anyone have or used this bead popping tool?

[Arden Kysely]

I tried a sealer on the tank on my old A1. It was messy, had nasty chemicals, and didn't do the job. Then I took it to a radiator shop and had it soldered for 30 bucks. That held fine. My leak was on the left rear, where water probably settled and eventually rusted a pin-sized hole. Now I add some STP gas treatment now and then to absorb any water in the tank and avoid future problems (it's got lotsa ethanol). I've also heard of Drygas, but never seen it on the shelf. __Arden

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dr_coady" wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a 1987 KLR 650 with about 28K miles with a leak in the gas > tank. I cannot exactly see the hole. It is behind the plate that > the rear mounting tab is welded to. The mounting tab is welded to a > plate, which is then tack/spot welded to the tank. The leak seemed > pretty bad. I could not count to 1 between each drip of gas, as it > came out of the tank. It does not look as though it could be easily > welded as you would have to weld completely around the plate, and > under the tab so it wouldn't leak. I am considering buying a tank > sealing product, but am not sure how well it would seal, considering > that this is a stressed (low, but still stressed) part of the tank. > > What are people's experiences with tank sealers, and also what do > people think of the IMS 6.6gal tank. > > Thanks > Dan

[JRC]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dr_coady" wrote:

> Hi all, > > I have a 1987 KLR 650 with about 28K miles with a leak in the gas > tank.

On my other MC newsgroup, people have recommended JB Weld to fix leaking gas tanks.

[Mike Frey]

This is a common complaint on the early Ninjas due to the tank having a "dead spot" of gasoline at the bottom, where water can accumulate. The KLR tank looks similar. The tank on my 1987 Ninja rusted through in several spots. Poking at the pinholes made larger holes about 2mm in diameter. I used a punch to lightly dent the tank in those areas, then used JB Weld to fill the dent and allowed some to ooze to the inside. After 1 day of cure, I used POR-15 tank liner. It worked better than I expected. No leaks. An added bonus was that I (a completely inexperienced body worker) sanded the JB Weld flush with the surrounding metal and repainted it and the repair was almost invisible. JRC wrote:

>--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dr_coady" wrote: > > >>Hi all, >> >>I have a 1987 KLR 650 with about 28K miles with a leak in the gas >>tank. >> >> > >On my other MC newsgroup, people have recommended JB Weld to fix >leaking gas tanks. > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[James]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Thor Lancelot Simon" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Leaking gas tank > On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 11:44:19PM -0400, Zachariah Mully wrote: > > > > A tank sealing product probably won't work very well. Try welding or > > epoxying it. > > Just a note: standard procedure for welding gas tanks (or anything that's > contained gasoline) at least the way I learned it: dump gas, *fill the tank > with water* (very important!) then weld. Don't weld a tank with gas or gas > vapor in it; and you can't really know there's no gas vapor unless it's > full of something that won't burn, which is the point of the water fill. > > Thor > REPLY---- Also, if the water comes close to the point of welding, you will get small *explosions* or like spatter hissy fits of the welder. Make sure the water is away from the area being welded. Very important....... James > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

[Darren Clark]

Attachments : I came home to a garage stinking of gas today, and found a huge puddle under my KLR. I was hoping for something simple to fix, but it turns out that the gas tank is leaking. It looks like a small crack where the top tank shell is joined to the lower shell. I pressurized the tank and put some soapy water on it, and the area circled in red started bubbling. I'm thinking of brazing it then putting some Red-Kote tank liner in it, but would like some feedback from the list (list wisdom?!?) before I do anything. So what would you do? Thanks in advance. [img]cid:part1.03020200.05080709@tds.net[/img] -- Darren Clark http://www.flickr.com/photos/84373829@N00/ 2004 KLR-650 Fowlerville, MI

[Jeff Saline]

Darren,   If you have the resources to braze the leak I think you also have the resources to weld it.  I'd use TIG as my first process.  Once you braze it you will lose the option to weld it later on without a lot of effort.   For a liner I think you might consider a POR-15 tank lining kit.   Now that's how I'd do a permanent repair since I have welding capability in my shop.  But another option maybe worthy of consideration is some JB Kwik.  Last year Rev Maaatin did something similar on his return home on a KLR250.  We looked at it and decided it was good enough to leave instead of cleaning the leak and welding.   Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412  South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT <><><><><> <><><><><> On Fri, 07 May 2010 21:23:57 -0400 Darren Clark writes:

I came home to a garage stinking of gas today, and found a huge puddle under my KLR. I was hoping for something simple to fix, but it turns out that the gas tank is leaking. It looks like a small crack where the top tank shell is joined to the lower shell. I pressurized the tank and put some soapy water on it, and the area circled in red started bubbling. I'm thinking of brazing it then putting some Red-Kote tank liner in it, but would like some feedback from the list (list wisdom?!?) before I do anything. So what would you do? Thanks in advance. -- Darren Clark http://www.flickr.com/photos/84373829@N00/ 2004 KLR-650 Fowlerville, MI   .

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[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-788326649 p {margin:0;}+1 on the JB Qwik. My process is to sand and remove any rust bubbling or flaking, then scrub with a toothbrush and denatured alcohol.  The alcohol will remove any oily residue left from the gasoline.  Patch with the JB Qwik, let it cure, then sand & paint.  I've never had one fail... -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Saline" To: BiggRanger@... Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 7, 2010 6:50:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Leaking Gas Tank   Darren,   If you have the resources to braze the leak I think you also have the resources to weld it.  I'd use TIG as my first process.  Once you braze it you will lose the option to weld it later on without a lot of effort.   For a liner I think you might consider a POR-15 tank lining kit.   Now that's how I'd do a permanent repair since I have welding capability in my shop.  But another option maybe worthy of consideration is some JB Kwik.  Last year Rev Maaatin did something similar on his return home on a KLR250.  We looked at it and decided it was good enough to leave instead of cleaning the leak and welding.   Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412  South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT <><><><><> <><><><><> On Fri, 07 May 2010 21:23:57 -0400 Darren Clark writes: I came home to a garage stinking of gas today, and found a huge puddle under my KLR. I was hoping for something simple to fix, but it turns out that the gas tank is leaking. It looks like a small crack where the top tank shell is joined to the lower shell. I pressurized the tank and put some soapy water on it, and the area circled in red started bubbling. I'm thinking of brazing it then putting some Red-Kote tank liner in it, but would like some feedback from the list (list wisdom?!?) before I do anything. So what would you do? Thanks in advance. -- Darren Clark http://www.flickr.com/photos/84373829@N00/ 2004 KLR-650 Fowlerville, MI   .

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[Darren Clark]

Attachments : I came home to a garage stinking of gas today, and found a huge puddle under my KLR. I was hoping for something simple to fix, but it turns out that the gas tank is leaking. It looks like a small crack where the top tank shell is joined to the lower shell. I pressurized the tank and put some soapy water on it, and the area circled in red started bubbling. I'm thinking of brazing it then putting some Red-Kote tank liner in it, but would like some feedback from the list (list wisdom?!?) before I do anything. So what would you do? Thanks in advance. Hopefully the attachment works this time. -- Darren Clark http://www.flickr.com/photos/84373829@N00/ 2004 KLR-650 Fowlerville, MI

[Jud]

A buddy called me once with a similar problem, a leaky gas tank on a KZ1000. My response was similar. I gave him some JB Weld and another epoxy product, and suggested if the tank just had a pinhole in it, he might work a quick fix with a sheet metal screw and a neoprene washer. I had to work on my own bike for an event the next day, so I couldn't help him. My friend is not much of a mechanic, but he is a pretty smart guy. He left me a phone message that evening that just said "I found a solution to my problem". Next day, he showed up riding a Softail Springer. His story: I "I got the early edition of the sunday paper, and drove out to St. Croix Harley. They didn't have anything for sale on the floor (this was in the days of waiting lists for new Harleys), so I called on a want ad. It was about 80 miles away, over on the other side of town. I drove over there, looked at the bike, agreed on a price with the seller, and got out my check book. "The guy says, 'Wait a minute. You obviously don't understand. You can't just up and buy a motorcycle with a check.' "I say, 'No, you don't understand. This is about instant gratification. I want this bike, and I need to be able to ride it first thing tomorrow. I have to ride it home today.' So I left him the check, my cell phone, and my Benz convertible, and here I am. I told him I'd come out on Monday and bring him cash." So I guess there's more than one way to skin a cat, even if it does contribute to an unsavory stereotype.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Darren Clark wrote: > > I came home to a garage stinking of gas today, and found a huge puddle > under my KLR. I was hoping for something simple to fix, but it turns out > that the gas tank is leaking. It looks like a small crack where the top > tank shell is joined to the lower shell. I pressurized the tank and put > some soapy water on it, and the area circled in red started bubbling. > I'm thinking of brazing it then putting some Red-Kote tank liner in it, > but would like some feedback from the list (list wisdom?!?) before I do > anything. So what would you do? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > -- > Darren Clark > http://www.flickr.com/photos/84373829@N00/ > 2004 KLR-650 > Fowlerville, MI >

[Fred Hink]

I would advise against brazing/welding on any gas tank that has gasoline residue.  Gasoline ignited in an enclosure can be very explosive. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com     [b]From:[/b] salinej1@... [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, May 07, 2010 7:50 PM [b]To:[/b] BiggRanger@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Leaking Gas Tank   Darren,   If you have the resources to braze the leak I think you also have the resources to weld it.  I'd use TIG as my first process.  Once you braze it you will lose the option to weld it later on without a lot of effort.   For a liner I think you might consider a POR-15 tank lining kit.   Now that's how I'd do a permanent repair since I have welding capability in my shop.  But another option maybe worthy of consideration is some JB Kwik.  Last year Rev Maaatin did something similar on his return home on a KLR250.  We looked at it and decided it was good enough to leave instead of cleaning the leak and welding.   Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412  South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT <><><><><> <><><><><> On Fri, 07 May 2010 21:23:57 -0400 Darren Clark writes:

I came home to a garage stinking of gas today, and found a huge puddle under my KLR. I was hoping for something simple to fix, but it turns out that the gas tank is leaking. It looks like a small crack where the top tank shell is joined to the lower shell. I pressurized the tank and put some soapy water on it, and the area circled in red started bubbling. I'm thinking of brazing it then putting some Red-Kote tank liner in it, but would like some feedback from the list (list wisdom?!?) before I do anything. So what would you do? Thanks in advance. -- Darren Clark http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 84373829@ N00/ 2004 KLR-650 Fowlerville, MI   .

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