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[hansenj32]

A few years ago I had the dreaded plugged pilot jet, but was lucky and able to get all of the bowl screws & the pilot jet removed. After cleaning the jet (I was amazed at how incredibly small the hole is) and re-assembling everything, the engine ran as it should. I subsequently switched form Sta-Bil to Sea Foam for winter storage and everything seemed to be hunky dory for the past (2) seasons. About a month ago, out of the blue, the pilot jet appears to be plugged again. I really dread going in after it a 2nd time and feel like a fool for not replacing the phillips head screws w/ allen heads while I had it apart last time and pray I can remove them again w/ the carb attached to the engine. I was wondering, those of you who have used Dyna Jet or other kits that utilize larger jets, specifically the pilot, does this seem to help reduce pilot jet plugging? Those of you who use in-line fuel filters, does this seem to help reduce the jet plugging? Lastly, those of you who have converted your float bowl screws to allen head versions, do you recall the thread size and length so I can purchase them ahead of time? Thanks, Jake

[stevedyer@cox.net]

Same here, Jake. After a couple years of problem-free KLR ownership, my A13 developed isymptoms of a clogged jet - hard to start, refused to idle without choke, backfiring on deceleration. Pulled the bowl, removed and cleaned the pilot jet, reassembled, gassed up with Seafoam and she ran fine. I never could determine whether the jet was actually plugged or not but was happy with the results - for a few months. Like deja-vu all over again, she developed the same exact symptoms one day last week. This time I rode away on stumbling half choke through 5 miles of city traffic, massaging the choke to idle through stoplights, to see if it would magically clear itself. Reached my destination and the bike sat for 30 minutes. Hopped back on to leave and she started, idled, and ran as normal. Still does. This also happened the few times I rode it just before the recent jet clean-out - a couple miles of riding (heat?) seemed to lessen or eliminate the effects, but eventually it became bad enough on startup to warrant intervention. Seems to me the jet should either be plugged or not, and I'm wondering if there are forces at work besides the pilot jet that are contributing to these symptoms. Steve in Norman, OK A13, apparently with Schrodingers' pilot jet ----------------- ---- hansenj32 wrote: A few years ago I had the dreaded plugged pilot jet, but was lucky and able to get all of the bowl screws & the pilot jet removed. After cleaning the jet (I was amazed at how incredibly small the hole is) and re-assembling everything, the engine ran as it should. I subsequently switched form Sta-Bil to Sea Foam for winter storage and everything seemed to be hunky dory for the past (2) seasons. About a month ago, out of the blue, the pilot jet appears to be plugged again. I really dread going in after it a 2nd time and feel like a fool for not replacing the phillips head screws w/ allen heads while I had it apart last time and pray I can remove them again w/ the carb attached to the engine. I was wondering, those of you who have used Dyna Jet or other kits that utilize larger jets, specifically the pilot, does this seem to help reduce pilot jet plugging? Those of you who use in-line fuel filters, does this seem to help reduce the jet plugging? Lastly, those of you who have converted your float bowl screws to allen head versions, do you recall the thread size and length so I can purchase them ahead of time? Thanks, Jake ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links

[Jeff Khoury]

Drain your bowl. Drain your bowl. Drain your bowl. Other tips here: http://www.dsrtegl.com/2009/07/care-and-feeding-of-your-carbureted.html -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: stevedyer@... To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:22:47 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Plugged Pilot Jet Again - Larger Jets/In Line Filters Help???? Same here, Jake. After a couple years of problem-free KLR ownership, my A13 developed isymptoms of a clogged jet - hard to start, refused to idle without choke, backfiring on deceleration. Pulled the bowl, removed and cleaned the pilot jet, reassembled, gassed up with Seafoam and she ran fine. I never could determine whether the jet was actually plugged or not but was happy with the results - for a few months. Like deja-vu all over again, she developed the same exact symptoms one day last week. This time I rode away on stumbling half choke through 5 miles of city traffic, massaging the choke to idle through stoplights, to see if it would magically clear itself. Reached my destination and the bike sat for 30 minutes. Hopped back on to leave and she started, idled, and ran as normal. Still does. This also happened the few times I rode it just before the recent jet clean-out - a couple miles of riding (heat?) seemed to lessen or eliminate the effects, but eventually it became bad enough on startup to warrant intervention. Seems to me the jet should either be plugged or not, and I'm wondering if there are forces at work besides the pilot jet that are contributing to these symptoms. Steve in Norman, OK A13, apparently with Schrodingers' pilot jet ----------------- ---- hansenj32 < hansenj32@... > wrote: A few years ago I had the dreaded plugged pilot jet, but was lucky and able to get all of the bowl screws & the pilot jet removed. After cleaning the jet (I was amazed at how incredibly small the hole is) and re-assembling everything, the engine ran as it should. I subsequently switched form Sta-Bil to Sea Foam for winter storage and everything seemed to be hunky dory for the past (2) seasons. About a month ago, out of the blue, the pilot jet appears to be plugged again. I really dread going in after it a 2nd time and feel like a fool for not replacing the phillips head screws w/ allen heads while I had it apart last time and pray I can remove them again w/ the carb attached to the engine. I was wondering, those of you who have used Dyna Jet or other kits that utilize larger jets, specifically the pilot, does this seem to help reduce pilot jet plugging? Those of you who use in-line fuel filters, does this seem to help reduce the jet plugging? Lastly, those of you who have converted your float bowl screws to allen head versions, do you recall the thread size and length so I can purchase them ahead of time? Thanks, Jake ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo ! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:22:47 -0400 writes:

> > Same here, Jake. > > After a couple years of problem-free KLR ownership, my A13 > developed isymptoms of a clogged jet - hard to start, refused to > idle without choke, backfiring on deceleration. Pulled the bowl, > removed and cleaned the pilot jet, reassembled, gassed up with > Seafoam and she ran fine. I never could determine whether the jet > was actually plugged or not but was happy with the results - for a > few months. > > Like deja-vu all over again, she developed the same exact symptoms > one day last week. This time I rode away on stumbling half choke > through 5 miles of city traffic, massaging the choke to idle through > stoplights, to see if it would magically clear itself. Reached my > destination and the bike sat for 30 minutes. Hopped back on to > leave and she started, idled, and ran as normal. Still does. > This also happened the few times I rode it just before the recent > jet clean-out - a couple miles of riding (heat?) seemed to lessen or > eliminate the effects, but eventually it became bad enough on > startup to warrant intervention. > > Seems to me the jet should either be plugged or not, and I'm > wondering if there are forces at work besides the pilot jet that are > contributing to these symptoms. > > Steve in Norman, OK > A13, apparently with Schrodingers' pilot jet

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Steve, Sounds to me like you've got something loose in the float bowl. One time it get sucked up against the pilot jet and clogs or partially clogs the jet causing the rough running issue. Then when the engine is off the vacuum is released from the pilot jet allowing the particle to sink away from the jet. Next time the bike runs the particle doesn't block the jet and everything seems fine. I'm with the suggestion to drain the float bowl. If you haven't done that before it's on the right side of the carb and takes an allen wrench. You can pull it all the way out and let the bowl drain. Then put it back snug but not gorilla tight. It might take a little cranking to get started as you have to pull a vacuum to get the petcock to open and flow fuel. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Phone System Price Quotes Compare phone system prices & save. Find the best deal & save today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=v8ih82siWFxpGBcql0NT1wAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAAAAFAAAAADvfTz4AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEhUxAAAAAA==

[Jeff Saline]

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:24:38 -0000 "hansenj32" writes:

> A few years ago I had the dreaded plugged pilot jet, but was lucky > and able to get all of the bowl screws & the pilot jet removed. > After cleaning the jet (I was amazed at how incredibly small the > hole is) and re-assembling everything, the engine ran as it should. > I subsequently switched form Sta-Bil to Sea Foam for winter storage > and everything seemed to be hunky dory for the past (2) seasons. > About a month ago, out of the blue, the pilot jet appears to be > plugged again. I really dread going in after it a 2nd time and feel > like a fool for not replacing the phillips head screws w/ allen > heads while I had it apart last time and pray I can remove them > again w/ the carb attached to the engine. > > I was wondering, those of you who have used Dyna Jet or other kits > that utilize larger jets, specifically the pilot, does this seem to > help reduce pilot jet plugging? Those of you who use in-line fuel > filters, does this seem to help reduce the jet plugging? Lastly, > those of you who have converted your float bowl screws to allen head > versions, do you recall the thread size and length so I can purchase > them ahead of time? > > Thanks, > Jake

<><><><><> <><><><><> Jake, My notes show the carb float bowl fasteners are 4mm 1.00 pitch 14mm long. If you get stainless you might consider antiseize on the threads to help you out next time you want to remove them. I've used a bronzed sintered filter (clear plastic like cone shaped body with filter inside) since 2003 when I bought my KLR. I've got 29,000 plus smiles on it now I think and no carb problems caused by dirt, rust, particles etc. I do make sure I've got the filter installed in a vertical position. Some folks report having problems with having to switch to reserve early when using a fuel filter. I don't have that issue with mine. No experience with the Dyna Jet or other jets kits. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYcewhnGvAyfmalEWfxCz93s1TMNcoYoqKGjMNL8VXCDo6gPqne/

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

>

SNIP

> I'm with the suggestion to drain the float bowl. > > If you haven't done that before it's on the right side of the carb and > takes an allen wrench. You can pull it all the way out and let the bowl > drain. Then put it back snug but not gorilla tight. It might take a > little cranking to get started as you have to pull a vacuum to get the > petcock to open and flow fuel. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline

One additional thing when/as you drain that bowl-- 1. Drain/screen the fuel into a clean white cloth to see if you capture anything 2. crank the engine with the bowl drain plug removed. That will give you a flush as well. (Catch this fuel in a clean, white cloth as well) CAUTION: DO NOT LOOK AT THAT DRAIN HOLE WHEN YOU CRANK OR YOU WILL GET AN EYE FULL OF FUEL. Please: Place a cloth near the drain hole as it will really pump out the fuel. = A surprising amount of fuel. Just a couple of seconds of cranking will be enough to flush--at least it was for me. This procedure works well if you get some hydrogen2oxygen mixed into your fuel as well revmaaatin.

[Rick McCauley]

Actually just back it out about 1 turn. That will open up the drain on the bottom of the bowl. Another nice thing about that, is that you can put a small hose on the drain nipple, and the gas will go where you want it to, instead of on the engine. Rick A17

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, revmaaatin wrote: From: revmaaatin Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Plugged Pilot Jet Again - Larger Jets/In Line Filters Help???? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 1:59 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > SNIP > I'm with the suggestion to drain the float bowl. > > If you haven't done that before it's on the right side of the carb and > takes an allen wrench. You can pull it all the way out and let the bowl > drain. Then put it back snug but not gorilla tight. It might take a > little cranking to get started as you have to pull a vacuum to get the > petcock to open and flow fuel. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline One additional thing when/as you drain that bowl-- 1. Drain/screen the fuel into a clean white cloth to see if you capture anything 2. crank the engine with the bowl drain plug removed. That will give you a flush as well. (Catch this fuel in a clean, white cloth as well) CAUTION: DO NOT LOOK AT THAT DRAIN HOLE WHEN YOU CRANK OR YOU WILL GET AN EYE FULL OF FUEL. Please: Place a cloth near the drain hole as it will really pump out the fuel. = A surprising amount of fuel. Just a couple of seconds of cranking will be enough to flush--at least it was for me. This procedure works well if you get some hydrogen2oxygen mixed into your fuel as well revmaaatin. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fasteddiecopeman]

> > One additional thing when/as you drain that bowl-- > 1. Drain/screen the fuel into a clean white cloth to see if you capture anything > 2. crank the engine with the bowl drain plug removed. That will give you a flush as well. (Catch this fuel in a clean, white cloth as well) >

I'd do this outdoors with a fire extinguisher close by! Ed

> CAUTION: DO NOT LOOK AT THAT DRAIN HOLE WHEN YOU CRANK OR YOU WILL GET AN EYE FULL OF FUEL. Please: Place a cloth near the drain hole as it will really pump out the fuel. = A surprising amount of fuel. Just a couple of seconds of cranking will be enough to flush--at least it was for me. > > This procedure works well if you get some hydrogen2oxygen mixed into your fuel as well > revmaaatin. >

[Rick McCauley]

Cranking does help flush the bowl better than just draining. What I started doing is, sticking the red tube on your can of carb cleaner up the drain, and flushing it with carb cleaner. This not only flushes, but helps clean any residue that might be starting. Rick A17

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, fasteddiecopeman wrote: From: fasteddiecopeman Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Plugged Pilot Jet Again - Larger Jets/In Line Filters Help???? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:41 AM > > One additional thing when/as you drain that bowl-- > 1. Drain/screen the fuel into a clean white cloth to see if you capture anything > 2. crank the engine with the bowl drain plug removed. That will give you a flush as well. (Catch this fuel in a clean, white cloth as well) > I'd do this outdoors with a fire extinguisher close by! Ed > CAUTION: DO NOT LOOK AT THAT DRAIN HOLE WHEN YOU CRANK OR YOU WILL GET AN EYE FULL OF FUEL. Please: Place a cloth near the drain hole as it will really pump out the fuel. = A surprising amount of fuel. Just a couple of seconds of cranking will be enough to flush--at least it was for me. > > This procedure works well if you get some hydrogen2oxygen mixed into your fuel as well > revmaaatin. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jim Douglas wrote:

> > *2008 Blue KLR-650*. New MEFO Explorer Tires, Tank Bag, (2) Helmets, > Riding Jacket (Bright Yellow), Battery Charger Hookup, New Battery Last > Year, All > fluids and camping equipment (Tent, Pad, Coffee Maker). This bike DOES > NOT burn oil! Runs great about 4600 miles on it. Multiple back surgeries > force sales as > I won't be riding for a long time. Asking $4200.00. Located in > Carrollton TX, about 20 miles from Dallas. Few scratches here and there > but is a 9.5 out of 10! Never > dumped, guess I was not riding hard enough. Took a trip from Dallas to > Hot Springs and was perfect! Has had turn signal recall completed, > needs the wiring harness > thing done. I can't get it to the dealer! Always in garage with blanket > on it. Have been starting it daily and letting it warm up for the past > months. > > Email me for photos. > > Thanks! > Jim Douglas >

Jim, NKLR? A KLR for sale does not get more KLR than that. Hope it goes well for you and a speedy recovery. revmaaatin.