seat discussion

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote:

> ~~~seat on the 08 was herald (by some) as an improvement over previous models. my 08' was my only klr so I can't confirm but, I have ridden close to 500 (slab) miles on several occasions using the oem 08' seat and yeah, it's pretty bad. 350 miles is doable but anymore than that w/o some modification and you're in for sore ass > > > some claim the ld comfort shorts are good for slab riding. i dunno, never tried them > > > Jake

Jake- I have concluded that those ~170# and less seem to get along just fine with the OEM seat (could be the break even point is at 160#/150#, but you get the picture). My 15 year old son at 150# likes his 2001 OEM seat just fine for 300 mile days. ME, after 45 minutes, I am starting to get uncomfortable. The Gen I OEM seat allows me to touch the ground just fine; it is the pits @ 190# body weight (before I put on ATGATT riding costume). At this body weight, it seems that I am riding directly on the seat pan with my hip's 'pin bones'. One additional data point: I rode the 1997 KLR250 OEM seat 1750 miles in 5 days and that was tolerable when it was covered with a sheepskin pad. In my KLR650 inventory: I have a Corbin Flat, a Corbin dip, a Gen I OEM and a recently a 2008 OEM Gen II seat that I will try. I like the Corbin for different reasons; I equally dislike them for ~ the same reasons! The dip seat creates hot spots on the pin bones but I have 'premium' control of the bike when stopped = ideal when riding a fully laden bike. The Flat is wonderful for ride comfort, but is almost impossible for me (shrinking old man) to have good ground contact when stopped; WORSE on a laden bike. sad tear to follow. IMO: The CORBIN designer made the seat to wide at the tank/groin interface and consequently, legs just long enough for OEM seats are now to short with a Corbin Flat seat installed. This is not just my observation, but also of most every person that was barely the right inseam for the OEM seat and switched to the Corbin Flat seat. The only seat mentioned above that I have not ridden extensively is the 2008 Gen II seat which I will give it my first ride Thursday for 200+ miles and then return on Friday. LIST/Others: please comment if you find the OEM seat useful/ueable and how much you weigh. Film at 11. revmaaatin.

[Jeff Khoury]

My '09 stock seat gives me a major hotspot on my tailbone. It's just plain too soft. The addition of the wal-mart seat cover helps a lot if I keep moving around. -Jeff Khoury From: "revmaaatin" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:51:01 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Wazz B. A$$ Biker, NOW = Seat Discussion

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > ~~~seat on the 08 was herald (by some) as an improvement over previous models. my 08' was my only klr so I can't confirm but, I have ridden close to 500 (slab) miles on several occasions using the oem 08' seat and yeah, it's pretty bad. 350 miles is doable but anymore than that w/o some modification and you're in for sore ass > > > some claim the ld comfort shorts are good for slab riding. i dunno, never tried them > > > Jake Jake- I have concluded that those ~170# and less seem to get along just fine with the OEM seat (could be the break even point is at 160#/150#, but you get the picture). My 15 year old son at 150# likes his 2001 OEM seat just fine for 300 mile days. ME, after 45 minutes, I am starting to get uncomfortable. The Gen I OEM seat allows me to touch the ground just fine; it is the pits @ 190# body weight (before I put on ATGATT riding costume). At this body weight, it seems that I am riding directly on the seat pan with my hip's 'pin bones'. One additional data point: I rode the 1997 KLR250 OEM seat 1750 miles in 5 days and that was tolerable when it was covered with a sheepskin pad. In my KLR650 inventory: I have a Corbin Flat, a Corbin dip, a Gen I OEM and a recently a 2008 OEM Gen II seat that I will try. I like the Corbin for different reasons; I equally dislike them for ~ the same reasons! The dip seat creates hot spots on the pin bones but I have 'premium' control of the bike when stopped = ideal when riding a fully laden bike. The Flat is wonderful for ride comfort, but is almost impossible for me (shrinking old man) to have good ground contact when stopped; WORSE on a laden bike. sad tear to follow. IMO: The CORBIN designer made the seat to wide at the tank/groin interface and consequently, legs just long enough for OEM seats are now to short with a Corbin Flat seat installed. This is not just my observation, but also of most every person that was barely the right inseam for the OEM seat and switched to the Corbin Flat seat. The only seat mentioned above that I have not ridden extensively is the 2008 Gen II seat which I will give it my first ride Thursday for 200+ miles and then return on Friday. LIST/Others: please comment if you find the OEM seat useful/ueable and how much you weigh. Film at 11. revmaaatin. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

Oh, and I vary between 175-180 -Jeff Khoury From: "revmaaatin" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:51:01 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Wazz B. A$$ Biker, NOW = Seat Discussion

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > ~~~seat on the 08 was herald (by some) as an improvement over previous models. my 08' was my only klr so I can't confirm but, I have ridden close to 500 (slab) miles on several occasions using the oem 08' seat and yeah, it's pretty bad. 350 miles is doable but anymore than that w/o some modification and you're in for sore ass > > > some claim the ld comfort shorts are good for slab riding. i dunno, never tried them > > > Jake Jake- I have concluded that those ~170# and less seem to get along just fine with the OEM seat (could be the break even point is at 160#/150#, but you get the picture). My 15 year old son at 150# likes his 2001 OEM seat just fine for 300 mile days. ME, after 45 minutes, I am starting to get uncomfortable. The Gen I OEM seat allows me to touch the ground just fine; it is the pits @ 190# body weight (before I put on ATGATT riding costume). At this body weight, it seems that I am riding directly on the seat pan with my hip's 'pin bones'. One additional data point: I rode the 1997 KLR250 OEM seat 1750 miles in 5 days and that was tolerable when it was covered with a sheepskin pad. In my KLR650 inventory: I have a Corbin Flat, a Corbin dip, a Gen I OEM and a recently a 2008 OEM Gen II seat that I will try. I like the Corbin for different reasons; I equally dislike them for ~ the same reasons! The dip seat creates hot spots on the pin bones but I have 'premium' control of the bike when stopped = ideal when riding a fully laden bike. The Flat is wonderful for ride comfort, but is almost impossible for me (shrinking old man) to have good ground contact when stopped; WORSE on a laden bike. sad tear to follow. IMO: The CORBIN designer made the seat to wide at the tank/groin interface and consequently, legs just long enough for OEM seats are now to short with a Corbin Flat seat installed. This is not just my observation, but also of most every person that was barely the right inseam for the OEM seat and switched to the Corbin Flat seat. The only seat mentioned above that I have not ridden extensively is the 2008 Gen II seat which I will give it my first ride Thursday for 200+ miles and then return on Friday. LIST/Others: please comment if you find the OEM seat useful/ueable and how much you weigh. Film at 11. revmaaatin. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[sh8knj8kster]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > > ~~~seat on the 08 was herald (by some) as an improvement over previous models. my 08' was my only klr so I can't confirm but, I have ridden close to 500 (slab) miles on several occasions using the oem 08' seat and yeah, it's pretty bad. 350 miles is doable but anymore than that w/o some modification and you're in for sore ass > > > > > > some claim the ld comfort shorts are good for slab riding. i dunno, never tried them > > > > > > Jake > > Jake- > I have concluded that those ~170# and less seem to get along just fine with the OEM seat (could be the break even point is at 160#/150#, but you get the picture). My 15 year old son at 150# likes his 2001 OEM seat just fine for 300 mile days. ME, after 45 minutes, I am starting to get uncomfortable. > > The Gen I OEM seat allows me to touch the ground just fine; it is the pits @ 190# body weight (before I put on ATGATT riding costume). At this body weight, it seems that I am riding directly on the seat pan with my hip's 'pin bones'. > > One additional data point: > I rode the 1997 KLR250 OEM seat 1750 miles in 5 days and that was tolerable when it was covered with a sheepskin pad. > > In my KLR650 inventory: > I have a Corbin Flat, a Corbin dip, a Gen I OEM and a recently a 2008 OEM Gen II seat that I will try. > > I like the Corbin for different reasons; I equally dislike them for ~ the same reasons! The dip seat creates hot spots on the pin bones but I have 'premium' control of the bike when stopped = ideal when riding a fully laden bike. > The Flat is wonderful for ride comfort, but is almost impossible for me (shrinking old man) to have good ground contact when stopped; WORSE on a laden bike. sad tear to follow. > > IMO: The CORBIN designer made the seat to wide at the tank/groin interface and consequently, legs just long enough for OEM seats are now to short with a Corbin Flat seat installed. This is not just my observation, but also of most every person that was barely the right inseam for the OEM seat and switched to the Corbin Flat seat. > > The only seat mentioned above that I have not ridden extensively is the 2008 Gen II seat which I will give it my first ride Thursday for 200+ miles and then return on Friday. > > LIST/Others: please comment if you find the OEM seat useful/ueable and how much you weigh. > > Film at 11. > revmaaatin. >

~~~Rev, When I was riding slab with my 08' KLR, I routinely weighed 275 + lbs. If I drank a lot of beer that week, then 285=:-) I haven't touched beer (court ordered, wifey is the judge=:-) since last July, subsequently i weigh less. I got down to 230 lbs but I've put 10 more back on so I'm at a steady 240 lbs Anyways, I'm sure my fat ass weighed in heavily (pun intended=:-) on how uncomfortable that seat was. The less you weigh, the less the seat has to support, but most oem seats don't work for the majority of riders when it comes to LD work. Usually not wide nor supportive enough. Exceptions abound and your good friend Jeff Saline is one of them. I recall Jeff telling me he has no problem with the oem KLR saddle I had the oem saddle on my 950 A rebuilt this past spring by XPC Racing in CA. I can't really attest to it's LD worthiness as I haven't ridden it any further than to JAX and back, about 2 hours one way from here, but it is much better than the oem seat on that bike. KLR saddles, the one good point about them for me, they have always offered good height but the adventure series saddles (ktm) are all too low for me which is why I ahd mine re-done. Firt time I rode one I knew less than 2 miles into the ride the seat in stock form had to go...it just doesn't have enough height for me (my inseam is 32"). Their R or S model is perfect in saddle height, for me, and so is their super enduro but I don't own/ride either of those Jake Reddick Fla. Information is free at the library. Bring your own container. -Anon http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04

[dat brooklyn bum]

I weigh a paltry 1/8 of a ton. I have used a dished Corbin, which I actually found pretty comfortable, but the dish was too much for 6'1" frame and I found myself sliding forward into a true tank slapper too many times. I've also tried the Saddlemen Travelcade dual sport seat with gel insert and it's actually just a bit too firm. Probably a great seat if you're upwards of 275 lbs. I'm now back to stock with a sheepskin and/or Walmart pad depending on the situation. I find that if I ride good roads with nice twists and turns, or bad roads with lots of pea gravel, I'm just fine. Moving around at every turn helps alleviate the pressure points. For long distance superslabbing, the stocker is torture. I find myself dreaming of a Renazco... da Vermonster

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > LIST/Others: please comment if you find the OEM seat useful/ueable > and how much you weigh.

[mark ward]

SWEATY MONKEY BUTT On the K1200lt I have the DELUXE comfort seat, (factory, Extra padding) BUTT while the K1200 works well to sheild you from the cold on cooler days, you get NO!!! breeze on warm & HOT days, so I have to stand fairy often on hot days, to dry out a little. Like Jeff said the MESH ride gear helps alot, I have to stand up less when I wear the Mesh. I wear nylon boating pants from Cabelas, gander etc. with the legs zipped off, (so shorts) under them, since the Ride gear gives the protection, BETTER THEN HOT JEANS.

--- On Wed, 6/8/11, Jeff Saline wrote: From: Jeff Saline Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Seat Discussion To: sh8knj8k@..., mjearl@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 12:42 PM On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 06:29:52 -0000 "sh8knj8kster" writes: SNIP > Anyways, I'm sure my fat ass weighed in heavily (pun intended=:-) on > how uncomfortable that seat was. The less you weigh, the less the > seat has to support, but most oem seats don't work for the majority > of riders when it comes to LD work. Usually not wide nor supportive > enough. Exceptions abound and your good friend Jeff Saline is one > of them. I recall Jeff telling me he has no problem with the oem > KLR saddle <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> Jake, Martin, That's correct. The stock seat on my 03 KLR650 is fine for me. Longest day so far was 812 smiles on that seat. I did have to stand on the pegs a few times to air my butt, but I think I would have had to do that on any seat. I'm 5' 9" and weigh about 170. I think I might have been a few pounds lighter on that ride as it was at the end of De Tour and about 18 days of touring. I think having clothes with no seams or seams in the right places can make a world of difference in comfort. Same for having riding gear that breaths. I get asked often at work (test riding for the local Harley dealer) if I'm not hot in my riding gear. I tell them I'm probably more comfortable than they are as the gear is mesh and allows cooling by evaporation. The other day after tossing about 30 tires I was a little sweaty. Temp was just about 90 degrees F. I jumped on a couple of bikes to test and was a bit too cool from the evaporation. Almost had to stop to warm up. I think regular exercise and being in fair physical shape has a lot to do with riding comfort. Avoiding trapping body moisture is also important. If you start getting sweaty inside your riding gear or your butt gets sweaty it's time to stop and air out. Maybe that's just standing on the pegs so your butt gets some fresh air or maybe that means a short stop. When I stop I usually remove my riding pants and make sure I air out. Cotton traps moisture and that makes me uncomfortable. Bicycle type shorts work pretty well for riding longer distances. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . . __________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]