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Post by k650 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:50 pm

>I believe LIDAR refers to the police "clocking" you thru a measured >distance, ie: via airplane. Therefore, undetectable UNLESS you notice the >airplane. > Ed >
One situation where LIDAR has notable non-scientific application is in traffic speed law enforcement, for vehicle speed measurement, as a technology alternative to radar guns. The technology for this application is small enough to be mounted in a hand held camera "gun" and permits a particular vehicle's speed to be determined from a stream of traffic. Unlike RADAR which relies on doppler shifts to directly measure speed, police lidar relies on the principle of time-of-flight to calculate speed. The equivalent radar based systems are often not able to isolate particular vehicles from the traffic stream and are generally too large to be hand held. LIDAR has the distinct advantage of being able to pick out one vehicle in a cluttered traffic situation as long as the operator is aware of the limitations imposed by the range and beam divergence. Contrary to popular belief LIDAR does not suffer from "sweep" error when the operator uses the equipment correctly and when the LIDAR unit is equipped with algorithms that are able to detect when this has occurred. A combination of signal strength monitoring, receive gate timing, target position prediction and pre-filtering of the received signal wavelength prevents this from occurring. Should the beam illuminate sections of the vehicle with different reflectivity or the aspect of the vehicle changes during measurement that causes the received signal strength to be changed then the LIDAR unit will reject the measurement thereby producing speed readings of high integrity. For LIDAR units to be used in law enforcement applications a rigorous approval procedure is usually completed before deployment. Jelly-bean shaped vehicles are usually equipped with a vertical registration plate that, when illuminated causes a high integrity reflection to be returned to the LIDAR, many reflections and an averaging technique in the speed measurement process increase the integrity of the speed reading. In locations that do not require that a front or rear registration plate is fitted headlamps and rear-reflectors provide an almost ideal retro-reflective surface overcoming the reflections from uneven or non-compliant reflective surfaces thereby eliminating "sweep" error. It is these mechanisms which cause concern that LIDAR is somehow unreliable. Most traffic LIDAR systems send out a stream of approximately 100 pulses over the span of three-tenths of a second. A "black box," proprietary statistical algorithm picks and chooses which progressively shorter reflections to retain from the pulses over the short fraction of a second. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIDAR Walt

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Post by revmaaatin » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:15 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lourd Baltimore wrote:
> > Re: UK Road Safety > > Also, the level of rider training is orders of magnitude better than what is required in the States. > I moved here from the States a couple years ago for an assignment. The rider training here is great > and consists of practical road time while being followed by an instructor. It makes MSF look like a joke. > The same for a car license. An evaluator is your passenger on local roads not some cone run in a DMV lot. > On many of the roadshere you'll also see posters for the "Think Bike" road safety campaign ( http://www.dft.gov.uk/think/focusareas/motorcycling?page=Campaign&whoareyou_id= ) which focuses on all motorists (including motorcyclists themselves) to be aware. > Lane splitting/sharing/filtering is kosher here as well. > Recently in London, motorcycles were allowed to use the bus lanes just like cyclists. > Speed cameras, in the name of improving road safety, are supposed to be clearly identified in addition to road signs announcing > that they may be active in the area. > > That being said, all is not rosy. > Police are becoming more sneaky with speed cameras. > The free motorcycle parking on London, may be not be around for much longer (and other municipalities will surely follow suit). > Where I live, a law enforcement program focusing on two-wheelers (http://microsites.lincolnshire.gov.uk/lrsp/section.asp?docId=60357), has gone into operation. > There is a movement to reduce national speed limit on single-carriageway (aka "two-lane") roads from 60 to 50 mph in rural areas. > The plan is enforce this using average speed cameras which calculate you speed over a few miles by using your transit time between fixed points. > The DSA (basically the U.K.'s DMV) has reduced the number of test centres that can handle motorcycle applicants making it more inconvenient to take your test. > > Blah-blah-rant-rant...UK is a nanny state...in the end I would love all the the good parts of the road system to be adopted in the states. > > Roundabouts and increased driver/rider requirements being a great start. > > Josh > A7 (waiting for me back in the Colonies) > .
Lourd Josh- If you need someone to keep the gas changed for you--let me know--I'll do my best! Stay away from those pork pies. YUCK> revmaaatin.

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Post by revmaaatin » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:49 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "k650" wrote:
> > >I believe LIDAR refers to the police "clocking" you thru a measured > >distance, ie: via airplane. Therefore, undetectable UNLESS you notice the > >airplane. > > Ed > > > > One situation where LIDAR has notable non-scientific application is in > traffic speed law enforcement, for vehicle speed measurement, as a > technology alternative to radar guns. The technology for this application is > small enough to be mounted in a hand held camera "gun" and permits a > particular vehicle's speed to be determined from a stream of traffic. Unlike > RADAR which relies on doppler shifts to directly measure speed, police lidar > relies on the principle of time-of-flight to calculate speed. The equivalent > radar based systems are often not able to isolate particular vehicles from > the traffic stream and are generally too large to be hand held. LIDAR has > the distinct advantage of being able to pick out one vehicle in a cluttered > traffic situation as long as the operator is aware of the limitations > imposed by the range and beam divergence. Contrary to popular belief LIDAR > does not suffer from "sweep" error when the operator uses the equipment > correctly and when the LIDAR unit is equipped with algorithms that are able > to detect when this has occurred. A combination of signal strength > monitoring, receive gate timing, target position prediction and > pre-filtering of the received signal wavelength prevents this from > occurring. Should the beam illuminate sections of the vehicle with different > reflectivity or the aspect of the vehicle changes during measurement that > causes the received signal strength to be changed then the LIDAR unit will > reject the measurement thereby producing speed readings of high integrity. > For LIDAR units to be used in law enforcement applications a rigorous > approval procedure is usually completed before deployment. Jelly-bean shaped > vehicles are usually equipped with a vertical registration plate that, when > illuminated causes a high integrity reflection to be returned to the LIDAR, > many reflections and an averaging technique in the speed measurement process > increase the integrity of the speed reading. In locations that do not > require that a front or rear registration plate is fitted headlamps and > rear-reflectors provide an almost ideal retro-reflective surface overcoming > the reflections from uneven or non-compliant reflective surfaces thereby > eliminating "sweep" error. It is these mechanisms which cause concern that > LIDAR is somehow unreliable. Most traffic LIDAR systems send out a stream of > approximately 100 pulses over the span of three-tenths of a second. A "black > box," proprietary statistical algorithm picks and chooses which > progressively shorter reflections to retain from the pulses over the short > fraction of a second. > > Source: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIDAR > > Walt >
So, Walt, In cowboy language, would you say LIDAR is closer to: 1)Vodoo majik, or just the plain every-day 2)smoke and mirrors? revmaaatin.

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Post by Doug Herr » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:09 am

Not sure if that long snippet answered one key point here. LIDAR is simply a laser/light based form of RADAR. LIDAR is: "LIght Detection And Ranging" RADAR is: "RAdio Detection And Ranging" LIDAR happens to be better at picking out a single car in a group. -- Doug Herr doug@... A16 in Oakland, California

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Post by fasteddiecopeman » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:05 am

I think what I was referring to where they time you from an aircraft is called "VASCAR" or something similar. Ed

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Post by klrbugeater » Sun May 17, 2009 12:45 pm

Hi Group, There is a bright green/black KLR for sale in San Diego. $4,000. Add says under 1,000 miles. Here's the link: http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/mcy/1175032774.html

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