d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

[KLRDON]

Maybe borrow a flexible fiber optics scope, the kind that has some fibers dedicated to provide light at the tip and see where it is? Some also have an attachment to turn the view 90 degrees which would be useful for the oil drain inspection. Would this be a KLRinoscopy? Don M

On 5/7/2012 8:40 PM, oldwing@... wrote: > Just so everyone is aware, the cam chain tunnel does not conect with the oil sump, it is outside of that. Turning the bike over may help but nothing in the sump will help. It looks like the most likely is to pull the left side cover as if doing the doo again. I was sorta hoping to advoid more tear down but since it is my fault it is kinda hard to complain to much. It may be a week before I can devote more time to it. I'll let everyone know what I find. > > >> As a last resort, before tearing into the engine, flip the bike upside down. > -- > Bill Lewis > Roanoke, Virginia > Professor of Motorcycleology > > 2004 R1150RT > 1990 R100RT > 2002 KLR > > Expect The Unexpected > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[mark ward]

Hey Whatsthe update on FINDING the socket? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[oldwing@cox.net]

Not much yet as I have not had a great deal of time to pursue it. I have learned a few things that do not work. I took the cams out to give me a little more wiggle room but that has not helped much. I have been looking at magnets on sticks lately and most of what I have seen so far do not work for what I need. Most are the expandable kind like an antennea. When you try to push it into the area that you can not see, it simply pushes back in. Also, they can not be bent into much of a curved shape. One that I tried was apparently a plastic tube holding the magnet on the stick. It was apparently just a friction fit to the stick. Almost lost the magnet down there also. Looks like I will be pulling the doohicky cover for hopefully better access. I'll let everyone know what works. Keep the suggestions coming as you think of them. ---- mark ward wrote:

> Hey Whatsthe update on FINDING the socket? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

-- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected

[mark ward]

Remind, WHERE are you? there may be others near by. Mark (W. Mich.)

--- On Sun, 5/13/12, oldwing@... wrote: From: oldwing@... Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket? What's the update? To: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>, "mark ward" Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 4:13 PM Not much yet as I have not had a great deal of time to pursue it. I have learned a few things that do not work. I took the cams out to give me a little more wiggle room but that has not helped much. I have been looking at magnets on sticks lately and most of what I have seen so far do not work for what I need. Most are the expandable kind like an antennea. When you try to push it into the area that you can not see, it simply pushes back in. Also, they can not be bent into much of a curved shape. One that I tried was apparently a plastic tube holding the magnet on the stick. It was apparently just a friction fit to the stick. Almost lost the magnet down there also. Looks like I will be pulling the doohicky cover for hopefully better access. I'll let everyone know what works. Keep the suggestions coming as you think of them. ---- mark ward wrote: > Hey Whatsthe update on FINDING the socket? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > -- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

How about a shop vacuum and a long thin tube? Do you know what rattler magnets are? http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Rattlesnake-Eggs/dp/B000KRJSHO The are really strong magnets. If you have lots of steel down there, you won't get any help from them, but if you put them down where it's aluminum you might suck that steel socket out. On a string, they could be useful. Be sure to put them in a strong cage though. They are nasty strong. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 5/13/2012 9:13 AM, oldwing@... wrote: > > > Not much yet as I have not had a great deal of time to pursue it. I > have learned a few things that do not work. I took the cams out to > give me a little more wiggle room but that has not helped much. I have > been looking at magnets on sticks lately and most of what I have seen > so far do not work for what I need. Most are the expandable kind like > an antennea. When you try to push it into the area that you can not > see, it simply pushes back in. Also, they can not be bent into much of > a curved shape. One that I tried was apparently a plastic tube holding > the magnet on the stick. It was apparently just a friction fit to the > stick. Almost lost the magnet down there also. Looks like I will be > pulling the doohicky cover for hopefully better access. > > I'll let everyone know what works. Keep the suggestions coming as you > think of them. > > ---- mark ward > wrote: > > Hey Whatsthe update on FINDING the socket? > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > -- > Bill Lewis > Roanoke, Virginia > Professor of Motorcycleology > > 2004 R1150RT > 1990 R100RT > 2002 KLR > > Expect The Unexpected > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Eddie]

Check Sears. They have an off-brand of small tools at the one nearby. It's not the companion brand to Craftsman. Just some other branded stuff. Anyhow, I found a mechanic's magnet that is a somewhat flexible aluminum wire with a small rare earth magnet at the end. In the blister package, the shaft was coiled up like a torsion spring. Uncoil it and it can be shaped to fit in odd directions. Since it doesn't telescope, it won't collapse. I gave it to my mechanic friend for Christmas. He had every tool under the sun --- except that one. =) eddie

> [Original Message] > From: > To: List KLR DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; mark ward

> Date: 5/13/2012 12:13:15 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket? What's the update? > > > Not much yet as I have not had a great deal of time to pursue it. I have

learned a few things that do not work. I took the cams out to give me a little more wiggle room but that has not helped much. I have been looking at magnets on sticks lately and most of what I have seen so far do not work for what I need. Most are the expandable kind like an antennea. When you try to push it into the area that you can not see, it simply pushes back in. Also, they can not be bent into much of a curved shape. One that I tried was apparently a plastic tube holding the magnet on the stick. It was apparently just a friction fit to the stick. Almost lost the magnet down there also. Looks like I will be pulling the doohicky cover for hopefully better access.

> > I'll let everyone know what works. Keep the suggestions coming as you

think of them.

> >