program)> da Vermonster (then we can move on to the crashing gently portion of the
Have you learned how to do that yet? Walt>
program)> da Vermonster (then we can move on to the crashing gently portion of the
Have you learned how to do that yet? Walt>
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "snowcrash007" wrote: > > Just got my klr at the end of last season and its my first dual sport. I have about 60K on roads but nothing off road/gravel/dirt etc. > > Would any of you more experienced riders have any first timer tips or recommend any good books or you tube videos I can watch over the winter to get the basics down. > > Thanks > > Crash >
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > > da Vermonster (then we can move on to the crashing gently portion of the > program) > > > > Have you learned how to do that yet? > > Walt >
----- Original Message ----- From: "dat brooklyn bum" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 5:00:01 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Learning to ride off road BUSTED!!! No, not really, I still manage to crash spectacularly, I just don't do it as often. da Vermonster --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , wrote: > > > > da Vermonster (then we can move on to the crashing gently portion of the > program) > > > > Have you learned how to do that yet? > > Walt >
Why do you think I take my (at first) 13, now 16 y/o son when I go riding? wink. During our 2010 mini- GDR (top 1/3), Samuel (age 14, 5ft, 12inches, 160#) rode his own KLR650, 2527 miles in 12 days. I told everybody that I brought him along to pick up my bike. Net result: no drops for me. 2 for him. Yes, I helped him pick up his bike. Yes, we had fun. At age 57, remote riding without a wingman has less and less appeal. Shrug. I am remiss; I still need to buy a SPOT so the coyote's don't have to work so hard to find the body. IRT to the dirt rider skills, occasional poster Joe Tittiger came through South Dakota in 2006 on his KLR, and voiced similar concerns about his off-road skills. We loaded up the XR100's and went to the FT. Pierre ORV Park for ~3 hours. I think he would tell you, it is amazing how much you can learn or teach someone in a short span of time if the 'motor-cycle' is not the most difficult part of the equation. Not that this in an original thought One can learn off-road riding on a KLR but there are better, smarter, safer methods of acquiring skill. Remember, if you break something while learning to ride this PIG off road, it will be weeks, months or year + months before you will be riding the KLR again as many on this list will attest. Self included. I only missed 14 weeks of riding. May not sound like much, but 'winter' here can last 30+ weeks so 2006 was a very, very short riding season for me. I have always advocated and still believe the smart money is to buy/beg/borrow something small => > Easier to practice picking up the bike though. And not a bad suggestion before you get yourself into the middle of nowhere. I'd recommend 15-20 reps per day, separating the reps by pushing the bike up a hill for 100 yards or so each time. When you can do that, you won't find yourself out of breath, unable to pick up your bike, and hoping someone will offer assistance in the middle of the forest. Best to try it in the hottest temps available as well, so you get an idea of just how much water you need to carry. And obviously, you will be doing this exercise with ATGATT. ;') > > da Vermonster (then we can move on to the crashing gently portion of the program)
Eric, you should post the link that shows your titanium hardware.... and if you 'insist' on learning on a KLR, do yourself a favor, change the front sprocket to 14T or even a 13T sprocket. You will have a lot more fun without having to slip the clutch all the time with OEM gearing. Note: you will have an increase ~400rpm's for the same MPH. that means at 60 mph on 15/43, you will have 400 more rpm at 60mph with 14/43, ~800 more at 60mph with a 13/43. Remember, most KLR's ran at RPM above 5K will start to consume oil. No big deal, just add at least 10 oz of oil when it reaches the lower level of the sight gauge. of course, bike perpendicular when you 'check' the oil. If you use the 13T, be sure that the wide side of the sprocket collar is against the engine; otherwise, the chain might rub on the bearing-boss and grind off the case. There is enough chain adjustment to allow you to go down to the 13/43 combination without changing the chain length unless your chain is completely worn out. You can get the 13T from Fred. It was not listed in the 'inventory' the last time I looked, but he has them. revmaaatin.> > Money for x-rays...... Lots and lots of x-rays.> > Seat time is the number one thing you need. I also agree with others, the KLR is a tough bike to learn the basics with, no where near as forgiving as a lighter bike. But then, a large majority of what I know now has been done on an XR650R, which actually made riding lighter bikes easier because it was like reverting back to a bicycle. > > The number one thing that helped me learn a lot in a relatively short amount of time was finding some skilled riding buddies to mentor and challenge me. > > But, again, seat time. > > E
> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "snowcrash007" wrote: > > > > Just got my klr at the end of last season and its my first dual sport. I have about 60K on roads but nothing off road/gravel/dirt etc. > > > > Would any of you more experienced riders have any first timer tips or recommend any good books or you tube videos I can watch over the winter to get the basics down. > > > > Thanks > > > > Crash > > >
SNIP> > It s hell when you get older, Rev when s the last time you had your eyes checked?
yeah, yeah, yeah. Last time I looked is when I bought the sprockets. and they weren't listed then. smile. and no. I don't need to have my eyes checked, because when I bought the two 13T sprockets 3-4 years ago, they were not 'listed' then. I do see that Fred heard my suggestion and listed this very useful addition to the KLR arsenal. It is just that I have not been riding enough during the past 20m to spend much time in the Arrowhead store, much to my chagrin. sigh. I hope to change that. and now for a short story-- "Confessions of a KLR Hoarder" Living on the prairie, where it is 47 miles West to the next stop light, and if you go N from my house, you don't see a stoplight for 200 miles! anyway, I bought 'extra' things that most people take for granted that they can get the same day because they live near a dealer, etc. You learn quickly, when you lose a bolt, you buy two and put the extra in a bag, then combat load it into the 'shop'. You need a 13T sprocket? You buy two (yes, from Fred). I moved in July, moved from a very small garage/shop (yes Virginia, I was grateful for a dedicated space with a light bulb) that was a challenging space for storage of spare parts plus all the attendant things that seem to be necessary like weed-eaters, lawnmowers etal.; though I tried hard to stay organized. cough. Think what it might be like to store things in a small sailboat that was going to trans-lent or trans-Pac. You know you need things, so you buy them and store them, "Now where is that 14# of relative bearing grease?" that sort of thing. After arriving in the holy city and Mecca of all v-twins, I began the unpleasant task (still a work in progress) of unpacking the shop stuff and the containers of spares. I noticed I had enough of some things...so there are the spare, spare, spare brake parts. sigh. And a couple of containers of talc. Our new home in Sturgis has more space and more places to hang things on a wall--which then made me the #1 importer of peg board from Menards during Sept. I can now hang some consumables up where they can be seen rather combat loaded in flip top containers tucked away. Well, what do you know? What is in this box? Count'em boys. 11 C/S sprockets of which 1/2 are still new, the rest are all very serviceable in a variety of 13-14-15-16. and still more talc. Why so many? So that I can gear all the bikes equally if all are ridden in the same terrain, sometimes by less than fully experience riders. (see a previous post about the usefulness of variety of sprockets) My justification for all this, I never have been without a spare tube for any motorcycle wheel and at least one set of tires so when you stick a 20p nail (which I did) through the side wall and ruin a tire and shred a tube; you are only 1 hour from being ready to go again vs. 3-5 days of down time. Or rip the valve stem out of a super HD tube in the center of the Black Hills. Fortunately, I had the adult supervision of Judd Jones when hew wasn't talking to the pretty National Forest lady. Believe it or not, she does not have any talc. However I do; it's in the top box. yet I digress. Similarly, I always have a chain and sprocket set ready for installation; because the riding days are so few, (work really gets in the way of meaningful riding) I don't want to ever spend a riding day waiting for something that is known to be a consumable. A side benefit to 'hording' is an additional safety factor. If the bike needs a tire because your tire is going away faster than we thought, the tube really should be replaed, or a sprocket loses its case hardening and fails quickly, it is on the shelf (if you can find it!). In a similar vein-- Many of the readers here have more than one bike--so what is the best 2d bike? For some it is a crotch rocket or just a bigger chrome pig. I have a sport bike as well. wink. It is a KLR 650 with two sets of wheels, the second set skinned with D607 tires. As Jeff Saline said, "It is better to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow." The KLR is fast enough to break bones and kill the unwary rider. truly, Your KLR will kill an accomplished, wary rider as well. What is really nice about keeping the motorcycle fleet to one size and brand, that all the spares are fully interchangeable. cough. and you don't feel obligated to keep it spotless. Shameless plug follows: Even though Fred is pulling my chain, there is none better in the KLR business if you have a question or want a special farkle. He has the fastest mail order turnaround of anyone in the industry. and if you don't see something you need/want, ask. If you are not sure what the proper part for your application is, ask Fred. And he won't sell you any relative bearing grease (RBG). You will have to be looking for Sea Bats before Fred can come close to filling your order for RBG. revmaaatin. who has Arrowhead Sports in the speed dial. I suggest you do the same if you wander very far from civilization.> Fred (20/20 I wish) > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >
On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:54 PM, Jeff Khoury wrote: > I disagree. I thing the most important skill is crashing gently. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bryanonfire" > To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:37:42 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Learning to ride off road > > Based on my experience learning to ride off road, I'd say the most important skill is knowing how to pick the bike up. > > Bryan > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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