[dsn_klr650] klr versus yam and links

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Monty
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adding zurks to rear suspension

Post by Monty » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:16 am

Has anyone done this?  Seems the rear suspension would benefit from ability of having fresh grease pumped into the linkage.  Those parts get a real workout when riding off road. 

The Reverend
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adding zurks to rear suspension

Post by The Reverend » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:36 am

I believe there was a detailed write-up on adding zerk-fittings to a KLR on one of the forums. Maybe someone remembers where that was?

 

I think the procedure was to remove the swing-arm and drill it in the center and then drill two smaller holes on the sides to allow the grease to go through and lube the entire shaft.

 

 

 

[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Monty

Has anyone done this?  Seems the rear suspension would benefit from ability of having fresh grease pumped into the linkage.  Those parts get a real workout when riding off road. 


Bill Ahrens
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adding zurks to rear suspension

Post by Bill Ahrens » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:39 pm

http://members.cox.net/watt-man/Zerk%20Installation.html

 

Look what a Google search yields!

 

Bill Ahrens

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[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]The Reverend [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:36 AM [b]To:[/b] 'KLR Yahoo Group' [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [DSN_KLR650] Adding zurks to rear suspension

 

 

I believe there was a detailed write-up on adding zerk-fittings to a KLR on one of the forums. Maybe someone remembers where that was?

 

I think the procedure was to remove the swing-arm and drill it in the center and then drill two smaller holes on the sides to allow the grease to go through and lube the entire shaft.

 

 

 

[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Monty

Has anyone done this?  Seems the rear suspension would benefit from ability of having fresh grease pumped into the linkage.  Those parts get a real workout when riding off road. 

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Jud
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[dsn_klr650] klr versus yam and links

Post by Jud » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:11 pm

Using lowering links to lower the KLR (and most modern bikes, for that matter) has a number of unwanted side effects: 1) you use up suspension travel; the wheel travels a shorter distance before it hits the fender, and may do so before the shock hits its bump stop. 2) you use up ground clearance, so you are more likely to bottom out on the pavement (or un-pavement, as the case may be). It shouldn't happen on level ground, but you don't need as much of a bump to make contact. 3) The likelihood of both the foregoing is increased because the geometry of the longer links softens the effective rate of the spring. You can compensate with increased preload or if necessary, a stiffer spring. If the spring is not so stiff that it overwhelms the rebound damping of the shock, you might get a lowered bike that handles pretty decently over rough ground, subject of course to the limitations of reduced ground clearance and suspension travel. You can compensate by 1) slowing down; and 2) limiting the places you are willing to take your KLR. Or, you can leave the bike at it's stock height, suspend it so you can go as fast as you care to or can afford, and bear in mind the deficit in inseam when considering going into tight spots. I'm not telling you anything new here, just recapitulating some stuff that appears somewhere in nearly every thread on the subject. Of course, the better you ride, the faster you can go, and the tighter are the spots you can ride into. In all cases, as Harry Callahan says, "a man's got to know his limitations".
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > > > From: mac-doo@... > To: robert@... > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] KLR vereses,Yam and links > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 16:59:57 -0700 > > > > > > > > > Well Robert you are right about the lowering links it will bottom with any kind of touring stuff on"IE" side bags,top trunk, camping gear, even with the shock preload cranked up,i know i put the lowering links on mine but once you get all the gear on it will kiss the tarmac lots,the skid plate stops the bottom of the engine getting smacked but you are still grinding metal. > I put the OEM links back on and carved 2" off the seat instead which will do for now,if your not doing any touring and are just trailing and commuting then the lowering links are probably the way to go,ultimately being vertically challenged is a pain in the ASS,i was thinking of platform boots from the 60s 70s era but been there done that and my riding buddy's wouldn't ride with me anymore. > > Stu. > > To: roncriswell@... > CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; c_gtrucking@...; dgil@...; CurtisDrew@...; skyrider053@...; mickdl@...; mark@...; zacar@...; rockyheuer@... > From: robert@... > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:00:54 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] KLR vereses the Yamaha Tenere > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The KLR weighs too much for me and carries the weight too high too. > I lowered it two inches with links, and some are telling me it will > bottom out but I put on a big ass bash plate and I'm hoping for the > best. > > > > The first indication that I might have done the right thing was when > it started to tip over in the driveway and I WAS ABLE TO CATCH IT BY > THE ONE HANDLEBAR AND SAVE IT. This was impossible before, trust > me. Once it started to go, it was gone. Tippy tippy tippy. > > > > Maybe if the fuel tank was in the swing arm. Would that work? > > > > Air cooled would be better, really. > > > > Wanna sell that Hodaka? > > > > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > On 10/31/2010 7:03 AM, roncriswell@... wrote: > > > > > As an old dirtbike rider like probably most of you are, I > get so tired of when the so called next big adventure > comes out (emphasis on big). Isn't every bike an > adventure? The only adventure you might experience on the > Yamaha Tenere is when if you are so stupid to take it down > a deep gravel road, a muddy road, a talcum powder sandy > road and have to pick the big turd up by yourself. I get > hooked into these things every time a new one comes out > (until I read the weight). To me weight is everything on a > bike that is supposed to be able to go anywhere. You can > get away with a bad suspension, under powered the lighter > the bike is. I know, I still went more hard rough places > on my 100 cc Hodaka than any other bike I have owned and I > have had more powerful better suspentioned dirt bikes. I > keep waiting for somebody to make a better KLR or Suzuki > DR 650. Something under 300 pounds single cylinder with > maybe 50 torquey ponies with a great suspension, 4 gallon > or so tank, and a comfortable seat. Nine gallon tank, I > don't want, 100 high reving ponies I don't need. I had to > laugh when the guy that wrote about the Tenere said he > went on a 3 day 600 mile trip. WHOOO HOO! I hate to tell > him I have done numerous 500 - 600 - and 700 mile days on > my KLR (with a Corbin). I have had it up around 100 mph on > full 606 knobbies. The only time the power hasn't been > adequate was passing a double logging truck in Mexico at > 7000 ft. altitude. If the Japanes might build something > like the V twin Aprllia dirt bikes with a 4 gallon tank > and a comfy seat I might spring for it, but the Tenre, the > Multistrada, the KTM 990 or the Beemer GS's, no thanks. > The old air head GS Beemrs would be the closest to getting > mild interest but still way too heavy and big. I had to > laugh once when I rode to Big Bend once on a very windy > cold weekend from Dallas with a friend that has the Big > Beemer that is like a a Gold Wing with heated grips, CD > player and air suspension who was ready to quit after 300 > miles. Woosey. And remeber the guys on the big Beemers on > the Long Way Around trip with backup parts and film crew > in that deep mud? I had to laugh. I just read a book > recently about a guy riding from Mexico to Ushuaia > Argentina on a 125 air cooled single cylinder Honda. > > Smart man it my book. > > > > Anybody know if Seafoam makes a bike run leaner? A friend > with a Honda Shadow let it sit up too long and I told him > to use Seafoam which he did at maybe double what he > should. He started it and the pipes got glowing red hot so > he shut it off. This bike is a bike he bought at one of > those auctions with after market loud pipes and probably > isn't jetted correctly. Another friend says Seafoam will > make it run lean???? > > > > Criswell >

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