the wave. nklr - chicago

[transalp 1]

I'm one of the many riders that would stop to help someone without regard to what brand is on their gas tank. So, call me an old school waver. My mechanic friend was on his yellow GL1800 coming back from Daytona one year and stopped to help a HD rider. Before he could get off the bike, the man in trouble hollered out something like, "I don't need no help from some rice riding s.o.b." Dan just shrugged and said, "Your loss. I'm a professional motorcycle and aircraft mechanic. You can just sit your a** right there and wait on someone else." and left. eddie

> [Original Message] > From: Joe Nelson > To: > Date: 7/22/2009 8:44:59 AM > Subject: Re: The wave. -NKLR > > Speaking of The Wave, in this month's Motorcyclist magazine, Mike Seate

editorializes against what he calls "one of the sport's most enduring annoyances."

> > He says it used to mean; "Hi, friend. If something goes wrong, I've got

your back." Today, it's more like "Hey, I bought a bike, so I'm as cool as you, right?" Mike goes on to characterize The Wave as an "overt display of kinship between people who've never actually met is big-time phony." And as "showy, self-serving and theatrical." His premise is that it's annoying at best and dangerous at worst.

> > Geez, lighten up, Mike. > > JOE in WI >

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Stupid is as stupid does. Those kind of Harley guys drive me crazy. They aren't all like that. Probably mostly new propagandized riders who have ridden nothing else. All bike manufacturers should give a salute to the Japanese for raising the bar on quality of build and reliability which made all others keep up ot go out of business. Back in the late 60's to take most non Japanese bikes on a cross country trip, well...... you really had to be a good mechanic and go to the right church. If you owned a British bike it was common to rebuild in about 20,000 miles .... and ...hey how bout the brakes and lights back then? My Cushman scooter had about a 1 candlepower headlight. Its a wonder I didn't get killed riding at night on that piece of crap. Its amazing I ever got it to stop. Criswell

On Jul 22, 2009, at 8:32 AM, transalp 1 wrote: > I'm one of the many riders that would stop to help someone without > regard > to what brand is on their gas tank. > So, call me an old school waver. > My mechanic friend was on his yellow GL1800 coming back from > Daytona one > year and stopped to help a HD rider. > Before he could get off the bike, the man in trouble hollered out > something > like, "I don't need no help from some rice riding s.o.b." > Dan just shrugged and said, "Your loss. I'm a professional > motorcycle and > aircraft mechanic. You can just sit your a** right there and wait on > someone else." and left. > eddie > > > [Original Message] > > From: Joe Nelson > > To: > > Date: 7/22/2009 8:44:59 AM > > Subject: Re: The wave. -NKLR > > > > Speaking of The Wave, in this month's Motorcyclist magazine, Mike > Seate > editorializes against what he calls "one of the sport's most enduring > annoyances." > > > > He says it used to mean; "Hi, friend. If something goes wrong, > I've got > your back." Today, it's more like "Hey, I bought a bike, so I'm as > cool as > you, right?" Mike goes on to characterize The Wave as an "overt > display of > kinship between people who've never actually met is big-time > phony." And as > "showy, self-serving and theatrical." His premise is that it's > annoying at > best and dangerous at worst. > > > > Geez, lighten up, Mike. > > > > JOE in WI > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Chris Norloff]

A wave is just a gift. It's from the kind of people who would Say Hi To A Complete Stranger (!!!) There are those who would fill the wave with Amazing Meaning, and those who must determine if you're Okay To Wave To, but that's just missing the point ... waving, Chris [Original Message]

>> From: Joe Nelson >> To: >> Date: 7/22/2009 8:44:59 AM >> Subject: Re: The wave. -NKLR >> >> Speaking of The Wave, in this month's Motorcyclist magazine, Mike Seate >> > editorializes against what he calls "one of the sport's most enduring > annoyances." > >> He says it used to mean; "Hi, friend. If something goes wrong, I've got >> > your back." Today, it's more like "Hey, I bought a bike, so I'm as cool as > you, right?" Mike goes on to characterize The Wave as an "overt display of > kinship between people who've never actually met is big-time phony." And as > "showy, self-serving and theatrical." His premise is that it's annoying at > best and dangerous at worst. > >> Geez, lighten up, Mike. >> >> JOE in WI >> >> >

[V III]

Most people judge based on how they are. There you go... He doesn't deserve a wave. When I received and gave, it was always about overt kinship with a complete stranger. Vlad ________________________________ From: Chris Norloff Cc: KLR650 list DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: The wave. -NKLR A wave is just a gift. It's from the kind of people who would Say Hi To A Complete Stranger (!!!) There are those who would fill the wave with Amazing Meaning, and those who must determine if you're Okay To Wave To, but that's just missing the point ... waving, Chris [Original Message]

>> From: Joe Nelson >> To: >> Date: 7/22/2009 8:44:59 AM >> Subject: Re: The wave. -NKLR >> >> Speaking of The Wave, in this month's Motorcyclist magazine, Mike Seate >> > editorializes against what he calls "one of the sport's most enduring > annoyances." > >> He says it used to mean; "Hi, friend. If something goes wrong, I've got >> > your back." Today, it's more like "Hey, I bought a bike, so I'm as cool as > you, right?" Mike goes on to characterize The Wave as an "overt display of > kinship between people who've never actually met is big-time phony." And as > "showy, self-serving and theatrical." His premise is that it's annoying at > best and dangerous at worst. > >> Geez, lighten up, Mike. >> >> JOE in WI >> >> >

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[Richard Decker]

Meh... I wave to everyone. If they dont wave back, I figure the're new riders... or just plain turds. (exceptions ofcourse when it's not safe or it's obvious they didnt see me). I tend to give a few too many single fingered waves to cagers that dont see me however... Which... I find odd... I'm on a silver KLR, wearing a bright silver helmet, with my high beam on (dont flame me) and never ride in blind spots... Did I mention I'm 6' tall with a 29" inseam and 315 lbs? Kinda hard to miss

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:55 PM, V III wrote: > > > Most people judge based on how they are. There you go... He doesn't deserve > a wave. When I received and gave, it was always about overt kinship with a > complete stranger. > Vlad > > ________________________________ > From: Chris Norloff > > Cc: KLR650 list DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:11:11 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: The wave. -NKLR > > A wave is just a gift. It's from the kind of people who would Say Hi To > A Complete Stranger (!!!) > > There are those who would fill the wave with Amazing Meaning, and those > who must determine if you're Okay To Wave To, but that's just missing > the point ... > > waving, > Chris > > [Original Message] > >> From: Joe Nelson > >> To: > >> Date: 7/22/2009 8:44:59 AM > >> Subject: Re: The wave. -NKLR > >> > >> Speaking of The Wave, in this month's Motorcyclist magazine, Mike Seate > >> > > editorializes against what he calls "one of the sport's most enduring > > annoyances." > > > >> He says it used to mean; "Hi, friend. If something goes wrong, I've got > >> > > your back." Today, it's more like "Hey, I bought a bike, so I'm as cool > as > > you, right?" Mike goes on to characterize The Wave as an "overt display > of > > kinship between people who've never actually met is big-time phony." And > as > > "showy, self-serving and theatrical." His premise is that it's annoying > at > > best and dangerous at worst. > > > >> Geez, lighten up, Mike. > >> > >> JOE in WI > >> > >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- - Rich Decker Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[notanymoore]

KLR 650 is the only bike I own (Red 2006). There are some KLRs around the NW Chicago metro area; most ride alone. I sometimes see a green 2007 KLR in Hoffman Estates. I ride in a group on a regular basis and get a lot of odd looks riding a bright red "rice burner" dual-sport among the HDs, Japanese cruiser and European bikes black leather crowd. In a group, I almost always get a wave response. Riding alone, the "hardcore" Harley crowd tend to ignore wavers. Upscale Harley riders also can be snobbish when in a group, but less so when alone. Must be the proximity to Milwaukee. The crotchrocket crowd waves to almost anyone. Most Japanese cruiser riders do as well. "The wave" in the Chicago area is typically left hand held low with two fingers extended in a moderate "V". I will respond in kind on a straightaway, but will nod when the situation demands two hands on. Flashing headlights is usuallty to warn of a police car. There are quite a few "biker bars" in the Chicago area where the hardcore riders congregate to on a regular basis. The "Broken Oar" along the Fox River attracts quite an eclectic biker mix as well as some boaters. Wave repsonse arounfd there tends to be variable. DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, greg saunders wrote:

> > > Recently I spent a week in Boone, North Carolina. Every single biker down there waves at every other biker regardless of the type of bike. I felt nostalgic for the old days when the wave wasn't even questioned. Part of me enjoys seeing so many people getting into motor biking. Yet with that influx comes a whole bunch of people who know NOTHING about the biker brotherhood. Perhaps soon bikers will be ripping off fellow bikers, just like all the rest of this population. > > Sometimes I long for the good old days. > > Greg > > > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: judjonzz@... > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:49:15 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: The wave. NKLR > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "transalp 1" wrote: > > > > I had a Harley Sportster XL1200R and a Suzuki V-Strom DL1000 at the same time. > > The Harley guys might wave at the XL and would ignore the Suzuki. > > Sport bikers would wave at the DL but not the Sportster. > > Touring riders acted surprised when on either bike I waved and returned the friendly gesture by & large. > > > > > > about 75% of riders I meet on the road will wave. Harleys, Sport bikes, metric cruisers, tourers, DS bikes, etc. In turn, I wave at about 75% of bikes, not necessarily the same ones who wave at me. If i don't wave, it's because I'm paying attention to something else, like traffic, my line through a turn, or scenery. If I notice, I return waves as a courtesy, and if i am not otherwise occupied, I wave to oncoming bikes. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail : Search, add, and share the web's latest sports videos. Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >