travel list revisited..............

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Eddie
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travel list revisited..............

Post by Eddie » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:27 pm

I posted my Travel List and was surprised by the large number of replies via private e mails. It seems that we have two camps here; One, those of use who try to plan for any contingency knowing that we can never prepare for everything, and that no matter how well you pack, you will forget something. Two, those who take off on a long trip with nothing in the way of supplies. The planners vs. the Buddhist Monks (the later walk the country hoping that someone will fill their bowl). And, I guess that there is a third group that falls somewhere in between. Me, I plan for as much as I can, and still do it with less than fifty (50) pounds of gear that can be packed into two (2) Pelican 1550's. And a smaller tail bag. Better than to be safe than sorry, read on....... For those of you who are regular Rambo's or MacGyver's who don't pack anything, I would urge you to go read post number 186589 "RIP Evan Tanner" (repeated below) Mr. Tanner, may he rest in peace, rode his KLR deep into the California Desert, with no provisions, and paid for it with his life. But then, its your life. I plan for all that I reasonably can, and then beg borrow or steal as needed. I got stuck in New Orleans for Katrina; both my dog and I survived, why/how - I planned, took my chances, and broke even, but alive. Eddie M New Orleans Re: RIP Evan Tanner I just got back from riding solo the Mojave trail and hundreds of miles in Death Valley--total of 4k+ miles in 9-days including this harsh environments and air temps over 116F. At 2 feet off the ground I measured temps exceeding 150F! It's like riding with a hair dryer pointed at your face on high. You keep your shield down and constant water on your body to maximize evaporative cooling and reduce (conserve) hydration needs. It's serious business. With a liter of water in these circumstances, I'd give untrained people less than a day to survive themselves. You have to be prepared and ready to self-rescue. Waiting 2-days for a search to start in this environment can get you killed. And forget walking 20 miles of dessert to get help which sounds like what might have contributed to Evan's death. Rule #1 is don't do anything but find shade at high heat periods. Without working in the shadows and plenty of water, you're in serious trouble if you haven't communicated a ride plan with detailed emergency and extraction procedures. (FYI: We're still looking for Steve Fossett who didn't tell anyone where exactly he was flying when he disappeared). In Death Valley where I was camped the temperature at midnight 2ft off the ground was still 106F. Yes, midnight. Try sleeping in that. Well, if you wrap your body in cheese cloth and keep it wet and keep your face out of the wind, you'll sleep well like I did. Honestly folks, in temperatures in excess of 120F I've gone through a gallon/hr of water (supplemented with electrolytes) when crossing deep sand dessert. Best described...it saps you like kryptonite does to Superman. Within 45 minutes it can have you so exhausted and nauseous you'll be useless within an hour and dead within another two. No one knows the exact circumstances, but I will say if you're not trained and prepared, you're likely to get seriously injured or killed...or get others killed searching for you. It's not a laughing matter. Everyone should be learning from this tragedy. I didn't know the guy or the many others that have died in similar situations. But I will say after being in extreme desserts, the place can be as rewarding as punishing. To those making light of it, you have no idea the suffering and anguish he felt nor the ramifications on those left behind. It's a horrible way to die and extremely frustrating upto the point expiry. Lastly, I'm not going to criticize those making inappropriate comments. Choosing this path alone will lead them to their own special destiny. Besides, to respond in a rude manner is rude in itself. This situation is a tragedy and listas should learn from it. Respectfully, Brian - Who believes Revmaatin most likely would suggest lead by example and follow no fool. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "freediver85032" wrote:
> > After dropping two strait in his UFC comeback and fighting a
longtime
> battle with alcohol, Evan Tanner set's off on a new great adventure > deep into the southern California desert to seek what he calls is > "Treasure". Tanners blog post on SpikeTV details his preparation for > his latest wild adventure, including retrofitting his Kawasaki KLR
for
> the trip. > > I'm hoping that very soon I'll be sitting out in the quiet of
the
> desert beneath a deep blue midnight sky, listening to the calm
desert
> breeze. The idea going into the desert came to me soon after I moved > to Oceanside. It was motivated by my friend Sara's talk of treasure > hunting and lost gold, and my own insatiable appetite for adventure > and exploration. I began to imagine what might be found in the deep > reaches of the untracked desert. It became an obsession of sorts. > > "Treasure" doesn't necessarily refer to something material. > > Being a minimalist by nature, wanting to carry only the > essentials, and being extremely particular, it has been a little > difficult to find just the right equipment. I plan on going so deep > into the desert, that any failure of my equipment, could cost me my
life
> The above (prophetic and sad) text was from a month ago > http://www.cagetoday.com/evan-tanners-biggest-fight-could-be-the-
desert/
> Ride free Brother

Jeff Khoury
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j.c. whitney top case first impression

Post by Jeff Khoury » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:33 am

So, I've been using the J.C. Whitney case a few days and I've had the luck to compare it apples-to-apples with the case it most closely resembles. It seems well-made enough. I compared its construction to my Shad SH-42 on my DL1000 and happily I ran into a guy who had the Givi E460 Monokey case. First, the J.C. Whitney case is almost a direct knockoff of the E460. The design is identical save for 3 points. * The ribbed trim around the back of the case is orange instead of black. * There is no little cover over the top of the handle. * The mounting plate is stamped metal and much simpler. The thickness of the plastic is comparable to the Givi and the Shad. When closed the case is quite rigid but remains flexible enough not to crack if you whack it right hard. The hinge is molded in and has a metal pin, as do the other two "premium" cases. Seems strong enough, although it's not as pretty as on the other two; the plastic is not as neatly trimmed. The case comes with a plastic cord that limits how far open the top will go. While this may be handy I ended up removing it. It exposes what I think is the one weakness of the case which is the back spine (where the hinges are) is flexible and the plastic cord stopper puts a lot of stress on this area. I don't think it is a big deal, but the JCW's flexible plastic moves quite a bit. With the cable removed, it opens up a full 180 degrees and it doesn't appear to put as much stress on the hinge. The latching system is almost identical to the Givi; once again it looks like they just did not spend as much time deburring the edges (where the mold comes together) as they did on the premium cases. The base plate is the biggest area of difference. While the Givi has a thick metal plate with a plastic beauty cover, the JCW's plate is thinner stamped metal with no cover. it seems functional enough, it's just not nearly as attractive. I'd read a few complaints about the case not easily detaching from the base (I've heard they re-designed the base to address the issue). So, to be on the safe side, I smoothed the edges with a needle file and greased all the moving and sliding parts - everything works like buttah. So, there you have it. I think they're an excellent value considering that by the time you buy the Givi or the Shad, plus their bases you could end up spending 3 times the money for essentially the same thing. They come in two sizes: The medium is about a 36L and the large I estimate is a 46L. Actual cash value: $0.02. -Jeff Khoury

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