[bulk] [dsn_klr650] electric problems w/2001

[CY]

In the middle of a long ride today (NW edge of Great Salt Lake). Stopped for a drink.. Turned the key, pushed the button...small click, then nothing. No start, no horn, no lights. Bump started, ran fine. Lights and horn weak at first, but eventually charged. Stopped again. Strong lights, loud horn. Turned it off. switch on - dead. Didn't touch starter. Any ideas?

[dooden]

Check connections on battery.. would be my first check. Might be just a loosen/dirty connection. Good Luck Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "CY" wrote: > > In the middle of a long ride today (NW edge of Great Salt Lake). Stopped for a drink.. Turned the key, pushed the button...small click, then nothing. No start, no horn, no lights. Bump started, ran fine. Lights and horn weak at first, but eventually charged. Stopped again. Strong lights, loud horn. Turned it off. switch on - dead. Didn't touch starter. > > Any ideas? >

[ron criswell]

That happened to me once way out in the middle of no here. Loose battery connection was the culprit. Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:14 PM, "CY" wrote: > In the middle of a long ride today (NW edge of Great Salt Lake). Stopped for a drink.. Turned the key, pushed the button...small click, then nothing. No start, no horn, no lights. Bump started, ran fine. Lights and horn weak at first, but eventually charged. Stopped again. Strong lights, loud horn. Turned it off. switch on - dead. Didn't touch starter. > > Any ideas? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Marc]

Have an old battery or wet cell type? I got rid of mine wet cell because it would leave me stranded with low cells-no power. all my bikes have AGM batts now. ________________________________ From: CY To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:14 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Electric Problems W/2001 In the middle of a long ride today (NW edge of Great Salt Lake). Stopped for a drink.. Turned the key, pushed the button...small click, then nothing. No start, no horn, no lights. Bump started, ran fine. Lights and horn weak at first, but eventually charged. Stopped again. Strong lights, loud horn. Turned it off. switch on - dead. Didn't touch starter. Any ideas? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Horton Oliphant]

Might be a bad battery. Take the battery out of the bike and charge it with the appropriate battery charger. Next let the battery sit for as long as it normally sits to not work then either reinstall in bike and try to start or put a load on the battery and check the voltage with the load drawing current. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa

On 9/16/2011 10:14 PM, CY wrote: > > In the middle of a long ride today (NW edge of Great Salt Lake). > Stopped for a drink.. Turned the key, pushed the button...small click, > then nothing. No start, no horn, no lights. Bump started, ran fine. > Lights and horn weak at first, but eventually charged. Stopped again. > Strong lights, loud horn. Turned it off. switch on - dead. Didn't > touch starter. > > Any ideas? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[James W. Flower]

CY- This is not exactly like my recent battery problem. When I pushed Start I got either nothing or it started; no weak lights or horn on starting. The smarter kids in class will correct me, but battery? I checked mine the way Jeff Khoury suggested: -Inspect/CheckTighten all connectors on the battery, solenoid and ground. -Check fluid levels in battery (if required). -Charge it on a slow rate overnight. -Take off the charger and let it "rest" for an hour or so. -Check the voltage with a meter (key off). Look for 11.8v or more. -Turn the key on, watch the battery voltage while cranking. If the voltage drops below 10v while cranking, you have a bad battery. -Leave if off the tender/charger and try again the next day to see if the battery will hold the charge. The only extra thing I wish I'd done is do the battery test first thing, then go through the drill, so check for before/after difference. -JWF [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud]

I have gone to AGM, too, but the wet batteries had the virtue of dying slowly, giving you a chance to replace them before they leave you stranded. AGMs typically fail with little or no warning.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Marc wrote: > > Have an old battery or wet cell type? I got rid of mine wet cell because it would leave me stranded with low cells-no power. all my bikes have AGM batts now. > > > > ________________________________ > From: CY > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:14 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Electric Problems W/2001 > > > > In the middle of a long ride today (NW edge of Great Salt Lake). Stopped for a drink.. Turned the key, pushed the button...small click, then nothing. No start, no horn, no lights. Bump started, ran fine. Lights and horn weak at first, but eventually charged. Stopped again. Strong lights, loud horn. Turned it off. switch on - dead. Didn't touch starter. > > Any ideas? > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jud]

If you have a decent volt meter, you can expand on this method without much trouble. Charge the battery and let stand for at least an hour, preferably overnight. A healthy battery will hold a charge of 12.6-12.8 volts, measured across the terminals. If you now load the battery by cranking the starter, the voltage should not go below about 10 v. Leave the meter in place to check your charging system. Voltage at idle will be in the neighborhood of 13.1 volts, and should rise with revs until the regulator cuts it off at 14.something, at which point it will level off or fall away.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Horton Oliphant wrote: > > Might be a bad battery. Take the battery out of the bike and charge it > with the appropriate battery charger. Next let the battery sit for as > long as it normally sits to not work then either reinstall in bike and > try to start or put a load on the battery and check the voltage with the > load drawing current. > Alan Henderson A13 Iowa > > On 9/16/2011 10:14 PM, CY wrote: > > > > In the middle of a long ride today (NW edge of Great Salt Lake). > > Stopped for a drink.. Turned the key, pushed the button...small click, > > then nothing. No start, no horn, no lights. Bump started, ran fine. > > Lights and horn weak at first, but eventually charged. Stopped again. > > Strong lights, loud horn. Turned it off. switch on - dead. Didn't > > touch starter. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[GMac]

James, My '95 was doing the same thing. I found it was an intermittent clutch switch. I bypassed my clutch and side stand and I missed the earlier emails, so I don't know if your switches are bypassed or not. Greg McKinney CKCS Cavalier Rescue USA AR, Northern MS, and TN www.cavalierrescueusa.com gmac999@... -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James W. Flower Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:59 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Electric Problems W/2001 CY- This is not exactly like my recent battery problem. When I pushed Start I got either nothing or it started; no weak lights or horn on starting. The smarter kids in class will correct me, but battery? I checked mine the way Jeff Khoury suggested: -Inspect/CheckTighten all connectors on the battery, solenoid and ground. -Check fluid levels in battery (if required). -Charge it on a slow rate overnight. -Take off the charger and let it "rest" for an hour or so. -Check the voltage with a meter (key off). Look for 11.8v or more. -Turn the key on, watch the battery voltage while cranking. If the voltage drops below 10v while cranking, you have a bad battery. -Leave if off the tender/charger and try again the next day to see if the battery will hold the charge. The only extra thing I wish I'd done is do the battery test first thing, then go through the drill, so check for before/after difference. -JWF [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links

[James W. Flower]

Greg- The smart kids in this group helped me figure out that the female side of the plug on my starter relay was getting sloppy. I cleaned and greased the plugs. I put a zip tie around the two halves when I plugged them back together, and secured the whole thing so it might vibrate less. I'm going to replace the plug. The clutch "safety" was already disabled, and I disabled the sidestand "safety" while I was messing with this problem. You know how the starter circuit relay mounts to a bracket that holds it, a piece of the Cal smog equipment, and the mounting hole lug for the sidestand switch cover? The smog thingy was already gone (along with the rest of that system), so I took out the starter circuit relay and cut off all of that bracket except the cover mount lug. That made room for two blade fuses under that cover instead, replacing the glass ones under the seat. This group is so great. There are a few other KLRs around my fairly small community, but I haven't been able to get a local group going. So I really appreciate the online community. -James

On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:41 PM, GMac wrote: > James, My '95 was doing the same thing. I found it was an intermittent > clutch switch. I bypassed my clutch and side stand and I missed the earlier > emails, so I don't know if your switches are bypassed or not. > > Greg McKinney > CKCS Cavalier Rescue USA > AR, Northern MS, and TN > www.cavalierrescueusa.com > gmac999@... > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of James W. Flower > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:59 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Electric Problems W/2001 > > CY- This is not exactly like my recent battery problem. When I pushed > Start I got either nothing or it started; no weak lights or horn on > starting. The smarter kids in class will correct me, but battery? I > checked mine the way Jeff Khoury suggested: > > -Inspect/CheckTighten all connectors on the battery, solenoid and ground. > -Check fluid levels in battery (if required). > -Charge it on a slow rate overnight. > -Take off the charger and let it "rest" for an hour or so. > -Check the voltage with a meter (key off). Look for 11.8v or more. > -Turn the key on, watch the battery voltage while cranking. If the voltage > drops below 10v while cranking, you have a bad battery. > -Leave if off the tender/charger and try again the next day to see if the > battery will hold the charge. > > The only extra thing I wish I'd done is do the battery test first > thing, then go through the drill, so check for before/after difference. > -JWF > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links > > >