rough idle

[mark ward]

Hey Jeff   Correct me if I am wrong. hooking up the comon little 2 prong plug to the battery for the tender.   I should put a SMALL 2amp fuse in line, because the POSITIVE, BARE one on the bike is always HOT! since the [b]insulated [/b]one coming from the tender is the hot and if the litle rubber cap comes off, and hits any metal, ZAP..  grounded. mark (west Mich)    

[dooden]

Vavles been checked recently ? First I would get some Seafoam, add to fuel and see if it clears up. The surge at idle from 1000~2000 rpm all by itself could be a torn diaphram in the carb. I would still Seafoam it first, sure wont hurt anything. Might as well drain the float bowl. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, jean luc ascencio wrote: > > Hi > > my 1987 A1 KLR 650 developed an idling problem this past week: > the idle is very rough surging from 1000 to 2000 rpm ,and also I noticed a little surging when decelerating > Any ideas for the origin of the problem? > Thanks > > J-L >

[dooden]

Sure about that ? would have to check my tender to confirm. Also if you go to a RV or auto parts store and get a 2-Way Sae connector set you can cut the wires off flush with the body so nothing can make contact, then just plug it into the leads from the battery when Tender is not connected. Thats what I did. I was thinking the exposed end off the tender was the hot lead. Also if you p/u some extra 2-way Sae connectors you can add to lawn tractor, ATV ect ect Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote: > > > > Hey Jeff > > Correct me if I am wrong. > hooking up the comon little 2 prong plug to the battery for the tender. > > I should put a SMALL 2amp fuse in line, because the POSITIVE, BARE one on the bike is always HOT! > since the insulated one coming from the tender is the hot > and if the litle rubber cap comes off, and hits any metal, ZAP.. grounded. > mark (west Mich) >

[Jeff Saline]

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[E Hines]

You have it connected wrong on your battery.  On an SAE plug the bare post is negative from the battery.  I use these connections on Motorola radios and numerous other applications. [b]From:[/b] Dooden [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wed, March 31, 2010 3:27:57 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: Battery tender etc.   Sure about that ? would have to check my tender to confirm. Also if you go to a RV or auto parts store and get a 2-Way Sae connector set you can cut the wires off flush with the body so nothing can make contact, then just plug it into the leads from the battery when Tender is not connected. Thats what I did. I was thinking the exposed end off the tender was the hot lead. Also if you p/u some extra 2-way Sae connectors you can add to lawn tractor, ATV ect ect Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, mark ward wrote: > > > > Hey Jeff > > Correct me if I am wrong. > hooking up the comon little 2 prong plug to the battery for the tender. > > I should put a SMALL 2amp fuse in line, because the POSITIVE, BARE one on the bike is always HOT! > since the insulated one coming from the tender is the hot > and if the litle rubber cap comes off, and hits any metal, ZAP..  grounded. > mark (west Mich) >

[Jeff Saline]

Listers, Sorry, Juno and Yahoo did the vanishing act again. Here's what I sent. Best, Jeff <><><><><><> <><><><><><> Mark, I'd say the exposed prong permanently installed on the bike is ground. Maybe the wires are backwards on the battery. Best, Jeff <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT) mark ward writes: Hey Jeff Correct me if I am wrong. hooking up the comon little 2 prong plug to the battery for the tender. I should put a SMALL 2amp fuse in line, because the POSITIVE, BARE one on the bike is always HOT! since the insulated one coming from the tender is the hot and if the litle rubber cap comes off, and hits any metal, ZAP.. grounded. mark (west Mich) ____________________________________________________________ Refi - Low as 3.32% APR Homeowners: Refi before rates rise. $300k for $1,306/mo. No SSN req'd http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bb3f23beef4461em07vuc

[mark ward]

Ok I rushed. (to much caffeine today)   The sae 2 pin connector, I hooked up to the battery so i could just hook up the tender, and use for heated liner what ever.   The insulated post is fused to Positive, for using as accesories on bike.   BUT the tender's Bare pin wire has a white stripe,  (White is USUALY Negitive), Later I found the tenders box with a variety of connectors, Clamps, cigar plug etc., and it shows, [b]the[/b] [b]white lead wire / BARE pin is POSITIVE, out of the tender. all is well.[/b] [b]THANKS ALL.[/b] [b]  [/b] [b]From:[/b] Jeff Saline [b]To:[/b] nomad59@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wed, March 31, 2010 8:51:07 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Battery tender etc. #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 .ygrps-yiv-1476403872ygrp-photo-title { CLEAR:both;FONT-SIZE:smaller;OVERFLOW:hidden;WIDTH:75px;HEIGHT:15px;TEXT-ALIGN:center;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872ygrp-photo { BORDER-RIGHT:black 1px solid;BACKGROUND-POSITION:center 50%;BORDER-TOP:black 1px solid;BORDER-LEFT:black 1px solid;WIDTH:62px;BORDER-BOTTOM:black 1px solid;BACKGROUND-REPEAT:no-repeat;HEIGHT:62px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:white;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872photo-title A { TEXT-DECORATION:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872photo-title A:active { TEXT-DECORATION:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872photo-title A:hover { TEXT-DECORATION:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872photo-title A:visited { TEXT-DECORATION:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872attach-table DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872attach-row { CLEAR:both;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872attach-table DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872attach-row DIV { FLOAT:left;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 P { CLEAR:both;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:3px;OVERFLOW:hidden;PADDING-TOP:15px;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872ygrp-file { WIDTH:30px;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872attach-table DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872attach-row DIV DIV A { TEXT-DECORATION:none;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872attach-table DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872attach-row DIV DIV SPAN { FONT-WEIGHT:normal;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV.ygrps-yiv-1476403872ygrp-file-title { FONT-WEIGHT:bold;} #ygrps-yiv-1476403872 DIV { MARGIN:0px;} Mark,   I'd say the exposed prong permanently installed on the bike is ground.  Maybe the wires are backwards on the battery.   Best,   Jeff   On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT) mark ward writes:

  Hey Jeff   Correct me if I am wrong. hooking up the comon little 2 prong plug to the battery for the tender.   I should put a SMALL 2amp fuse in line, because the POSITIVE, BARE one on the bike is always HOT! since the [b]insulated [/b]one coming from the tender is the hot and if the litle rubber cap comes off, and hits any metal, ZAP..  grounded. mark (west Mich)    

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[dooden]

Umm I said from the "Tender" is bare, so the battery side is the covered terminal. Need more coffee.. but honestly used a meter when I connected long ago.. and I have stayed at a Holiday Inn more than once. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, E Hines wrote: > > You have it connected wrong on your battery. On an SAE plug the bare post is negative from the battery. I use these connections on Motorola radios and numerous other applications. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dooden > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 3:27:57 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Battery tender etc. > > > Sure about that ? would have to check my tender to confirm. > > Also if you go to a RV or auto parts store and get a 2-Way Sae connector set you can cut the wires off flush with the body so nothing can make contact, then just plug it into the leads from the battery when Tender is not connected. Thats what I did. > > I was thinking the exposed end off the tender was the hot lead. > > Also if you p/u some extra 2-way Sae connectors you can add to lawn tractor, ATV ect ect > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, mark ward wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Jeff > > > > Correct me if I am wrong. > > hooking up the comon little 2 prong plug to the battery for the tender. > > > > I should put a SMALL 2amp fuse in line, because the POSITIVE, BARE one on the bike is always HOT! > > since the insulated one coming from the tender is the hot > > and if the litle rubber cap comes off, and hits any metal, ZAP.. grounded. > > mark (west Mich) > > >