frustrating intermittent spark ... i think?

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John Biccum
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[dsn_klr650] oil cap temp gauge

Post by John Biccum » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:20 pm

It's cool, isn't that enough rationale? Plus you can afford it. Those two "reasons" are enough to drive much of the farkleing economy! Also worth noting is that consumer spending makes up much of the American economy; lately the economic news has not been so cheery. So consider it your patriotic duty to buy this farkle, your country needs you to pull out your credit card, right this minute. Operators are standing by. On the minus side: Your SR500 was air cooled, which really means that the SR500 engine is cooled by the circulating oil which in turn is cooled by the air. But the KLR is water cooled, not air-oil cooled. As the excellent work of Watt Man tells us, the problem with the KLRs oil temps (and coolant temps) is that they are too cool, not too warm. So the oil temp gage seems to offer little benefit in detecting a potential problem since too high oil temps are not likely on a KLR. Still want to spend that money? Looking down and to the right side of the bike diverts your gaze from where you should be looking. You should be looking where you are going plus in the direction that threats might appear. But not so many threats are likely to come at you from the direction of the oil filler plug . Then, as you mentioned, there is the possibility that the temp gage-oil filler cap will be stolen. It only a few bucks why worry? Well, if you happen to notice the theft before you start the bike you will still be considerably inconvenienced by having to secure something to cover the filler hole BEFORE you start the bike. Of course it is much more likely that the first indication that your temp gage was stolen would be the KLR puking its oil out on the road, your right boot, your right pants leg. The bike WILL expel a great deal of oil in a very short time if the bike is started without the filler cap in place. I will leave it to your imagination how I know this with CERTAINTY J. But you asked for reasons to BUY this farkle, not for reasons NOT to buy it. So I'll give you one final reason to buy this farkle, and buy it today: I could really use this for my (air cooled) Moto Guzzi Mille GT. So please do buy it right away and watch for an off-list email with my shipping address. It's the least I can do for a fellow long-time list member doing their patriotic duty to stimulate the ecomony! From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jwflower53 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:26 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Oil Cap Temp Gauge OK, it's not necessary and it'll get stolen in a week. But it's cool! Reminds me of the one I had on my SR500. Somebody provide me with a rationale to buy one! eBay item 320915981354. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RobertWichert
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[dsn_klr650] oil cap temp gauge

Post by RobertWichert » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:34 am

If you start the bike (I should say "When I started the bike") with the oil filler cap removed, oil sprays onto the windscreen, the instruments, the tank and is impossible to miss. You won't get to the road. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 6/5/2012 5:20 PM, John Biccum wrote: > > It's cool, isn't that enough rationale? Plus you can afford it. Those two > "reasons" are enough to drive much of the farkleing economy! Also worth > noting is that consumer spending makes up much of the American economy; > lately the economic news has not been so cheery. So consider it your > patriotic duty to buy this farkle, your country needs you to pull out your > credit card, right this minute. Operators are standing by. > > On the minus side: > > Your SR500 was air cooled, which really means that the SR500 engine is > cooled by the circulating oil which in turn is cooled by the air. But the > KLR is water cooled, not air-oil cooled. As the excellent work of Watt Man > tells us, the problem with the KLRs oil temps (and coolant temps) is that > they are too cool, not too warm. So the oil temp gage seems to offer > little > benefit in detecting a potential problem since too high oil temps are not > likely on a KLR. > > Still want to spend that money? Looking down and to the right side of the > bike diverts your gaze from where you should be looking. You should be > looking where you are going plus in the direction that threats might > appear. > But not so many threats are likely to come at you from the direction > of the > oil filler plug . > > Then, as you mentioned, there is the possibility that the temp gage-oil > filler cap will be stolen. It only a few bucks why worry? Well, if you > happen to notice the theft before you start the bike you will still be > considerably inconvenienced by having to secure something to cover the > filler hole BEFORE you start the bike. Of course it is much more likely > that the first indication that your temp gage was stolen would be the KLR > puking its oil out on the road, your right boot, your right pants leg. The > bike WILL expel a great deal of oil in a very short time if the bike is > started without the filler cap in place. I will leave it to your > imagination how I know this with CERTAINTY J. > > But you asked for reasons to BUY this farkle, not for reasons NOT to buy > it. So I'll give you one final reason to buy this farkle, and buy it > today: > > I could really use this for my (air cooled) Moto Guzzi Mille GT. > > So please do buy it right away and watch for an off-list email with my > shipping address. It's the least I can do for a fellow long-time list > member doing their patriotic duty to stimulate the ecomony! > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > ] On > Behalf Of jwflower53 > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:26 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Oil Cap Temp Gauge > > OK, it's not necessary and it'll get stolen in a week. But it's cool! > Reminds me of the one I had on my SR500. Somebody provide me with a > rationale to buy one! > eBay item 320915981354. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ken
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frustrating intermittent spark ... i think?

Post by Ken » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:03 am

Hi Guys, Some time ago I posted about intermittent spark. Thank you for all of your replies and suggestions. I finally gave up and bought a used main wiring harness on Ebay and swapped it out. The bike runs great! I never did figure out where the break was. By the way, the harness is only about $55 from the dealer but they are out of stock with no ETA. The used one cost more than that. Thanks again! (does anyone want a used defective harness before it goes in the trash?) Ken
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "ken" wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > My 2005 KLR was giving me some problems before leaving for a trip to Death Valley. I checked all wiring connectors using contact cleaner and then putting dielectric grease before re-connecting them. I thought I had the problem fixed, but the night before leaving, the bike wouldn't start.....no spark. > > I trucked the bike to a shop where the mechanic said there was spark and the gas was bad. He dumped the gas and refilled the tank. The bike ran fine all the way to DV, but would occasionally buck. The problem got worse on the way home, but the bike got me here. Now the bike won't start and guess what... there is no spark. > > I checked for spark by grounding the removed plug to the head. > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Ken >

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