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[Jud]

Yah, I keep my tire tools apart from my tubes, too, for the same reason. I keep my baby powder in the can until I need it, so I don't get baby powder all over in my luggage. I use it to lubricate beads, dust tubes, and to dust my butt on a hot day.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote: > > I don't keep the tube with the tools, Why? VIBRATION, things rub against the tube and wear a weak spot into it, So I keep it seperate. > > While I do carry extra tools He is RIGHT, YES tools are easyer to come by the tubes (Parts), Last spring My clutch cable broke, we had tools to change it, but not enought to fix it untill I could get a new one. there were 16 of us on a trip. LUCKY there was a fire station near by and they offord to let me use there vise and they had some small nuts, and a grinder. EASY FIX, BUT I can tell you now I'm not going to carry a grinder on the bike, theres too many farmers ect. that have them for use if POLITE! > > Travel Safe! Travel Well! > > --- On Mon, 1/24/11, RobertWichert wrote: > > > From: RobertWichert > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spare Tubes > To: "spike55_bmw" > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 3:17 PM > > > > > > > You're right, Don, and I do carry tools, but actually tools are easier > to come by than tubes! > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > ======================================================== > > On 1/24/2011 4:26 AM, spike55_bmw wrote: > > > > Rbt: > > Wouldn't it be a good idea to keep the spare tubes (I precoat mine in > > baby powder so they spread out evenly upon re-inflation) with the tire > > irons, patch kit, wrenches to remove either axle nut, and the small > > stripped down DC electric air pump? > > > > Seems like only carrying spare tubes doesn't solve the problem unless > > you're riding with someone else that has this other gear. > > > > I also doubt that you'd be able to apply 70+ ft-lbs of torque on the > > rear wheel nut while using the OEM tool kit wrenches. That's why I > > carry some heavier tools. > > > > This requires an investment in more extensive luggage system. All of > > my tire tools and chain lube, etc are in tank panniers. No matter how > > much stuff you have packed on the bike for a trip, the panniers / > > tools / lube are accessible. Plus it distributes some of that weight > > forward rather than having everything on the back wheel including > > yourself. > > > > I adopted this weight distribution idea after returning from a 2,500 > > mile trip where I started out with brand new tires. Since all of the > > weight was on the rear of the bike, the flimsy flap of rubber down the > > center of the new front tire was still intact upon my return. > > > > With the weight distribution scheme, the bike tracks better on the > > highway and is less susceptible wobble at speed or from passing > > tractor trailers. > > > > The Wolfman tank paniers are not free of problems though. I'm 6'3" and > > I need them as far forward as I can get them so I can pull my knees in > > against the tank. The straps that pull them forward cross over the > > tank shrouds (cover radiator and overflow tank). The decals get chewed > > up over time. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > , RobertWichert wrote: > > > > > > Does anybody have a favorite way to carry spare tubes? I keep them > > > lashed to the outside of my tailbag, but they get old and crack and > > they > > > take up space in the tailbag by pushing the sides in. Any ideas out > > there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > > > +1 916 966 9060 > > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[RobertWichert]

Yes, Mark. I agree. People will help you, they may have a welder, but they don't all have Kawasaki parts bins! Ha! Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================

On 1/24/2011 7:39 AM, mark ward wrote: > I don't keep the tube with the tools, Why? VIBRATION, things rub > against the tube and wear a weak spot into it, So I keep it seperate. > While I do carry extra tools He is RIGHT, YES tools are easyer to come > by the tubes (Parts), Last spring My clutch cable broke, we had tools > to change it, but not enought to fix it untill I could get a new one. > there were 16 of us on a trip. LUCKY there was a fire station near by > and they offord to let me use there vise and they had some small nuts, > and a grinder. EASY FIX, BUT I can tell you now I'm not going to carry > a grinder on the bike, theres too many farmers ect. that have them for > use if POLITE! > Travel Safe! Travel Well! > > --- On *Mon, 1/24/11, RobertWichert //* wrote: > > > From: RobertWichert > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spare Tubes > To: "spike55_bmw" > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 3:17 PM > > You're right, Don, and I do carry tools, but actually tools are > easier > to come by than tubes! > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > ======================================================== > > On 1/24/2011 4:26 AM, spike55_bmw wrote: > > > > Rbt: > > Wouldn't it be a good idea to keep the spare tubes (I precoat > mine in > > baby powder so they spread out evenly upon re-inflation) with > the tire > > irons, patch kit, wrenches to remove either axle nut, and the small > > stripped down DC electric air pump? > > > > Seems like only carrying spare tubes doesn't solve the problem > unless > > you're riding with someone else that has this other gear. > > > > I also doubt that you'd be able to apply 70+ ft-lbs of torque on > the > > rear wheel nut while using the OEM tool kit wrenches. That's why I > > carry some heavier tools. > > > > This requires an investment in more extensive luggage system. > All of > > my tire tools and chain lube, etc are in tank panniers. No > matter how > > much stuff you have packed on the bike for a trip, the panniers / > > tools / lube are accessible. Plus it distributes some of that > weight > > forward rather than having everything on the back wheel including > > yourself. > > > > I adopted this weight distribution idea after returning from a > 2,500 > > mile trip where I started out with brand new tires. Since all of > the > > weight was on the rear of the bike, the flimsy flap of rubber > down the > > center of the new front tire was still intact upon my return. > > > > With the weight distribution scheme, the bike tracks better on the > > highway and is less susceptible wobble at speed or from passing > > tractor trailers. > > > > The Wolfman tank paniers are not free of problems though. I'm > 6'3" and > > I need them as far forward as I can get them so I can pull my > knees in > > against the tank. The straps that pull them forward cross over the > > tank shrouds (cover radiator and overflow tank). The decals get > chewed > > up over time. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > http://us.mc814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> > > > , RobertWichert > wrote: > > > > > > Does anybody have a favorite way to carry spare tubes? I keep them > > > lashed to the outside of my tailbag, but they get old and > crack and > > they > > > take up space in the tailbag by pushing the sides in. Any > ideas out > > there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > > > +1 916 966 9060 > > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[W.V. Doran]

I use Chase Harper Barrel Bags attached to the sub-frame resting on the passenger pegs. Tools in one... tubes in the other. http://www.chaseharper.com/TailTrunks/TailTrunks.htm?al=10300&fr=10300.htm WVDoran Scottsdale, AZ

--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Jud wrote: From: Jud Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spare Tubes To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 6:35 PM Either in a fender bag or a tank pannier. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > Does anybody have a favorite way to carry spare tubes? I keep them > lashed to the outside of my tailbag, but they get old and crack and they > take up space in the tailbag by pushing the sides in. Any ideas out there? > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[getbent_net]

http://www.getbent.net/adv/main.php/d/1942-2/IMGP2367.JPG I added two tool tubes, 2ftx3in ABS sealed test caps. All in about $9 a tube. I use hose clamps to lash them to the inside of the paniers rack. Left tube is misc tools, irons, anything I need to change a tire. Right tool tube contains the spare tiretube and other light weight soft items. At camp I can drop the paniers, tighten up the hose clamps and go out with the tools out of the way.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > Yes, Mark. I agree. People will help you, they may have a welder, but > they don't all have Kawasaki parts bins! > > Ha! > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > On 1/24/2011 7:39 AM, mark ward wrote: > > I don't keep the tube with the tools, Why? VIBRATION, things rub > > against the tube and wear a weak spot into it, So I keep it seperate. > > While I do carry extra tools He is RIGHT, YES tools are easyer to come > > by the tubes (Parts), Last spring My clutch cable broke, we had tools > > to change it, but not enought to fix it untill I could get a new one. > > there were 16 of us on a trip. LUCKY there was a fire station near by > > and they offord to let me use there vise and they had some small nuts, > > and a grinder. EASY FIX, BUT I can tell you now I'm not going to carry > > a grinder on the bike, theres too many farmers ect. that have them for > > use if POLITE! > > Travel Safe! Travel Well! > > > > --- On *Mon, 1/24/11, RobertWichert //* wrote: > > > > > > From: RobertWichert > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spare Tubes > > To: "spike55_bmw" > > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 3:17 PM > > > > You're right, Don, and I do carry tools, but actually tools are > > easier > > to come by than tubes! > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > > +1 916 966 9060 > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > ======================================================== > > > > On 1/24/2011 4:26 AM, spike55_bmw wrote: > > > > > > Rbt: > > > Wouldn't it be a good idea to keep the spare tubes (I precoat > > mine in > > > baby powder so they spread out evenly upon re-inflation) with > > the tire > > > irons, patch kit, wrenches to remove either axle nut, and the small > > > stripped down DC electric air pump? > > > > > > Seems like only carrying spare tubes doesn't solve the problem > > unless > > > you're riding with someone else that has this other gear. > > > > > > I also doubt that you'd be able to apply 70+ ft-lbs of torque on > > the > > > rear wheel nut while using the OEM tool kit wrenches. That's why I > > > carry some heavier tools. > > > > > > This requires an investment in more extensive luggage system. > > All of > > > my tire tools and chain lube, etc are in tank panniers. No > > matter how > > > much stuff you have packed on the bike for a trip, the panniers / > > > tools / lube are accessible. Plus it distributes some of that > > weight > > > forward rather than having everything on the back wheel including > > > yourself. > > > > > > I adopted this weight distribution idea after returning from a > > 2,500 > > > mile trip where I started out with brand new tires. Since all of > > the > > > weight was on the rear of the bike, the flimsy flap of rubber > > down the > > > center of the new front tire was still intact upon my return. > > > > > > With the weight distribution scheme, the bike tracks better on the > > > highway and is less susceptible wobble at speed or from passing > > > tractor trailers. > > > > > > The Wolfman tank paniers are not free of problems though. I'm > > 6'3" and > > > I need them as far forward as I can get them so I can pull my > > knees in > > > against the tank. The straps that pull them forward cross over the > > > tank shrouds (cover radiator and overflow tank). The decals get > > chewed > > > up over time. > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > http://us.mc814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > , RobertWichert > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anybody have a favorite way to carry spare tubes? I keep them > > > > lashed to the outside of my tailbag, but they get old and > > crack and > > > they > > > > take up space in the tailbag by pushing the sides in. Any > > ideas out > > > there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > > > > +1 916 966 9060 > > > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[sh8knj8kster]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote:

> > I don't keep the tube with the tools, Why? VIBRATION, things rub against the tube and wear a weak spot into it, So I keep it seperate. >

~~~there is a simple workaround...put your tire irons inside of a cut down bicycle inner tube. That's what I did with mine and carried them right next to the inner tube in a fender bag http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04/4609541262/sizes/l/in/set-72157623853161157/ I eventually went with a better fender bag, one of those that has clamps (4) and cinch down with straps...can't remember the brand name okay, here it is, a pic of the better fender bag http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04/4662109951/sizes/l/in/photostream/ but the point is, I carried the spare tube along with the tire irons in the same bag and the tube never rubbed a hole in itself as the tire irons were carried in a rubber sock...a cut up bicycle tube the tire irons inside the inner tube trick is slick, I can't remember who told me about that one, but it works and works well Jake Reddick Fla. Our faults irritate us most when we see them in others. -- Dutch Proverb http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04/

[David Bowden]

Those are some nice looking tires you got there. It looks like we have the same gel seat pad. When I put mine on, the straps kept me from putting the side cover back on. The plastic hardware quick release of the strap is right where the cover needs to be. How did you get your on? ----- Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2011, at 10:58 PM, "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote: > > > > I don't keep the tube with the tools, Why? VIBRATION, things rub against the tube and wear a weak spot into it, So I keep it seperate. > > > > ~~~there is a simple workaround...put your tire irons inside of a cut down bicycle inner tube. That's what I did with mine and carried them right next to the inner tube in a fender bag > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04/4609541262/sizes/l/in/set-72157623853161157/ > > I eventually went with a better fender bag, one of those that has clamps (4) and cinch down with straps...can't remember the brand name > > okay, here it is, a pic of the better fender bag > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04/4662109951/sizes/l/in/photostream/ > > but the point is, I carried the spare tube along with the tire irons in the same bag and the tube never rubbed a hole in itself as the tire irons were carried in a rubber sock...a cut up bicycle tube > > the tire irons inside the inner tube trick is slick, I can't remember who told me about that one, but it works and works well > > Jake > Reddick Fla. > Our faults irritate us most when we see them in others. > -- Dutch Proverb > > http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[skypilot110]

I am going to try the vaccumm food sealer but with some baby powder pre installed on the tubes. I like the vaccummm sealer idea since the bags are much heavier duty than zip locks plus the vaccumm will keep them snug so they dont move around as much. Where they go depends entirely on how much stuff I am taking. normal day to day I only carry a patch kit and smaller tool kit. full on Xcountry rides get the full tool kit in the panniers with the tubes on top. Stuff like the PineBarrens 300 got the tire kit in the tubes and tire kit in the taank bag with the smaller tool kit and additional tools and other emergency gear in a bag straped to the rack. Where stuff goes is not a one size fits all for me.

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > , RobertWichert wrote:

Does anybody have a favorite way to carry spare tubes? I keep them lashed to the outside of my tailbag, but they get old and crack and they take up space in the tailbag by pushing the sides in. Any ideas out there?

> > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng

[mark ward]

Simple, A couple of times a year fred SELLS us a paper printout with everyone in order by state, $3.50 +tx. I'm SURE FRED, wants to set up all night sorting these things out, JUST MESSING WIT-CHA FRED. On MY next trip I plan on going threw and making a crude map list for just the areas I will traveling in.

--- On Tue, 1/25/11, Flower Jamie wrote: From: Flower Jamie Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Site Maps To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 5:06 AM I too have found no easy way to search for the folks near me (far northern California coast: Arcata, Humboldt County). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]