de tour 2006 ** day three **

[Charles Earl]

You're correct, someone else comfirmed earlier that it is german for horsepower. Don't know about the 1.1 part, but if that's the case, the 50PS rating would equal 55hp. Interestingly, on the DID box, there is only english and japanese writing. Charles Santa Cruz From: D Critchley I think that "PS" is the standard used in Europe, and is equal to 1.1 HP. If anyone knows better let's hear it. DC __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

[squasher_1]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Charles Earl wrote:

> You're correct, someone else comfirmed earlier that it > is german for horsepower. Don't know about the 1.1 > part, but if that's the case, the 50PS rating would > equal 55hp. Interestingly, on the DID box, there is > only english and japanese writing. > > Charles > Santa Cruz > > From: D Critchley > > > I think that "PS" is the standard used in Europe, > and is equal to > 1.1 HP. If anyone knows better let's hear it. > DC > > >

(I dont think my last post didn't make it to the list) from http://www.onlineconversion.com/power.htm 1 horsepower [international] = 1.0138697 horsepower [metric]

[trevor Irons]

I just got a new RK GXW chain. The chain came with a rivot style connecting link. Has anyone used this chain with a standard clip style connecting link and not this rivot style connecting link. Would I be asking for trouble doing this? Thanks

[Jim]

I installed an RK and have used a clip master link for 12K miles. I did lose a clip once after a rough ride in Death Valley but the connecting link side plate is a press fit so it did not go anywhere and I simply installed one of the spare clips I carry. That said I am about to install a new chain yet again I will go with the the rivet master this time. I did not once remove the previous chain and although I will need to get a chain rivet tool no problem, I like tools. You will need a tool for the clip links also to press fit the side plate. --Jim A-15

> I just got a new RK GXW chain. The chain came with a rivot style

connecting

> link. Has anyone used this chain with a standard clip style

connecting link

> and not this rivot style connecting link. Would I be asking for

trouble

> doing this? > > Thanks

[klr6501995]

GOOP glue on a acetone cleaned sideplate will keep it there for life. Maybe not on rocks. I used to lose them with safety wire, silicone etc. Never lost one 35K mi. Lost 2-3 in the firts 12K. GOOP also works as anti squeal on back of brake pads.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > I installed an RK and have used a clip master link for 12K miles. I > did lose a clip once after a rough ride in Death Valley but the > connecting link side plate is a press fit so it did not go anywhere > and I simply installed one of the spare clips I carry. That said I am > about to install a new chain yet again I will go with the the rivet > master this time. I did not once remove the previous chain and > although I will need to get a chain rivet tool no problem, I like > tools. You will need a tool for the clip links also to press fit the > side plate. > --Jim > A-15 > > > I just got a new RK GXW chain. The chain came with a rivot style > connecting > > link. Has anyone used this chain with a standard clip style > connecting link > > and not this rivot style connecting link. Would I be asking for > trouble > > doing this? > > > > Thanks

[Michael Silverstein]

I just noticed that I'm missing about six rollers on my chain. I'm surprised about this since I only have 16K miles on it and try to keep the chain pretty clean and loose. Anyway, my KLR is my preferred transportation to work and I was wondering if it was ok to still ride around like this while I wait for a new chain to come in and get time to replace it. Also, the sprockets still look pretty good with no sign of "sawtooth" effect. Is replacing them along with the chain an absolute must or only if they are showing wear? Thanks in advance Mike A18 KLR650 tires page: [www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcy ... r650/tires] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Luke in Brooklyn]

Mike-- I've done thousands of miles on chains with missing rollers... I wouldn't sweat it. You're probably doing a little more damage to your sprockets running that way, but you've BEEN running that way so it seems silly to worry about a few extra days. I'm guessing since it's an a18 that you're on your stock chain--if so, 16k isn't bad. I'm of the opinion that a chain's life is hugely affected by its living environment: my bike spends a lot of time in sand and I'm satisfied with 10-12k out of a brand name chain. On my nighthawk, which gets the same (or maybe less) amount/type of care but only sees the street, I get nearly 3 times that. As far as replacing the sprockets, you'll get almost as many opinions about that as about lube. Since you asked, my opinion is to not replace things that seem healthy. Usually my front sprocket can't survive two chains, though, so it's more of a debate there. The rear, though, can easily handle 2+ for me, so there's no way I'm spending good gas/tire money on an unnecessary sprocket chain. Luke --- Michael Silverstein wrote:

> I just noticed that I'm missing about six rollers on > my chain. I'm > surprised about this since I only have 16K miles on > it and try to keep > the chain pretty clean and loose. > > Anyway, my KLR is my preferred transportation to > work and I was > wondering if it was ok to still ride around like > this while I wait for a > new chain to come in and get time to replace it. > Also, the sprockets > still look pretty good with no sign of "sawtooth" > effect. Is replacing > them along with the chain an absolute must or only > if they are showing > wear? > > Thanks in advance > > Mike A18 > KLR650 tires page: >

[www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcy ... r650/tires]

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >

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[Jud Jones]

When my original chain started spitting rollers, I noticed it at about the same time I noticed my sprocket teeth had become as sharp as needles. As a consequence, missing rollers are associated in my mind with trashed sprockets. Whether there is any causal relationship there, I dunno.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" wrote: > > I just noticed that I'm missing about six rollers on my chain. I'm > surprised about this since I only have 16K miles on it and try to keep > the chain pretty clean and loose. > > Anyway, my KLR is my preferred transportation to work and I was > wondering if it was ok to still ride around like this while I wait for a > new chain to come in and get time to replace it. Also, the sprockets > still look pretty good with no sign of "sawtooth" effect. Is replacing > them along with the chain an absolute must or only if they are showing > wear? > > Thanks in advance > > Mike A18 > KLR650 tires page: > [www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcy ... r650/tires] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jeff Saline]

Howdy KLR Listers, It looks like it's time for me to be getting a new chain. I'm currently using a DID Professional O-Ring 520 chain. I haven't gotten the life from it I was hoping for but I have been kind of hard on it the last year. A few times it's been covered in mud and or dust and soaked in water. I've had quite a few tight links and now I'm getting some loose sections. I'm guessing I only have 1,000 -1,500 smiles before I'm gonna really want to replace it. My miles currently are almost 50/50 paved with sportingly ridden twisties and dirt. I'm looking for suggestions on the replacement. Factors I'd appreciate hearing about are brand, model, cost and a suggested supplier if you have a favorite. If you'd like to share how you use and the life your getting from the chain you're suggesting I'd like to hear that too. Thanks for your consideration. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT ____________________________________________________________ Find top brands of quality leather furniture for less. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mU1hDB5lEZsSWcghYTB7soyffOm5aJcHfWCFSqdnfgT9MF2/

[Chris Norloff]

Personally, I don't believe the make or model of chain is important. Get any name-brand o-ring (x-ring, whatever) chain and name-brand sprockets, preferably steel. I believe the most important thing is oiling the chain regularly to clean and lube it. Scott's Oiler, Loobman, and others offer this capability. There are automatic oilers and manual ones - but being able to put oil right on the chain ... especially when it's dirty/muddy or rainy ... is good for the chain. Before I switched to the oiler I used chain lube, but it did little (7-12,000 mi.). Chain wax was better, and I could get 15-20,000 mi. from a chain. With the oiler I haven't even had to adjust a new chain, though I was expecting to need to do a 'break-in' adjustment. Chris -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Saline Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Chain Question Howdy KLR Listers, It looks like it's time for me to be getting a new chain. I'm currently using a DID Professional O-Ring 520 chain. I haven't gotten the life from it I was hoping for but I have been kind of hard on it the last year. A few times it's been covered in mud and or dust and soaked in water. I've had quite a few tight links and now I'm getting some loose sections. I'm guessing I only have 1,000 -1,500 smiles before I'm gonna really want to replace it. My miles currently are almost 50/50 paved with sportingly ridden twisties and dirt. I'm looking for suggestions on the replacement. Factors I'd appreciate hearing about are brand, model, cost and a suggested supplier if you have a favorite. If you'd like to share how you use and the life your getting from the chain you're suggesting I'd like to hear that too. Thanks for your consideration. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT _