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[pdstreeter@mmm.com]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote: > > The Octane make s big differance on top speed. > > I also noticed My Mileage greatly REDUCED when in areas where there was More "CORN" (Higher ethanol) in the gas. > Then revmaaatin wrote: >If you burn moonshine-- >Over 95F, you will be lucky to get your bike to run 60mph indicated. >at least, that has been my experience. Here in Minnesota, 10% gasahol is mandated.  My KLR and other bikes run fine on it, although my gas mileage improves a little when I fill up in Wisconsin.   Paul Streeter

[RobertWichert]

Heat of Combustion for some common fuels (higher value) Fuel  [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@wichert.org[/img] kJ/g  [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@wichert.org[/img] kcal/g  [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@wichert.org[/img] BTU/lb  [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@wichert.org[/img] Hydrogen 141.9 33.9 61,000 Gasoline 47.0 11.3 20,000 Diesel 45.0 10.7 19,300 Ethanol 29.8 7.1 12,000 Propane 49.9 11.9 21,000 Butane 49.2 11.8 21,200 Wood 15.0 3.6 6,000 Coal (Lignite) 15.0 4.4 8,000 Coal (Anthracite) 27.0 7.8 14,000 Natural Gas 54.0 13.0 23,000 Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================

On 4/1/2010 6:14 AM, pdstreeter@mmm.com wrote:   --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, mark ward nomad59@... wrote: > > The Octane make s big differance on top speed. > > I also noticed My Mileage greatly REDUCED when in areas where there was  More "CORN" (Higher ethanol) in the gas. > Then revmaaatin wrote: >If you burn moonshine-- >Over 95F, you will be lucky to get your bike to run 60mph indicated. >at least, that has been my experience. Here in Minnesota, 10% gasahol is mandated.  My KLR and other bikes run fine on it, although my gas mileage improves a little when I fill up in Wisconsin.   Paul Streeter

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-1461848767 p {margin:0;}So you're saying I should be running my KLR on hydrogen?  Based upon a quick run of the calculator I should get around 114HP out of my thumper if i do! Where do I sign up? -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "RobertWichert" To: pdstreeter@... Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2010 9:53:29 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Top Speed, now ethanol Heat of Combustion for some common fuels (higher value) Fuel  [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@...[/img] kJ/g  [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@...[/img] kcal/g  [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@...[/img] BTU/lb  [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@...[/img] Hydrogen 141.9 33.9 61,000 Gasoline 47.0 11.3 20,000 Diesel 45.0 10.7 19,300 Ethanol 29.8 7.1 12,000 Propane 49.9 11.9 21,000 Butane 49.2 11.8 21,200 Wood 15.0 3.6 6,000 Coal (Lignite) 15.0 4.4 8,000 Coal (Anthracite) 27.0 7.8 14,000 Natural Gas 54.0 13.0 23,000 Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ======================================================== On 4/1/2010 6:14 AM, pdstreeter@... wrote: [quote]  --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward nomad59@... wrote: > > The Octane make s big differance on top speed. > > I also noticed My Mileage greatly REDUCED when in  areas where  there was  More "CORN" (Higher ethanol) in the gas. > Then revmaaatin wrote: >If you burn moonshine-- >Over 95F, you will be lucky to get your bike to run 60mph indicated. >at least, that has been my experience. Here in Minnesota, 10% gasahol is mandated.  My KLR and other bikes run fine on it, although my gas mileage improves a little when I fill up in Wisconsin.   Paul Streeter

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[RobertWichert]

Yeah, well, density is an issue too. A tank of hydrogen is just a bit less than a tank of gas. But liquid hydrogen, well, THAT'S a different story. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================

On 4/1/2010 9:56 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: So you're saying I should be running my KLR on hydrogen? Based upon a quick run of the calculator I should get around 114HP out of my thumper if i do! Where do I sign up? -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "RobertWichert" To: pdstreeter@mmm. com Cc: "DSN KLR650" Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2010 9:53:29 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Top Speed, now ethanol Heat of Combustion for some common fuels (higher value) Fuel [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@...[/img] kJ/g [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@...[/img] kcal/g [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@...[/img] BTU/lb [img]cid:part1.06090708.02040303@...[/img] Hydrogen 141.9 33.9 61,000 Gasoline 47.0 11.3 20,000 Diesel 45.0 10.7 19,300 Ethanol 29.8 7.1 12,000 Propane 49.9 11.9 21,000 Butane 49.2 11.8 21,200 Wood 15.0 3.6 6,000 Coal (Lignite) 15.0 4.4 8,000 Coal (Anthracite) 27.0 7.8 14,000 Natural Gas 54.0 13.0 23,000 Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== On 4/1/2010 6:14 AM, pdstreeter@... wrote: --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, mark ward nomad59@... wrote: > > The Octane make s big differance on top speed. > > I also noticed My Mileage greatly REDUCED when in areas where there was More "CORN" (Higher ethanol) in the gas. > Then revmaaatin wrote: >If you burn moonshine-- >Over 95F, you will be lucky to get your bike to run 60mph indicated. >at least, that has been my experience. Here in Minnesota, 10% gasahol is mandated. My KLR and other bikes run fine on it, although my gas mileage improves a little when I fill up in Wisconsin. Paul Streeter

[Richard Decker]

Sorry folks... I dont wanna ride around on the Hindenburg with all of those "special" drivers out there... At least not with today's technology... -Rich in Newberg, OR

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:51 AM, RobertWichert wrote: Yeah, well, density is an issue too. A tank of hydrogen is just a bit less than a tank of gas. But liquid hydrogen, well, THAT'S a different story. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ======================================================== On 4/1/2010 9:56 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: So you're saying I should be running my KLR on hydrogen? Based upon a quick run of the calculator I should get around 114HP out of my thumper if i do! Where do I sign up? -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "RobertWichert" To: pdstreeter@... Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2010 9:53:29 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Top Speed, now ethanol Heat of Combustion for some common fuels (higher value) Fuel kJ/g kcal/g BTU/lb Hydrogen 141.9 33.9 61,000 Gasoline 47.0 11.3 20,000 Diesel 45.0 10.7 19,300 Ethanol 29.8 7.1 12,000 Propane 49.9 11.9 21,000 Butane 49.2 11.8 21,200 Wood 15.0 3.6 6,000 Coal (Lignite) 15.0 4.4 8,000 Coal (Anthracite) 27.0 7.8 14,000 Natural Gas 54.0 13.0 23,000Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ======================================================== On 4/1/2010 6:14 AM, pdstreeter@... wrote: [quote]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward nomad59@... wrote: > > The Octane make s big differance on top speed. > > I also noticed My Mileage greatly REDUCED when in areas where there was More "CORN" (Higher ethanol) in the gas. > Then revmaaatin wrote: >If you burn moonshine-- >Over 95F, you will be lucky to get your bike to run 60mph indicated. >at least, that has been my experience. Here in Minnesota, 10% gasahol is mandated. My KLR and other bikes run fine on it, although my gas mileage improves a little when I fill up in Wisconsin. Paul Streeter

[/quote] -- - Rich Decker Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote:

> > Heat of Combustion for some common fuels (higher value) Fuel ? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion#> kJ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilojoule>/g > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gram> ? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion#> kcal > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilocalorie>/g > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gram> ? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion#> BTU > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTU>/lb > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_%28mass%29> ? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion#> > Hydrogen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen> 141.9 33.9 61,000 > Gasoline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline> 47.0 11.3 20,000 > Diesel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_fuel> 45.0 10.7 19,300 > Ethanol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol> 29.8 7.1 12,000 > Propane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propane> 49.9 11.9 21,000 > Butane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butane> 49.2 11.8 21,200 > Wood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood> 15.0 3.6 6,000 > Coal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal> (Lignite > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignite>) 15.0 4.4 8,000 > Coal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal> (Anthracite > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthracite>) 27.0 7.8 14,000 > Natural Gas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Gas> 54.0 13.0 23,000 > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 >

Robert, Is the Ethanol listed E-85 or 10% ethanol 89 Octane gasoline? revmaaatin. who is guessing--it is E85

[skypilot110]

Ya, what he said! If you are not comfy on it then spend $12 to stack two together. Being able to wipe the water off them with a shamwow helps too and if you use them to change a tire in the woods and get it all greezy just toss it and buy another one.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > Wal-Mart has sleeping bag pads for 6 bucks... > > -Jeff Khoury