a wired vibration? twas the psi - it seems

[Eddie]

I recently asked a question about a vibration/rumble that I felt when coming to a stop on my brand new Avon Distanzias (see below), several of you made suggestions as to what the culprit might be...... wll, it seems to have been the tire pressure (psi). I had them inflated to 30 psi, lowered it to 25 psi, and Bingo, no mo' vibration/rumble, thanks to all! Eddie M.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" wrote: > > OK y'all, someone please give me a clue as to what this vibration might be? Here is the question; I recently installed Avon Distanzias, they have less than one hundred (100) miles on them. > > The last few days I noticed that when I come to a stop, we are talking walking speed, less than 5 MPH, in the last few seconds (and feet) before a stop, I get a mild vibration (more like a rumble) just as the bike comes to a stop. This vibration/rumble only happens just before a stop, I do not notice it as I accelerate. I do not notice it at speed, and can not feel it as I am slowing down, except for the last few second just before a stop? I can also feel it if I do slow S-Turns, very slowly? > > I checked the obvious, air pressure, and the tires are not rubbing anywhere. The tires seem to be true and balanced, and are wearing evenly, although the latter does not mean much considering they have less than 100 miles. > > Although the vibration/rumble seems to be in the front, a pal rode the bike and he said that it is a toss up between the vibration/rumble coming from the back? My guess is that it is in the front. > > And, it does not matter if I am applying the brakes - front or back. I can coast to a stop or be on the brakes, and I still feel the vibration/rumble just prior to a stop. > > As you might know, the Avon Distanzias do not have any knobs, they are a street tire....... so does anyone have a guess? > > Eddie M > New Orleans >

[bryanonfire]

I'm posting here because I've had so much good advice from the group about my '03 KLR and motorcycle maintenance in general. My query: how would you store a bike for 8 - 10 months in an area with really cold winters? The climate is probably similar to Quebec or Ontario, very cold in winter, mild to lovely May - September. About every other year people pay me to go to Europe. Crazy but true. Don't get the idea I'm a rich businessman, it is non-profit, I go for "expenses" and only end up spending a few hundred bucks or so. Now that I've been over there a few times, it dawned on me that it would be really cool to have a motorcycle, since I always take a couple weeks off to tour around once work is done. I have a trusted friend willing to buy a motorcycle for me (my money, his name, but apparently it is hard to register a bike in Europe without a local address) and keep it for me. However, it would probably sit in the corner of an unheated aircraft hangar from about late September through June. If you had a motorcycle parked for 8 months or more out of the year, how would you prepare it for hibernation? Mind you, I can't count on someone looking in on it every week. It could go completely un-touched from when I cover it up until I return. Also, there are no KLRS available in the Czech Republic. My current choices in used, affordable bikes are Suzuki Freewind (basically a DR 650 engine in a more street oriented bike) or a Honda Transalp, which is KLRish except it's a V-twin. Neither of which made it to the USA. I've studied everything I can find on the internet and am leaning towards the Freewind because it is lighter, gets better mileage, and the Suzuki DR 650 engine has a pretty good reputation. Not that Honda doesn't, but c'mon, why the spare cylinder and extra carburators? :>) Anyone have first hand experience with either? Anybody ridden in CZ and the surrounding area, or can put me in contact with someone who has? Mostly, what would you do to park the bike, lead-acid battery and all, for several months with a cold winter? Thanks, Bryan

[Jeff Saline]

On Mon, 21 May 2012 23:46:03 -0000 "bryanonfire" writes:

> I'm posting here because I've had so much good advice from the group > about my '03 KLR and motorcycle maintenance in general. My query: > how would you store a bike for 8 - 10 months in an area with really > cold winters?

SNIP SNIP SNIP

> Thanks, > > Bryan

<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> Bryan, That's a great question and a neat problem to have. If I was in that situation I would: - Wash and service the bike before putting it away. That means get it clean and put some wax on the body work and bare metal parts. - Change the lubricating fluids to eliminate acid and contaminants from the interior mechanical systems. - Drain the fuel tank, lines and carbs. After it was all drained I'd crank the engine to try to suck any fuel in the jets and carb passages out. - Remove the battery and write down the size and identifying information so I would know what to purchase next time I was going to put the bike in service. I would give the battery away to someone that could use it. - Air the tires to the max pressure listed on the sidewalls. - Lube the chain if it's a chain drive and pivot points like center stand, side stand, levers etc. - Note any issues that need addressing so I would know what parts to get or items to watch when I returned to the bike. - Get a breathable cover for it, a bed sheet will work fine. Once in storage position I'd cover the bike and leave the keys with it. Leave a note with the keys listing what has to be done to put it back in service which might include, install battery (give id info), add fuel, check oil level, check tire pressure, inspect air cleaner and exhaust for rodent nests or food etc. I would hope the bike could be stored in an area that would not get direct sun light. There shouldn't be any issues with condensation if the bike isn't exposed to rapid temperature changes. That should get you to a good start. I'm sure other's on the list will have stuff to add. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fbaf8ade11791578d86st04vuc

[Jud]

If I were keeping a bike there, I'd want a Jawa, 1974 or older.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "bryanonfire" wrote: > > I'm posting here because I've had so much good advice from the group about my '03 KLR and motorcycle maintenance in general. My query: how would you store a bike for 8 - 10 months in an area with really cold winters? The climate is probably similar to Quebec or Ontario, very cold in winter, mild to lovely May - September. > > About every other year people pay me to go to Europe. Crazy but true. Don't get the idea I'm a rich businessman, it is non-profit, I go for "expenses" and only end up spending a few hundred bucks or so. Now that I've been over there a few times, it dawned on me that it would be really cool to have a motorcycle, since I always take a couple weeks off to tour around once work is done. > > I have a trusted friend willing to buy a motorcycle for me (my money, his name, but apparently it is hard to register a bike in Europe without a local address) and keep it for me. However, it would probably sit in the corner of an unheated aircraft hangar from about late September through June. > > If you had a motorcycle parked for 8 months or more out of the year, how would you prepare it for hibernation? Mind you, I can't count on someone looking in on it every week. It could go completely un-touched from when I cover it up until I return. > > Also, there are no KLRS available in the Czech Republic. My current choices in used, affordable bikes are Suzuki Freewind (basically a DR 650 engine in a more street oriented bike) or a Honda Transalp, which is KLRish except it's a V-twin. Neither of which made it to the USA. I've studied everything I can find on the internet and am leaning towards the Freewind because it is lighter, gets better mileage, and the Suzuki DR 650 engine has a pretty good reputation. Not that Honda doesn't, but c'mon, why the spare cylinder and extra carburators? :>) > > Anyone have first hand experience with either? Anybody ridden in CZ and the surrounding area, or can put me in contact with someone who has? > > Mostly, what would you do to park the bike, lead-acid battery and all, for several months with a cold winter? > > Thanks, > > Bryan >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

> Bryan, > > That's a great question and a neat problem to have. > > If I was in that situation I would: > - Wash and service the bike before putting it away. That means get it > clean and put some wax on the body work and bare metal parts. > - Change the lubricating fluids to eliminate acid and contaminants from > the interior mechanical systems. > - Drain the fuel tank, lines and carbs. After it was all drained I'd > crank the engine to try to suck any fuel in the jets and carb passages > out. > - Remove the battery and write down the size and identifying information > so I would know what to purchase next time I was going to put the bike in > service. I would give the battery away to someone that could use it. > - Air the tires to the max pressure listed on the sidewalls. > - Lube the chain if it's a chain drive and pivot points like center > stand, side stand, levers etc. > - Note any issues that need addressing so I would know what parts to get > or items to watch when I returned to the bike. > - Get a breathable cover for it, a bed sheet will work fine. Once in > storage position I'd cover the bike and leave the keys with it. Leave a > note with the keys listing what has to be done to put it back in service > which might include, install battery (give id info), add fuel, check oil > level, check tire pressure, inspect air cleaner and exhaust for rodent > nests or food etc. > > I would hope the bike could be stored in an area that would not get > direct sun light. There shouldn't be any issues with condensation if the > bike isn't exposed to rapid temperature changes. > > That should get you to a good start. I'm sure other's on the list will > have stuff to add. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline

B- Aircraft that are being stored long term have the engine 'fogged' as well. the spark plug is removed and then a 'mist' of oil is injected into the cylinder. Something similar could be done to the gas tank as well if you drained the tank as Jeff has suggested. Fuel/water congregates in the KLR tank in the forward edge. Draining the tank completly requires a careful use of syphon hose or removal of the tank so the fuel is all sloshed to the petcock. Even then, you might have to remove the petcock to get it 'all'. A commercial product known as LPS 3 or 4 is also known for it fogging anti corrosion characteristics; NOTE:I don't know if it is safe to use inside engines, but I do know it is used in certain aircraft 'voids' to help prevent corrosion. Here is a link that you will find useful. http://catoilandgas.cat.com/cda/files/1823203/7/PEHJ0241.pdf If you like minutea, read this: http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=297776 revmaaatin.

[mark ward]

Being in the north, But I also know folks in Fl and several other states, that close up there hm's, sheds, etc, for 6-9 months a yr. MOTH BALLS, toe keep mice, mud wasp, etc. away from your bike, Mice will eat the plasit on the wiring, Besides Nesting as Jeff mentioned. Some sped them on the ground, or open Pie tins etc., I usualy use an old SOCK, Just dump the box in then tie it shut. (or twisty tie, etc.) I put it low on the bike (Foot pegs etc.) since thats where Mice first start there climb and the air box is close by. Many also put them near the tires of stored cars, tarilers ect. In My camper I dump a box onto a paper plate, and also set a small sock with some on the tires. I haven't had a Mouse issue in the camper since I started, 10 yrs ago. But DID BEFORE that. Moth balls were made a as pesticide for more then moths.

--- On Mon, 5/21/12, bryanonfire wrote: From: bryanonfire Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR: storing a bike 10 months To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 11:46 PM I'm posting here because I've had so much good advice from the group about my '03 KLR and motorcycle maintenance in general. My query: how would you store a bike for 8 - 10 months in an area with really cold winters? The climate is probably similar to Quebec or Ontario, very cold in winter, mild to lovely May - September. About every other year people pay me to go to Europe. Crazy but true. Don't get the idea I'm a rich businessman, it is non-profit, I go for "expenses" and only end up spending a few hundred bucks or so. Now that I've been over there a few times, it dawned on me that it would be really cool to have a motorcycle, since I always take a couple weeks off to tour around once work is done. I have a trusted friend willing to buy a motorcycle for me (my money, his name, but apparently it is hard to register a bike in Europe without a local address) and keep it for me. However, it would probably sit in the corner of an unheated aircraft hangar from about late September through June. If you had a motorcycle parked for 8 months or more out of the year, how would you prepare it for hibernation? Mind you, I can't count on someone looking in on it every week. It could go completely un-touched from when I cover it up until I return. Also, there are no KLRS available in the Czech Republic. My current choices in used, affordable bikes are Suzuki Freewind (basically a DR 650 engine in a more street oriented bike) or a Honda Transalp, which is KLRish except it's a V-twin. Neither of which made it to the USA. I've studied everything I can find on the internet and am leaning towards the Freewind because it is lighter, gets better mileage, and the Suzuki DR 650 engine has a pretty good reputation. Not that Honda doesn't, but c'mon, why the spare cylinder and extra carburators? :>) Anyone have first hand experience with either? Anybody ridden in CZ and the surrounding area, or can put me in contact with someone who has? Mostly, what would you do to park the bike, lead-acid battery and all, for several months with a cold winter? Thanks, Bryan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[D Critchley]

I live in Alberta , it does get cool here in the winter. My storage is basically the same things as posted, except that I leave the fuel tank full, with a sensible dosage of fuel stabilizer, and remove the battery to somewhere inside. I charge the battery every 3 months. The logic on the full fuel tank is basically that if there is no air in it, condensation should not occur. other methods work as well, I am sure, but that worked for me through 200 to the present on two of the best bikes available, the A13 and the 2008 KLR, all in the inhospitable climate in which I reside. Good luck DC DC

On 21/05/2012 20:17, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2012 23:46:03 -0000 "bryanonfire" > writes: >> I'm posting here because I've had so much good advice from the group >> about my '03 KLR and motorcycle maintenance in general. My query: >> how would you store a bike for 8 - 10 months in an area with really >> cold winters? > SNIP SNIP SNIP > >> Thanks, >> >> Bryan > <><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><> > > Bryan, > > That's a great question and a neat problem to have. > > If I was in that situation I would: > - Wash and service the bike before putting it away. That means get it > clean and put some wax on the body work and bare metal parts. > - Change the lubricating fluids to eliminate acid and contaminants from > the interior mechanical systems. > - Drain the fuel tank, lines and carbs. After it was all drained I'd > crank the engine to try to suck any fuel in the jets and carb passages > out. > - Remove the battery and write down the size and identifying information > so I would know what to purchase next time I was going to put the bike in > service. I would give the battery away to someone that could use it. > - Air the tires to the max pressure listed on the sidewalls. > - Lube the chain if it's a chain drive and pivot points like center > stand, side stand, levers etc. > - Note any issues that need addressing so I would know what parts to get > or items to watch when I returned to the bike. > - Get a breathable cover for it, a bed sheet will work fine. Once in > storage position I'd cover the bike and leave the keys with it. Leave a > note with the keys listing what has to be done to put it back in service > which might include, install battery (give id info), add fuel, check oil > level, check tire pressure, inspect air cleaner and exhaust for rodent > nests or food etc. > > I would hope the bike could be stored in an area that would not get > direct sun light. There shouldn't be any issues with condensation if the > bike isn't exposed to rapid temperature changes. > > That should get you to a good start. I'm sure other's on the list will > have stuff to add. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > > . > . > ____________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fbaf8ade11791578d86st04vuc > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > > >