older guys on klr's

[James Hoving]

Usually they fail from getting too floppy from the prolonged exposure to petrol. Its not too common that they fail from anything other the old age, or someone stabbing them with the needle! Give it ten years before you can expect any problems. At least thats my experience. /Jim =================Original message text=============== How often do the carb diaphragms fail? Why do they fail? Someone suggested that a big single may be harder on the diaphragm than other bikes. Would like to hear from anyone who has replaced the diaphragm. Didn't have much luck searching the archives. Allan A14 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ==============End of original message text===========

[Allan Patton]

Thanks for the reply Jim. I searched the archives until I found the messages I thought I remembered. They were mostly about drilling the little hole in the slide and the difficulty in getting the diaphragm in place long enough to get the top on. Like you said, the diaphragms appear to have a low fail history. My diaphragm failed somewhere on the backroads of Indiana. Remembered reading about them, so I was sure that was the problem. Found a dealer, and of course they didn't have the part. So I showed the lady how to get to the dealer locator on kawasaki.com. Called the dealer at Mt. Vernon Ohio and ordered it. From Thursday to Saturday, I rode about 500 miles with it bad, and a top speed of 60 mph. Riding slow wasn't all that bad except for getting flipped off by old people while passing on the double yellow. If I had known, I could probably got the part from a Harley dealer for about 40 dollars. Part # 27585-88. The Kawasaki part with express delivery and tax was 145 dollars. The Super 8 motel in Ashland has a nice shade tree by the swimming pool. Now I can claim to be a shade tree mechanic. The diaphragm had a little slit less than a quarter inch long close to the outer edge, guess that's all it takes. Talked to some people at the race track about it, one guy was surprised that a diaphragm would fail, another guy said that 70,000 miles on a diaphragm in a single wasn't bad. The good thing is that you can still ride after it fails, so it's not all that big a deal. Just wish it didn't decide to fail 1,000 miles from home. Allan A14

----- Original Message ----- From: "James Hoving" To: "Allan Patton" Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] carb > Usually they fail from getting too floppy from the prolonged exposure > to petrol. Its not too common that they fail from anything other the > old age, or someone stabbing them with the needle! > Give it ten years before you can expect any problems. > At least thats my experience. > > /Jim > > =================Original message text=============== > How often do the carb diaphragms fail? Why do they fail? Someone suggested that a big single may be harder on the diaphragm than other bikes. Would like to hear from anyone who has replaced the diaphragm. Didn't have much luck searching the archives. > > Allan A14 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ==============End of original message text=========== >

[Judson D. Jones]

For future reference (not that you are likely ever to need it again) a carb diaphragm can sometimes be repaired with a little RTV, or even electrical tape. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Allan Patton" wrote:

> Thanks for the reply Jim. I searched the archives until I found the

messages

> I thought I remembered. They were mostly about drilling the little

hole in

> the slide and the difficulty in getting the diaphragm in place long

enough

> to get the top on. Like you said, the diaphragms appear to have a

low fail

> history. > > My diaphragm failed somewhere on the backroads of Indiana.

Remembered

> reading about them, so I was sure that was the problem. Found a

dealer, and

> of course they didn't have the part. So I showed the lady how to

get to the

> dealer locator on kawasaki.com. Called the dealer at Mt. Vernon

Ohio and

> ordered it. From Thursday to Saturday, I rode about 500 miles with

it bad,

> and a top speed of 60 mph. Riding slow wasn't all that bad except

for

> getting flipped off by old people while passing on the double

yellow.

> > If I had known, I could probably got the part from a Harley dealer

for about

> 40 dollars. Part # 27585-88. The Kawasaki part with express

delivery and tax

> was 145 dollars. The Super 8 motel in Ashland has a nice shade tree

by the

> swimming pool. Now I can claim to be a shade tree mechanic. The

diaphragm

> had a little slit less than a quarter inch long close to the outer

edge,

> guess that's all it takes. > > Talked to some people at the race track about it, one guy was

surprised that

> a diaphragm would fail, another guy said that 70,000 miles on a

diaphragm in

> a single wasn't bad. The good thing is that you can still ride

after it

> fails, so it's not all that big a deal. Just wish it didn't decide

to fail

> 1,000 miles from home. > > Allan A14 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Hoving" > To: "Allan Patton" > Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] carb > > > > Usually they fail from getting too floppy from the prolonged

exposure

> > to petrol. Its not too common that they fail from anything other

the

> > old age, or someone stabbing them with the needle! > > Give it ten years before you can expect any problems. > > At least thats my experience. > > > > /Jim > > > > =================Original message text=============== > > How often do the carb diaphragms fail? Why do they fail? Someone

suggested

> that a big single may be harder on the diaphragm than other bikes.

Would

> like to hear from anyone who has replaced the diaphragm. Didn't

have much

> luck searching the archives. > > > > Allan A14 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List

FAQ

> courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> > > > > > ==============End of original message text=========== > >

[ricketts@nmsu.edu]

Anyone have a good used carb for sale? The dealers want an arm and two legs for a new one. Thanks, Paul

[Zachariah Mully]

On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 08:07, ricketts@... wrote:

> Anyone have a good used carb for sale? The dealers want an arm and two legs > for a new one. > > Thanks, > > Paul

What did you do to yours? Curious minds want to know. Z DC A5X A12X

[Zachariah Mully]

On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 09:50, ricketts@... wrote:

> well ...... I just bought the bike and the guy who sold it to me said he had > had problems with it and he took it apart (he's not mechanically inclined > though!) to see what was wrong. He ended up taking it to a dealer who > supposedly "fixed" it. It now over flows with gas. I don't have much > confidence in people's ability to "fix" carburetors since they contain so many > parts and while they are simple devices, they contain so may parts that if any > part is not properly installed then problems are apt to arise. I'd rather > just install an new one. There is a possibility that it's just a float > adjustment, which I am capable of doing, but ....... ?

Why don't you find somebody who knows carbs (a race shop maybe?) and have them give it a cursory examination? They might be able to spot the problem in a couple of minutes. And the KLR carb isn't all that complicated, so unless the PO mistakenly took a dremel to it, there is nothing that they did that you couldn't undo. If you were really adventurous, you could stop by your local Harley dealer and offer to take on of the many OEM HD Keihin carbs sitting in the back off his hands. These would work in a KLR if somebody figured out the jetting and the airbox mount interface for them. (which I'll do one of these days when I get the time, I'd love to have the accelerator pump) Z DC A5X A12X

[Randall Marbach]

Hi Martin Check out this thread for some good pics of KLR sidecars. Most of the KLR/sidecar rigs featured in the videos are Red Menace's. I believe he constructs them himself. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301595&page=21> The rig in post 303 of the thread is just like the one I am building except it will be an A17 in the GIJOE colors. I cant believe how quickly time flies.  I almost had this rig on the road 4th quarter of last year. Then a string of events intervened.....   stolen motorcycle parts,  a major job change at the company, training, conferences, weddings, farm school, tax planning, house remodeling, sale of some commercial real estate all conspired against me in trying to get my dualsports back on the road. Its been a year next August since I took my S/TEP class training and I haven't been on 3 wheels since. Red Menace is now offering an advanced DualSport Sidecar Skills training class this coming August that I have decided to attend. http://adventuresidecar.com/> Since so much time has passed, I figured it would be a good idea to take this refresher course before heading out on my own so I am planning to have my rig ready just about the time I take attend this class. In the meantime, I got the Valkyrie running last month and I will focus on getting my DRZ441 back on the road this month. Once the DRZ is finished, I will resume work on the KLR.  I will post progress on the thread I started last year once I start twisting wrenches. Randy from Burbank aka MrInvisible [b]From:[/b] revmaaatin [b]To:[/b] Randall Marbach [b]Sent:[/b] Sat, June 5, 2010 8:41:31 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Older guys on KLR's

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Randall Marbach wrote: > > > 59 this month.  also still riding a Valkyrie, a KLR and a DRZ441...  got another KLR/Enduro sidecar under construction. PM/RM only WE want PICTURES! We want PICTURES! please. smile. I think I would really like the sidecar gig. martinearl.

[mark ward]

Hey

On the right side of the carb, near Bottom Left, is a hole (if english) near the Idle screw head, about 3/8th's of a inch. What is it for??

I had a mud wasp nest in mine. Can I cap it?

 

(I'm not ready to rebuild the carb, YET, so I ask.)

 

Mark (W. Mi.)