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Ron Magen
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lowering links . . . kickstand cutting

Post by Ron Magen » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:11 am

> 6a. Lowering Links - Ride Report
> I cut off the kickstand and now I need to get a new bottom piece welded > on. . . .
OK all you ' Pro's ' - I sent out this same plea a few weeks ago, but it never made in to the 'Digest'. I got my bike {gently used but new-to-me} because it HAD the 2in links installed. I didn't even think about the kickstand. Now, after about 18 months of familiarity, a couple of 'tip overs' that I blamed on myself, and some recent reading of this Group's 'messages', I see my error. I'm a WOODEN boat builder - I have no access to welding equipment, nor friends who do. I would rather NOT cut my original stand - 'failure IS an option !!' Does ANYBODY have either an old, or 'take off ' OEM-length stand, or a 'cut' one, that they would sell CHEAP ?? {I can cut it myself - but 'welding time' doesn't come cheap around here} Regards & Thanks, Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop {'03 650} _______________________________________ No infections found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com

sh8knj8kster
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lowering links . . . kickstand cutting

Post by sh8knj8kster » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:33 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Magen" wrote:
> > > 6a. Lowering Links - Ride Report > > > I cut off the kickstand and now I need to get a new bottom piece welded > > on. . . . > OK all you ' Pro's ' - > I sent out this same plea a few weeks ago, but it never made in to the > 'Digest'. > > I got my bike {gently used but new-to-me} because it HAD the 2in links > installed. I didn't even think about the kickstand. Now, after about 18 > months of familiarity, a couple of 'tip overs' that I blamed on myself, and > some recent reading of this Group's 'messages', I see my error. > > I'm a WOODEN boat builder - I have no access to welding equipment, nor > friends who do. I would rather NOT cut my original stand - 'failure IS an > option !!' Does ANYBODY have either an old, or 'take off ' OEM-length stand, > or a 'cut' one, that they would sell CHEAP ?? {I can cut it myself - but > 'welding time' doesn't come cheap around here} > > Regards & Thanks, > Ron Magen > Backyard Boatshop > {'03 650} >
~~~~Here's another option- http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/LC8parts.html Look down the page, CJ modifies side stands for LC8's. Send him yours...I doubt the fact you have a KLR stand would matter Jake Reddick Fla. We believed that anything worth doing was worth overdoing. Steven Tyler http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/

stuart sullivan
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lowering links . . . kickstand cutting

Post by stuart sullivan » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:46 pm

Ron you can buy a shortened side stand from Arrowhead motor sports and others $60,or cut your OEM side stand put a narrower piece in there drill some holes put some nuts and bolts on then you can take it back to stock if you want.                                                                                                      Stu. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: sh8knj8k@... Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 17:33:11 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Lowering Links . . . Kickstand cutting  
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Magen" wrote: > > > 6a. Lowering Links - Ride Report > > > I cut off the kickstand and now I need to get a new bottom piece welded > > on. . . . > OK all you ' Pro's ' - > I sent out this same plea a few weeks ago, but it never made in to the > 'Digest'. > > I got my bike {gently used but new-to-me} because it HAD the 2in links > installed. I didn't even think about the kickstand. Now, after about 18 > months of familiarity, a couple of 'tip overs' that I blamed on myself, and > some recent reading of this Group's 'messages', I see my error. > > I'm a WOODEN boat builder - I have no access to welding equipment, nor > friends who do. I would rather NOT cut my original stand - 'failure IS an > option !!' Does ANYBODY have either an old, or 'take off ' OEM-length stand, > or a 'cut' one, that they would sell CHEAP ?? {I can cut it myself - but > 'welding time' doesn't come cheap around here} > > Regards & Thanks, > Ron Magen > Backyard Boatshop > {'03 650} > ~~~~Here's another option- http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/LC8parts.html Look down the page, CJ modifies side stands for LC8's. Send him yours...I doubt the fact you have a KLR stand would matter Jake Reddick Fla. We believed that anything worth doing was worth overdoing. Steven Tyler http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/
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RobertWichert
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lowering links . . . kickstand cutting

Post by RobertWichert » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:00 pm

If you aren't off road, you can actually get by with just cutting it off.  For a 2" drop, cutting off 3.5 cm (1 3/8 in.) on the short side and 5 cm (2 in.) on the long side, perpendicular to the axis of the tube (no bevel) resulted in it working perfectly (it may be a little too short).  The only issue is that the thin tube could cut into the asphalt (and it WILL dig into dirt) and the bike can / will fall over.  To remedy this for the road, I put a PVC pipe plug (3/4" I think) into the tube and duct taped it to stay.  It works fine now with the additional 1/4 in. from the pipe plug. Welding on a foot (a bigger foot than stock) should take even an amateur welder a few minutes at most.  I'm sure they will charge MUCH less than the $85 they want for the adjustable one. And if you are welding, if it's wrong, just weld it some more!  Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================
On 10/6/2010 10:33 AM, sh8knj8kster wrote:   --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "Ron Magen"quahaug@... wrote: > > > 6a. Lowering Links - Ride Report > > > I cut off the kickstand and now I need to get a new bottom piece welded > > on. . . . > OK all you ' Pro's ' - > I sent out this same plea a few weeks ago, but it never made in to the > 'Digest'. > > I got my bike {gently used but new-to-me} because it HAD the 2in links > installed. I didn't even think about the kickstand. Now, after about 18 > months of familiarity, a couple of 'tip overs' that I blamed on myself, and > some recent reading of this Group's 'messages', I see my error. > > I'm a WOODEN boat builder - I have no access to welding equipment, nor > friends who do. I would rather NOT cut my original stand - 'failure IS an > option !!' Does ANYBODY have either an old, or 'take off ' OEM-length stand, > or a 'cut' one, that they would sell CHEAP ?? {I can cut it myself - but > 'welding time' doesn't come cheap around here} > > Regards & Thanks, > Ron Magen > Backyard Boatshop > {'03 650} > ~~~~Here's another option- http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/LC8parts.html Look down the page, CJ modifies side stands for LC8's. Send him yours...I doubt the fact you have a KLR stand would matter Jake Reddick Fla. We believed that anything worth doing was worth overdoing. – Steven Tyler http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/

RobertWichert
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oil consumption

Post by RobertWichert » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:07 pm

It's not a BUG it's a FEATURE! Call it "Feed and Bleed". Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================
On 10/5/2010 7:05 PM, Mike Hilton wrote:   At that rate Robert all I'll have to do is remember to change filter every 7.5K, my oil will always be fresh. Mike H. ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] robert@... [b]To:[/b] fmhilton@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com ; kjedick@... [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, October 01, 2010 6:28 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Oil Consumption   It occurs to me that burning oil will put out more smog forming chemicals (reactive organic gases).  Does your state or federal air quality department care about this?  Would it fail a smog test? Other than that, I would most likely be content to just add the oil at that rate, although one quart for every 1000 miles does seem pretty high. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ======================================================== On 10/1/2010 4:12 PM, Mike Hilton wrote:   Ken, I had my 08 in for warranty on the oil consumption issue, mine was using about that much and maybe slightly more than yours.  My dealers service rep. convinced Kaw to allow them to tear it down and see if there was a problem.  They found that the cylinder was out of round.  This is with the bike at 11K on the odometer.  I had a choice of having Kaw replace the cylinder and piston with new ones or allow the dealer to bore the cylinder to the first over size and install  a new piston and rings.  I chose to go with the first over size.  Now 7K later, odometer at 18K, my bike is starting to  us oil at the same rate or more.  I reported it to my service rep  and advised him I was starting a consumption test.  To start it off, I  had  them change oil (Kaw 10W40) and filter and note the mileage.  I'm only at 250 miles and have had to add 250cc's.  Plan on making a 500  mile run this weekend at highway speeds,  55 to 65 and finish up the test.  I'll try and post to the list when I find and what Kaw is willing to do. Mike Hilton Louisiana   PS: on the 08's they increased the oil change interval to 7.5K, but I faithfully change oil and filter at 5K.  Your dealer can make the difference with Kaw!   ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] kjedick@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:09 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Oil Consumption   My KLR 09 likes to drink oil and according to Kawi, a quart every 1000 miles is OK. My drinks (burns out) about a 1 Quart and 5 oz. every 1000 miles. Kawi also said this was acceptable . Bike runs great. I commute 70+ miles round trip on a combination of rural roads (34 miles @ 65/70 mph), City streets (24 miles of stop and go @ 35 mph) and dirt roads (12 miles of dirt roads @ 45 mph). Bikes has had this problem from day one. (Current mileage10785 miles ) No Mods just farkle. HT Crash guards and Panniers. I guess I'm looking for some advice on what my next move should be to resolve this issue. Ken Colorado

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