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[sourdoughmedic]

Got a question for you smart guys. Situation: I have a '09 with original battery. I've installed a cigarette lighter directly to the battery (ground/hot wire). Now and then I am required to put the bike on the trickle charger for a few minutes to get some power and crank the bike. In your experience with KLR stock batteries/strator, should I start looking for a new battery or even and upgrade in my electrical system? Any advice is appreciated. ATW! Larry '09 KLR Fort Bragg, NC

[Jeff Khoury]

The stock slosh battery is crap. If your electrolyte levels are correct and it's not holding a charge, time to replace it. I recommend a good AGM battery for replacement. If you have an '09, it's getting about time for it to go, plus or minus. The power port should not create a drain at all if nothing's plugged in to it. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "sourdoughmedic" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 11:39:58 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Start up Issues Got a question for you smart guys. Situation: I have a '09 with original battery. I've installed a cigarette lighter directly to the battery (ground/hot wire). Now and then I am required to put the bike on the trickle charger for a few minutes to get some power and crank the bike. In your experience with KLR stock batteries/strator, should I start looking for a new battery or even and upgrade in my electrical system? Any advice is appreciated. ATW! Larry '09 KLR Fort Bragg, NC

[Ron Haraseth]

Probably time to start saving for a new battery 3 years is a good run for a lead/acid depending on care. Ever run it fully flat? Kept the water level up with distilled water? A YES and NO and its most definitely due. Ron -----Original Message----- From: sourdoughmedic Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:39 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Start up Issues Got a question for you smart guys. Situation: I have a '09 with original battery. I've installed a cigarette lighter directly to the battery (ground/hot wire). Now and then I am required to put the bike on the trickle charger for a few minutes to get some power and crank the bike. In your experience with KLR stock batteries/strator, should I start looking for a new battery or even and upgrade in my electrical system? Any advice is appreciated. ATW! Larry '09 KLR Fort Bragg, NC ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links

[Jud]

You probably need a new battery, but if you want to know for sure, service the battery, topping up the cells with distilled, then charge it with your trickle charger. A good battery will read 12.6-12.8 v across the terminals, and will hold that voltage at least overnight. If it won't do that, replace it, try the old aspirin trick, or live with uncertainty. Next test: Crank the starter. Voltage should not dip below 10v. If it does, your battery is on the way out. Your options: same as before. While you have the voltmeter out, you can check the operation of your charging system. With a good battery, charging voltage at idle should be in the neighborhood of 13.1v. Voltage should rise with revs until something over 14v, at which point it should level out or fall off as your voltage regulator dumps current to ground. A bad battery may queer these readings.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sourdoughmedic" wrote: > > Got a question for you smart guys. > > Situation: I have a '09 with original battery. I've installed a cigarette lighter directly to the battery (ground/hot wire). Now and then I am required to put the bike on the trickle charger for a few minutes to get some power and crank the bike. > > In your experience with KLR stock batteries/strator, should I start looking for a new battery or even and upgrade in my electrical system? > > Any advice is appreciated. > > ATW! > > Larry > '09 KLR > Fort Bragg, NC >

[Jud]

While an AGM battery is probably the best choice for a dual sport that is likely to spend some time on its side, I would not say that a slosh battery is crap, or that an AGM is superior in every respect. The slosh battery has served us pretty well for many years, and there are lots of examples of them still giving good service after eight, ten or more years, not the norm, to be sure, but anybody who has had a lot of motorbikes has probably had two or three conventional batteries that gave exceptional service. AGM batteries need assiduous attention while the bike is put up. I have had several fail after one season, and if they fail in service, they typically do so without warning, while a slosh battery is more likely to let you know it is on the down-slope well in advance of the terminal day.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > The stock slosh battery is crap. > > If your electrolyte levels are correct and it's not holding a charge, time to replace it. I recommend a good AGM battery for replacement. > > If you have an '09, it's getting about time for it to go, plus or minus. The power port should not create a drain at all if nothing's plugged in to it. > > -Jeff Khoury > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sourdoughmedic" > To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 11:39:58 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Start up Issues > > > > > > > Got a question for you smart guys. > > Situation: I have a '09 with original battery. I've installed a cigarette lighter directly to the battery (ground/hot wire). Now and then I am required to put the bike on the trickle charger for a few minutes to get some power and crank the bike. > > In your experience with KLR stock batteries/strator, should I start looking for a new battery or even and upgrade in my electrical system? > > Any advice is appreciated. > > ATW! > > Larry > '09 KLR > Fort Bragg, NC >

[Eddie]

My vote goes to/for the slosh battery.......... have had both, and slosh is just fine by me. Maintenance free batteries are for socialists I am told? But, you have to decide for yourself. I do agree that you are about due for a new battery. And, not to add voltage to another difference of opinions, but I have found that when my battery is going bad, the KLR tends to backfire (loud like a gunshot) when I back off the throttle at speed, or at start up. Eddie

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud" wrote: > > While an AGM battery is probably the best choice for a dual sport that is likely to spend some time on its side, I would not say that a slosh battery is crap, or that an AGM is superior in every respect. The slosh battery has served us pretty well for many years, and there are lots of examples of them still giving good service after eight, ten or more years, not the norm, to be sure, but anybody who has had a lot of motorbikes has probably had two or three conventional batteries that gave exceptional service. > > AGM batteries need assiduous attention while the bike is put up. I have had several fail after one season, and if they fail in service, they typically do so without warning, while a slosh battery is more likely to let you know it is on the down-slope well in advance of the terminal day. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > > > The stock slosh battery is crap. > > > > If your electrolyte levels are correct and it's not holding a charge, time to replace it. I recommend a good AGM battery for replacement. > > > > If you have an '09, it's getting about time for it to go, plus or minus. The power port should not create a drain at all if nothing's plugged in to it. > > > > -Jeff Khoury > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "sourdoughmedic" > > To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 11:39:58 AM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Start up Issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a question for you smart guys. > > > > Situation: I have a '09 with original battery. I've installed a cigarette lighter directly to the battery (ground/hot wire). Now and then I am required to put the bike on the trickle charger for a few minutes to get some power and crank the bike. > > > > In your experience with KLR stock batteries/strator, should I start looking for a new battery or even and upgrade in my electrical system? > > > > Any advice is appreciated. > > > > ATW! > > > > Larry > > '09 KLR > > Fort Bragg, NC > > >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tony wrote: BTW, a microfleece liner can add a 10 or 12 degrees to the bag's rating, if you can find the right size. And easier to keep the bag smelling fresh. > I also use the liner as a bag in warm weather. > If you will take that micro fleece blanket and sew the end shut and up the open edge about a foot, it will keep your feet inside the blanket much warmer as well. I have done the same with a flannel blanket; as Tony correctly suggests, it helps keep the inside of the bag 'fresh' as well. revmaaatin.

[Jeff Khoury]

I must admit I'm biased against slosh batteries. I hate checking them, filling them and I particularly hate acid spilling out when the bike takes a dirt nap. I guess they're OK for street bikes, but not in a KLR. Actual cash value $0.02

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jud" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 8:24:06 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Start up Issues While an AGM battery is probably the best choice for a dual sport that is likely to spend some time on its side, I would not say that a slosh battery is crap, or that an AGM is superior in every respect. The slosh battery has served us pretty well for many years, and there are lots of examples of them still giving good service after eight, ten or more years, not the norm, to be sure, but anybody who has had a lot of motorbikes has probably had two or three conventional batteries that gave exceptional service. AGM batteries need assiduous attention while the bike is put up. I have had several fail after one season, and if they fail in service, they typically do so without warning, while a slosh battery is more likely to let you know it is on the down-slope well in advance of the terminal day. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Jeff Khoury wrote: > > The stock slosh battery is crap. > > If your electrolyte levels are correct and it's not holding a charge, time to replace it. I recommend a good AGM battery for replacement. > > If you have an '09, it's getting about time for it to go, plus or minus. The power port should not create a drain at all if nothing's plugged in to it. > > -Jeff Khoury > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sourdoughmedic" > To: "DSN KLR650" < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 11:39:58 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Start up Issues > > > > > > > Got a question for you smart guys. > > Situation: I have a '09 with original battery. I've installed a cigarette lighter directly to the battery (ground/hot wire). Now and then I am required to put the bike on the trickle charger for a few minutes to get some power and crank the bike. > > In your experience with KLR stock batteries/strator, should I start looking for a new battery or even and upgrade in my electrical system? > > Any advice is appreciated. > > ATW! > > Larry > '09 KLR > Fort Bragg, NC >