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[Tom Zangla]

Hi All... mending a little day by day since I had my May 23rd accident. I still have not decided if I am getting back on the A19. If I do I am wondering what is the best thing to do to prevent a rapid deflation of a tube tire. I know about the rim locks but has anyone have any other good ideas. Since I do not remember anything about the accident I have no way of knowing if I had prior warning of what actually happened when I ran over that 4 inch nail. The man who is getting my A19 back in order was recommending rubber inner tubes but you have to keep putting air in them frequently. I still have some time to think about my riding situation since I was told I have to wait and see if my shoulder bone is going to heal. July 21st is when I have to go back to the docs. I just learned this morning about a friend and co worker at the prison where I work died from his injuries this morning from a motorcycle accident. Someone pulled out in front of him and he had no time to react. Tom Greensburg, Pennsylvania

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 4:14 PM +0000 6/14/09, Tom Zangla wrote:

>Hi All... mending a little day by day since I had my May 23rd >accident. I still have not decided if I am getting back on the A19. >If I do I am wondering what is the best thing to do to prevent a >rapid deflation of a tube tire. I know about the rim locks but has >anyone have any other good ideas.

Bridgestone UHD tubes AND Slime has been the setup I run after rapid deflation of my front tire and separation from the rim sent me under a guard rail and into a ravine in 2001. Mark

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> > At 4:14 PM +0000 6/14/09, Tom Zangla wrote: > >Hi All... mending a little day by day since I had my May 23rd > >accident. I still have not decided if I am getting back on the A19. > >If I do I am wondering what is the best thing to do to prevent a > >rapid deflation of a tube tire. I know about the rim locks but has > >anyone have any other good ideas. > > Bridgestone UHD tubes AND Slime has been the setup I run after rapid > deflation of my front tire and separation from the rim sent me under > a guard rail and into a ravine in 2001. > > Mark >

Mark, For the sake of discussion- Why is this a good solution? revmaaatin. who also subscribes to the (painfully) HD tube theory note: the last time I mentioned not having flats while using those (painfully) HD tubes, my rear K270 with UHD tube found a very-angry 16p nail and kept it; shredded the UHD in a matter sec's. So, I won't mention that I have only had one flat in 5y9m and 40K KLR miles using the HD tubes.

[Robert Waters]

I have been getting very tired of having to "air" up my tires even though I put on new grippers and use some slime. (Perhaps I need to put in more) It seems that when I use CO2 the tire goes down faster. If that is true, there ought to be some other kind of gas that goes down slower. Are there any possibilities here? Robert Waters Huntsville, AR [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Robert Waters]

Did some research. Here is the gas that will not leak through rubber: Hexafluorid I had thought of an invention but it seems someone has beat me to it. Here is the link: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4513803/description.html http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4513803/description.html> I just wish I had a working model. (Hope I did not double post. The first time I posted it came back to me but did not show up on the web site.) Robert --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> , Robert Waters wrote:

> > > I have been getting very tired of having to "air" up my tires even

though I put on new grippers and use some slime. (Perhaps I need to put in more) It seems that when I use CO2 the tire goes down faster. If that is true, there ought to be some other kind of gas that goes down slower. Are there any possibilities here?

> > Robert Waters > Huntsville, AR > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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[The Reverend]

Nitrogen. Its molecules are larger than air so they don't 'seep' through the tire as easily. Also, there's no oxygen or humidity in it to corrode wheels (if that's a problem). I suspect that if it's leaking fast enough to bother you, there's a leak and nitrogen would probably leak out just as fast. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Waters I have been getting very tired of having to "air" up my tires even though I put on new grippers and use some slime. (Perhaps I need to put in more) It seems that when I use CO2 the tire goes down faster. If that is true, there ought to be some other kind of gas that goes down slower. Are there any possibilities here?

[Robert Waters]

Hello Rev, From what I have read about Nitrogen, it does little to help. In fact, because of the cost some consider it a scam. Hexafluoride is MUCH heavier and likely would not leak through the rubber. By the way, I took soap and water and could not find a leak. RW RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Nitrogen. Its molecules are larger than air so they don't 'seep' through the tire as easily. Also, there's no oxygen or humidity in it to corrode wheels (if that's a problem). I suspect that if it's leaking fast enough to bother you, there's a leak and nitrogen would probably leak out just as fast. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

Since the air is 75%+ nitrogen already, I can hardly see much difference in using it over regular air, other than having it be "dry" to eliminate corrosion of the inside of your wheel. If that were the case, if you had a slow leakin' tire and the pores were big enough for the oxygen to escape but not the (slightly) larger nitrogen molecules then eventually you'd end up with almost pure nitrogen after just a couple of top-offs (right?) As in: First fill: 75% nitrogen 25% volume "escapes" Top off: 75% of 25% remaining volume = ~18% of total 18% + 75% = 93% nitrogen after just one top-off. or am I missing something? -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Waters" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:30:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Hello Rev, From what I have read about Nitrogen, it does little to help. In fact, because of the cost some consider it a scam. Hexafluoride is MUCH heavier and likely would not leak through the rubber. By the way, I took soap and water and could not find a leak. RW RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Nitrogen. Its molecules are larger than air so they don't 'seep' through the tire as easily. Also, there's no oxygen or humidity in it to corrode wheels (if that's a problem). I suspect that if it's leaking fast enough to bother you, there's a leak and nitrogen would probably leak out just as fast. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

Things that make you go.... Hmmm Rick A17

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation To: "Robert Waters" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 11:40 AM Since the air is 75%+ nitrogen already, I can hardly see much difference in using it over regular air, other than having it be "dry" to eliminate corrosion of the inside of your wheel. If that were the case, if you had a slow leakin' tire and the pores were big enough for the oxygen to escape but not the (slightly) larger nitrogen molecules then eventually you'd end up with almost pure nitrogen after just a couple of top-offs (right?) As in: First fill: 75% nitrogen 25% volume "escapes" Top off: 75% of 25% remaining volume = ~18% of total 18% + 75% = 93% nitrogen after just one top-off. or am I missing something? -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Waters" To: "DSN KLR650" Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:30:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Hello Rev, From what I have read about Nitrogen, it does little to help. In fact, because of the cost some consider it a scam. Hexafluoride is MUCH heavier and likely would not leak through the rubber. By the way, I took soap and water and could not find a leak. RW RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Nitrogen. Its molecules are larger than air so they don't 'seep' through the tire as easily. Also, there's no oxygen or humidity in it to corrode wheels (if that's a problem). I suspect that if it's leaking fast enough to bother you, there's a leak and nitrogen would probably leak out just as fast. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

Try removing and cleaning the valve core ? Thing I found using small (slow 12v) compressors is that they put air in so slow that dirt/dust has a chance to muck up the seat on the valve, try giving it a bit too much air and blast some out to clear the valve seat. Might just be dirt in them. ( Keep the covered tightly ) Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Waters" wrote: > > Hello Rev, From what I have read about Nitrogen, it does little to help. > In fact, because of the cost some consider it a scam. Hexafluoride is > MUCH heavier and likely would not leak through the rubber. By the way, > I took soap and water and could not find a leak. RW RE: > [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation > Nitrogen. > Its molecules are larger than air so they don't 'seep' through the tire > as > easily. Also, there's no oxygen or humidity in it to corrode wheels (if > that's a problem). > > I suspect that if it's leaking fast enough to bother you, there's a leak > and > nitrogen would probably leak out just as fast. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >