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[madmotorcyclist2001]

Let me see if I can distract you all from the dohickey question for a minute. I recently purchased a used KLR 650. I love it. So, what brand of oil filters seems to be the most popular with KLR riders? Joe Grove Jonesboro, AR

[squasher_1]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "madmotorcyclist2001" wrote:

> > Let me see if I can distract you all from the dohickey question for > a minute. I recently purchased a used KLR 650. I love it. So, what > brand of oil filters seems to be the most popular with KLR riders? > > Joe Grove > Jonesboro, AR

As with anything KLR. the cheaper the better. that means EMGO. you can get a 10 pack on ebay shipped to you for around $25. thats $2.50 each. FRAM and K+N both come with new O-rings. the others do not. You most likely wont need to replace the o-ring, but for your first oil change it would be better to have one just in case. check the bigcee FAQ's for the correct part #s for each brand of filter

[Guy B. Young II]

Joe, All of this is covered in the KLR FAQ: Which is the best oil filter? Several brands of paper filters are available, and are cheaper than Kawi filters: Fram #CH6070; EMGO #10-30000; K&N #KN-123; Wix # 24951; NAPA #4951 (I believe that both the Wix and Napa filters are made by Wix). The Wix, Napa and Fram filters come with new O-rings, and the others do not. (If you are ordering from Dennis Kirk, the replacement O-ring is p/n 30-143.) There is also a lifetime stainless steel filter available, which you clean at each oil change. It's a bit pricey, and there is still some debate over which type of filter is better. The SS filter has a consistent filtration level; the paper filters vary from better to worse than the SS. Some people believe that paper filters shed fibers, that wind up clogging the oil strainer screen. However, it is more likely that this is clutch or gasket material. After 25k mi on my bike, there was no fibrous material in the strainer. which can be found at: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Prior to changing to the SS cleanable filter, I used the Fram CH6070 types purchased at a local auto store. Personally, I believe all of them are OK to use, but frequent, regular oil/filter changes are the key to long engine life. The Manual indicates every 5,000 miles, but - IMHO - that's was too long. Mine gets changed every 2500-3000 miles. If you life/ride in dirty and/or dusty areas, I'd consider changing the oil and more frequently. Oh yeah, the doohickey adjustment gets tweaked at the same time. Guy A16 Richmond, VA -----Original Message----- From: madmotorcyclist2001 Sent: Jan 15, 2005 2:27 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] oil filters Let me see if I can distract you all from the dohickey question for a minute. I recently purchased a used KLR 650. I love it. So, what brand of oil filters seems to be the most popular with KLR riders? Joe Grove Jonesboro, AR

[dumbazz_650]

Anything but Fram! Those should never be used in any engine. The following are listed in the FAQ. Emgo 10-30000 Kawasaki 16099-004 K&N KN123 Napa 4951 Wix 24951 One site listed thet Purolator ML16824 as compatible. See the FAQ at www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html And I would recommend that you change that doohickey. MarkB --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "madmotorcyclist2001" wrote:

> > Let me see if I can distract you all from the dohickey question for > a minute. I recently purchased a used KLR 650. I love it. So, what > brand of oil filters seems to be the most popular with KLR riders? > > Joe Grove > Jonesboro, AR

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 1/15/2005 11:51:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, dumbazz_650@... writes: "Anything but Fram! Those should never be used in any engine. The following are listed in the FAQ. Emgo 10-30000 Kawasaki 16099-004 K&N KN123 Napa 4951 Wix 24951" A few months ago the counter guy at my local Napa store told me the same thing so we looked at the Fram, Wix, and Napa filters and found they were absolutely identical right down to having both Fram and Wix part #'s on the filter itself. It was obvious that they were the same product in different boxes. So if you dislike Fram that much you should also avoid the Wix and Napa products. Kurt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guy B. Young II]

An opinion, at best. I, and other, have never had any problems with Fram filters, specifically the ones (CH6012) used in my former '86 (86K miles), and my present '95 (107K mile) Connie. The spin-on types used on earlier Wings had problems, and due to that the rumor mill persists that ALL Fram filters are taboo. Change the oil and filter on, or before, the recomended interval, and you will not have any problems. Guy -----Original Message----- From: dumbazz_650 Sent: Jan 15, 2005 2:48 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: oil filters Anything but Fram! Those should never be used in any engine. The following are listed in the FAQ. Emgo 10-30000 Kawasaki 16099-004 K&N KN123 Napa 4951 Wix 24951 One site listed thet Purolator ML16824 as compatible. See the FAQ at www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html And I would recommend that you change that doohickey. MarkB --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "madmotorcyclist2001" wrote:

> > Let me see if I can distract you all from the dohickey question for > a minute. I recently purchased a used KLR 650. I love it. So, what > brand of oil filters seems to be the most popular with KLR riders? > > Joe Grove > Jonesboro, AR

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[madmotorcyclist2001]

Thanks for all the input on oil filters. As to the person who suggested I replace my dohickey, I had already made up my mind to do that before starting out on my summer adventures (I teach school). I agree with those who suggest $50 or $60 to guard against a known risk, even though the risk is quite low, is a wise expenditure. Again, thanks. Joe Grove

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 7:27 PM +0000 1/15/05, madmotorcyclist2001 wrote:

>Let me see if I can distract you all from the dohickey question for >a minute. I recently purchased a used KLR 650. I love it. So, what >brand of oil filters seems to be the most popular with KLR riders?

As with oil, oil filters are good to have in the engine. Mark

[madmotorcyclist2001]

Yes, Mark, you are right that filters and oil go best in the engine. However, since the rider, not the motorcycle, makes the selection, "popularity" has to do with the buyer. My question was which is the most popular with KLR riders. As a secretary from a former life used to tell me, "Mr. Grove, every body loves a little ass, but nobody loves a smart ass." Joe Grove

[Rodney Copeland]

HHHAAAAAAAARRRRR!!!!! A smart ass is better than a Dumbass!!!! Most of us have been both! Kinda depends on the location of your cranium at that particular time in your life, things change, don't ya know! After my glass stomach implant, I've much better insight! Finally, I can see with my head up my ass! HHHAAAAAAAAARRRRR!!!! My question about filters is where the hell can I keep a good supply of them for under $5. I have them comin into Oreily and Palace auto, but dam, it's like pullin teeth. Guess I need to buy a case at a time, Huh! Rod --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "madmotorcyclist2001" wrote:

> > Yes, Mark, you are right that filters and oil go best in the

engine.

> However, since the rider, not the motorcycle, makes the > selection, "popularity" has to do with the buyer. My question was > which is the most popular with KLR riders. As a secretary from a > former life used to tell me, "Mr. Grove, every body loves a little > ass, but nobody loves a smart ass." > > Joe Grove