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[RobertWichert]

I think that there is a clutch switch that will let you start in any gear if the clutch is pulled in, but on my bike it doesn't always work. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 6/17/2011 10:44 AM, Joe wrote: > > I recently bought an unmodified 2006 KLR. ( I sold my other highly > farkeled KLR when I moved from FL to MO - what a mistake!) > > Anyhow yesterday I took a left off the 4 lane here and had to cross > oncoming traffic from the other direction. I waited until there was no > traffic and right in the middle the 2 lane the bike stalls! I tried to > start it with the starter button. -- Nothing happens -- > > It was just about then that I saw an 18 wheeler rounding the curve to > my right. It finally dawned on the that this god-forsaken POS had to > be put into neutral before it would start. Well as you can guess when > you are rushed it did not go into neural. As I was thinking of getting > off the bike and running for the other side of the highway I was > thinking of how much I appreciated the Federal busy bodies that had > gone to such extremes to protect me. In fact I wished that person was > on the back of the bike so that they could observe how well their > meddling had worked. The other thoughts I had I will not publish here > as I am sure they would make most of you blush. > > Anyhow I am alive because I am posting. > Now my highest priority is getting these dangerous factory devices off > of the bike. > > The kick stand safety is easy to bypass as I recall. There is a clutch > safety to bypass also. What I don't recall is if bypassing these 2 > will allow the bike to start in any gear? > > Thanks! > > Joe in Missouri > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[k650@verizon.net]

The easiest way would be to unplug the wire harness from the clutch switch (this needs to be done so the neutral light functions properly after you finish below). It is under the gauges on the left side. You may have to remove the gauge assembly to access it. Nothing else need be done here just leave unplugged or if you wish put some dielectric grease in the plugs and tap up to avoid corrosion so it could be put back(but why would you?). Or you could remove the short wire and switch from the clutch lever. Unplug the wire harness from the kickstand switch. On the bike end either splice those two wires together or make a jumper cable. (an alternative is to do nothing with these wires and instead attach the blue wire you are told to ignore in the step below to ground). Secure as above. Here you could also remove the cable and the switch but will need to us an alternate method to reattach the cover if you remove the switch. Last step above where you were just working there is a relay called the starter circuit relay. Remove this relay. Do not throw away. Save it as it is the same as your fan relay should you ever need it. There are four wires to the plug where the relay was you removed. I don't recall all the exact colors but one is blue that one you ignore. Two are the same color (I think maybe yellow with a red stripe?) connect one of those to the remaining wire with either a spice or jumper wire and secure as done above. That is it to bypass the clutch and kickstand safety switches. Make sure you are in neutral or the clutch is pulled in and the kickstand is up were appropriate. Now you can even start in gear if the clutch cable breaks to get home. Walt -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 13:45 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] A new reason to bypass KLR "saftey" switches or how the Feds tried to kill me. I recently bought an unmodified 2006 KLR. ( I sold my other highly farkeled KLR when I moved from FL to MO - what a mistake!) Anyhow yesterday I took a left off the 4 lane here and had to cross oncoming traffic from the other direction. I waited until there was no traffic and right in the middle the 2 lane the bike stalls! I tried to start it with the starter button. -- Nothing happens -- It was just about then that I saw an 18 wheeler rounding the curve to my right. It finally dawned on the that this god-forsaken POS had to be put into neutral before it would start. Well as you can guess when you are rushed it did not go into neural. As I was thinking of getting off the bike and running for the other side of the highway I was thinking of how much I appreciated the Federal busy bodies that had gone to such extremes to protect me. In fact I wished that person was on the back of the bike so that they could observe how well their meddling had worked. The other thoughts I had I will not publish here as I am sure they would make most of you blush. Anyhow I am alive because I am posting. Now my highest priority is getting these dangerous factory devices off of the bike. The kick stand safety is easy to bypass as I recall. There is a clutch safety to bypass also. What I don't recall is if bypassing these 2 will allow the bike to start in any gear? Thanks! Joe in Missouri ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links

[Mike Huber]

I've done all the bypasses to my 06 and don't regret it at all....On page 201 of the Clymer manual it shows a diagram of the starter system.....The kickstand bypass is easy...unplug it and tie the 2 wires back together...The neutral and clutch are bypassed at the starter lockout switch (clutch switch) by cutting the black/yellow and blue/red wires and tieing them together....This can also be done under the wiring cover behind the speedo..... Good luck.... Mike Huber Carlsbad, NM To: tittiger@... CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: robert@... Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:09:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] A new reason to bypass KLR "saftey" switches or how the Feds tried to kill me. I think that there is a clutch switch that will let you start in any gear if the clutch is pulled in, but on my bike it doesn't always work. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 6/17/2011 10:44 AM, Joe wrote: > > I recently bought an unmodified 2006 KLR. ( I sold my other highly > farkeled KLR when I moved from FL to MO - what a mistake!) > > Anyhow yesterday I took a left off the 4 lane here and had to cross > oncoming traffic from the other direction. I waited until there was no > traffic and right in the middle the 2 lane the bike stalls! I tried to > start it with the starter button. -- Nothing happens -- > > It was just about then that I saw an 18 wheeler rounding the curve to > my right. It finally dawned on the that this god-forsaken POS had to > be put into neutral before it would start. Well as you can guess when > you are rushed it did not go into neural. As I was thinking of getting > off the bike and running for the other side of the highway I was > thinking of how much I appreciated the Federal busy bodies that had > gone to such extremes to protect me. In fact I wished that person was > on the back of the bike so that they could observe how well their > meddling had worked. The other thoughts I had I will not publish here > as I am sure they would make most of you blush. > > Anyhow I am alive because I am posting. > Now my highest priority is getting these dangerous factory devices off > of the bike. > > The kick stand safety is easy to bypass as I recall. There is a clutch > safety to bypass also. What I don't recall is if bypassing these 2 > will allow the bike to start in any gear? > > Thanks! > > Joe in Missouri > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[k650@verizon.net]

This method work too except you are relying on the starter circuit relay to complete the circuit to the clutch lever switch. (Also the bypass at the handlebars takes care of any situation where you would need to also bypass at the kickstand so that becomes redundant). Should the relay fail so does the bypass. Better to eliminate the relay. See my recent post in this topic. Walt -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Huber Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 14:33 To: robert@...; tittiger@... Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] A new reason to bypass KLR "saftey" switches or how the Feds tried to kill me. I've done all the bypasses to my 06 and don't regret it at all....On page 201 of the Clymer manual it shows a diagram of the starter system.....The kickstand bypass is easy...unplug it and tie the 2 wires back together...The neutral and clutch are bypassed at the starter lockout switch (clutch switch) by cutting the black/yellow and blue/red wires and tieing them together....This can also be done under the wiring cover behind the speedo..... Good luck.... Mike Huber Carlsbad, NM

[k650@verizon.net]

Actually in theory the simplest way to bypass would be to remove the diode trio and ground the wire from the ignition module that went to the diode trio. That is it but in practice I don't think anyone ever did it this way since it is such a PITA to get into there to do it. Walt

[Jeff Khoury]

I disabled mine "the simple way" shortly after I bought the bike. I cut the wires off the two switches, soldered them together, insulated them and zip tied them back up out of the way. I completely removed the sidestand switch. My reason didn't have to do with traffic, but with a particularly steep and sandy hill. I was in the process of climbing the steep side of a wash when the bike bogged and died. I'm halfway up and the only thing holding me there was the somewhat dug-in rear tire and the front brake. *%#$ing bike would not start in gear and I couldn't get enough balance to get my foot up to find neutral without falling over. I ended up sliding the bike backward down the hill dragging the front brake as a foil, cursing the whole way down. I decided that getting stuck like that again was way more dangerous than any possibility of accidentally trying to start the bike in gear. Besides, part of my 25-odd year old mental startup checklist involves double-checking the neutral light before mashing the starter button anyway. Killswitch, key, green light, go. At least that's what my mind says every time I jump on. I still have to take a second on the Suzuki to remember to grab the clutch too. -Jeff Khoury From: "Joe" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:44:36 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] A new reason to bypass KLR "saftey" switches or how the Feds tried to kill me. I recently bought an unmodified 2006 KLR. ( I sold my other highly farkeled KLR when I moved from FL to MO - what a mistake!) Anyhow yesterday I took a left off the 4 lane here and had to cross oncoming traffic from the other direction. I waited until there was no traffic and right in the middle the 2 lane the bike stalls! I tried to start it with the starter button. -- Nothing happens -- It was just about then that I saw an 18 wheeler rounding the curve to my right. It finally dawned on the that this god-forsaken POS had to be put into neutral before it would start. Well as you can guess when you are rushed it did not go into neural. As I was thinking of getting off the bike and running for the other side of the highway I was thinking of how much I appreciated the Federal busy bodies that had gone to such extremes to protect me. In fact I wished that person was on the back of the bike so that they could observe how well their meddling had worked. The other thoughts I had I will not publish here as I am sure they would make most of you blush. Anyhow I am alive because I am posting. Now my highest priority is getting these dangerous factory devices off of the bike. The kick stand safety is easy to bypass as I recall. There is a clutch safety to bypass also. What I don't recall is if bypassing these 2 will allow the bike to start in any gear? Thanks! Joe in Missouri [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Eric J Foster]

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On 6/17/2011 10:27 PM, Russell Scott wrote: > > Great video from High Point National. Really captures the speed. One > of the best I've seen. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWJpOC-78Jk&feature=related > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWJpOC-78Jk&feature=related> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]