bike hauling now aerial refueling--shrug

[cycletip]

No one said anything about the bags. Anyone tried them? Wonder about durability and clearance on the exhaust side? They look decent for soft luggage IMHO.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote: > > Anyone know anything about "Fisher seats & D.S. saddle bags"? >

[Jud]

Very interesting, but I didn't find any prices. Like tires, and a lot of other things, it is impossible to evaluate them without knowing how much they cost.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cycletip" wrote: > > No one said anything about the bags. Anyone tried them? Wonder about durability and clearance on the exhaust side? They look decent for soft luggage IMHO. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote: > > > > Anyone know anything about "Fisher seats & D.S. saddle bags"? > > >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote:

> > I had NO IDEA that it was possible to refuel a helo from a tanker. Did > the tanker have to put on the brakes, or what? >

LIST: If there was any real KLR discussion, I would have let this go.... KLR-Traffic is light, sigh. How bad is it here? in the frozen middle? I was so desperate to talk about KLR's-- that today, the KLR Clymer manual was used for a prop in today's message! Robert --not only do they aerial refuel helicopters, it is done at night as well. Night A/R is the 2d scariest thing I have ever done--teaching a 'nugget' pilot to A/R at night is worse. It is not particularly difficult if you do it often. Refuel quals are an annual event--and to be safe, you should be doing it monthly. The infrequency of training makes it scary.... Bear with me- It has been 19 years since I last did this--so exact details maybe slightly askew.... It has been a while, but I believe we did it at 110 kts; Somewhere I might a CH-53E NATOPS manual--but what I remember is that the C-130 goes to full flaps, dragging a hose and basket below the wing at ~100 ft of hose. Helo refueling is referred to as a 'plug and drouge'system. The receiving aircraft has the 4" coupler/knob attached to a http://www.aviationspectator.com/resources/aircraft-profiles/ch-53e-super-stallion-helicopter-aircraft-profile That day we were going to Tel-Aviv: It was a JCS-directed mission; in the course of A/R-ing and the other aircraft could not 'plug'. After several attempts, we were now both below bingo fuel. sigh. I was the copilot for 'cool-hand-Luke' XO Bob Payne-- Our aircraft got fuel on the first pass--so we knew we were not going swimming. In the other aircraft, the copilot made a cross cockpit approach (even harder to do) and got fuel on the first attempt. It happens; performance anxiety. shrug. It made for some very tense moments. = adventure. almost to much adventure for them. In their defense, normally, we did this at 1000-3000 ft, but today, the overcast pushed us down to