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 7/12/2012 1:36 PM, k650@... wrote: > > For the KLR I think the method I use is better. Pair of D606 tires > with two rim locks per wheel. The tire sidewalls are stiff enough that > with the dual rim locks you can still travel at highway speeds safely > with 0 PSI in the tubes. No reason to stop at all. Only downside if > running with no pressure is accelerated tread wear and the increased > heat generated makes it prudent to replace the tube when you get > around to it at your leisure. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > ] On Behalf Of Ron Criswell > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:50 > To: Undisclosed recipients: > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Flat fixing on a KLR > > This is a response a friend sent me about my recent flat on the road > of what he does on his KLR tires using a semi tubless method. He > teaches motorcycle and small engine repair at a local Jr. College and > has been known to get his KLR up to top speed on occasion as ex road > racers might be inclined to do. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > Ron, > > You should convert your KLR wheels to semi-tubeless like I did mine, > that > way when you have a puncture in the tube you just plug the tire with a > rope type plug kit and air it up. After truing the rim and tightening > the spokes really tight, seal the rim with PL polyurethane roofing > caulk (available at Home Depot) in place of the rim flap and cover > with a couple of rounds of electrical tape. You must use tubes with > round metal valve stems (Malcolm Smith heavy duty or IRC tubes). The > trick is you need to seal around the valve stem with a grommet and > something to hold and compress it. I have been running this set up on > both of my KLR's for years now and on a few occasions have had to plug > them. When I get back from a ride with the plug I patch the tire from > the inside and replace the tube. Makes me feel better to have this > option when I ride by myself. For more info on this you will have to > stop by and see me sometime. > > Later, > > > > > > Duncan Paul > > Engine Technology - Program Coordinator > > > > Cedar Valley College > > 3030 N. Dallas Ave. > > Lancaster, TX 75159 > > Office; 972-860-8223 > > > > I had a flat and not having much experience fixing one on the side > of the > road, it is good to have 4 or 5 guys around that has done it before. I > usually take my wheels off and let someone else mount them but > rethinking that. I need the experience (heh). > > > > RC > >> > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead > Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links