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[Jim Tegler]

Howdy, The cops have switched to measuring speed with a radiation different than the old fashioned radar. Is that LIDAR? What is it? I am rather disgruntled that safety seems to be a defunct concept in terms of enforcing traffic regulations. The traffic tickets are now handed out on the basis of traps. My irritation spawns from my being ticketed for speeding twice in the last few years. On both occasions the safety of the driving conditions had no bearing on the infraction. I long for the old days when the cop would consider your record and the road conditions in determining one's recklessness. Now it seems that you are driving as little as 3 m.p.h over the speed limit and you are fined large amounts! I'll stop grumbling and go back to lurking... Jim A5 Posted by: "The Reverend" reverend@... baroonvondipshitsky Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:35 am (PDT) Radar is typically effective around 1/4" miles, but can in some cases be used up to two miles. LIDAR is more accurate and at shorter distances (around 1/4" mile). -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of D Critchley Other than "From sea to shining sea, and border to grubby border", does anyone know the actual range of police radar? _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 helps keep your personal info safe. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655581

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

It is just a money maker is all it is. The last ticket I got was out just east of El Paso. I was doing 81 in a 70 zone, me failing to realize I had just passed the speed limit sign from 80 mph down to 70 mph. This is on Interstate 10 Where you could safely do 100 mph or more. A long straight well paved road where you can see for miles and the weather is usually severe clear. The ticket would have costs me $230 something bucks but because I chose to get an Internet lawyer to keep it off my record, it wound up costing me $437 ....... for 11 miles over on a perfectly straight well paved road in severe clear weather. The school zones are also a money maker. If they really cared about your children's safety in school zones, they would do what Mexico does in every small town you go through there and install bone crunching oil pan crunching road humps (or topas I think they call them). That way if you are whizzing through a school zone at 40 - 60 mph in your Porsche, you will regret that decision. Very simple and effective but not a money maker for the city or state. Topas aren't much of a problem for KLR riders however. Another thing is, I read a report on motorcycle safety and the safest country to ride in was England. Because??? .... roundabouts instead of using red lights or stop signs. You can't run a roundabout. I have driven all over France where they also use them a lot and the traffic flows a lot better ... and less danger. The red light cameras installed where I live will ticket you if you pull past the white line trying to get a better view at a blind intersection. Another money maker. If you are ever in El Asso ... I mean El Paso, slow down, radar is everywhere there .... making money. Criswell

On Apr 26, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Jim Tegler wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > The cops have switched to measuring speed with a radiation > different than the old fashioned radar. Is that LIDAR? What is it? > > I am rather disgruntled that safety seems to be a defunct concept > in terms of enforcing traffic regulations. The traffic tickets are > now handed out on the basis of traps. My irritation spawns from my > being ticketed for speeding twice in the last few years. On both > occasions the safety of the driving conditions had no bearing on > the infraction. I long for the old days when the cop would consider > your record and the road conditions in determining one's > recklessness. Now it seems that you are driving as little as 3 > m.p.h over the speed limit and you are fined large amounts! I'll > stop grumbling and go back to lurking... > > Jim A5 > > Posted by: "The Reverend" > reverend@... > > > baroonvondipshitsky > > > > Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:35 am (PDT) > > Radar is typically effective around 1/4" miles, but can in some > cases be > > used up to two miles. > > LIDAR is more accurate and at shorter distances (around 1/4" mile). > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of D Critchley > > Other than "From sea to shining sea, and border to grubby border", > does > > anyone know the actual range of police radar? > > __________________________________________________________ > Internet Explorer 8 helps keep your personal info safe. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655581 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[D Critchley]

I have thought for years that the reason that speed is considered a major safety problem is simply because it is easy to measure. Carelessness is hard to prove, inattention is hard to prove, daydreaming is hard to deal with, but speeding is the easiest pigeon in the flock, so it gets the blame and brings in the cash. Similar thinking for the prohibition experiment, the "War" on drugs and various other things. Not hard to figure out a way to remove the profit from illegal drug sales, but those concepts are nowhere near as politically attractive as "Fighting a War" on the things we don't like. The air is getting pretty thin standing up on this soap box, so I will quit and go watch the snow come down. DC roncriswell@... wrote:

> > > It is just a money maker is all it is. The last ticket I got was out > just east of El Paso. I was doing 81 in a 70 zone, me failing to > realize I had just passed the speed limit sign from 80 mph down to 70 > mph >

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[Jim Douglas]

D Critchley wrote:

> > > I have thought for years that the reason that speed is considered a > major safety problem is simply because it is easy to measure. > Carelessness is hard to prove, inattention is hard to prove, daydreaming > is hard to deal with, but speeding is the easiest pigeon in the flock, > so it gets the blame and brings in the cash. > Similar thinking for the prohibition experiment, the "War" on drugs and > various other things. Not hard to figure out a way to remove the profit > from illegal drug sales, but those concepts are nowhere near as > politically attractive as "Fighting a War" on the things we don't like. > The air is getting pretty thin standing up on this soap box, so I will > quit and go watch the snow come down. > DC > > roncriswell@... wrote: > > > > > > It is just a money maker is all it is. The last ticket I got was out > > just east of El Paso. I was doing 81 in a 70 zone, me failing to > > realize I had just passed the speed limit sign from 80 mph down to 70 > > mph > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

There was a TV show on one night, some rich guy wanted to beat the cross the country speed record, NY -> LA. Dude he had everything including airplanes flying overhead with radar looking for the cops and communicating back to the driver, he had tons of stuff installed in the car, don't remember what model car but he was hauling ass! I don't recall if he made it or not but at some places he was well above the speed limit for long periods of time and it would show how they would be hiding over hills, etc. Best thing I saw recently was paint for your license place so that the photo's taken it do not process and just display white! I thought I would be way cooler to have some template where you could write something that would display on the photo, FU comes to mind! BTW, typically don't speed in the car, been in TX for 14 years now and after moving here from LA as amazed that folks actually could go 75MPH! Living in LA you would never get over 65MPH due to traffic for what seemed like thousands of CHP's. and can't imagine what traffic is like out there now? JimD

[Stephen Grisanti]

"he had tons of stuff installed in the car, don't remember what model car but he was hauling ass! " I think he was driving a heavily prepped BMW M5. Made several attempts, getting farther each time before finally breaking the record. According to an article in Car and Driver he'd continously calculate his required speed for the remainder of the trip and if it looked impossible, he'd fold that attempt. Stephen

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Jim Douglas wrote: From: Jim Douglas Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Police Radar, NKLR ? To: "klr" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 3:33 PM D Critchley wrote: > > > I have thought for years that the reason that speed is considered a > major safety problem is simply because it is easy to measure. > Carelessness is hard to prove, inattention is hard to prove, daydreaming > is hard to deal with, but speeding is the easiest pigeon in the flock, > so it gets the blame and brings in the cash. > Similar thinking for the prohibition experiment, the "War" on drugs and > various other things. Not hard to figure out a way to remove the profit > from illegal drug sales, but those concepts are nowhere near as > politically attractive as "Fighting a War" on the things we don't like. > The air is getting pretty thin standing up on this soap box, so I will > quit and go watch the snow come down. > DC > > roncriswell@... wrote: > > > > > > It is just a money maker is all it is. The last ticket I got was out > > just east of El Paso. I was doing 81 in a 70 zone, me failing to > > realize I had just passed the speed limit sign from 80 mph down to 70 > > mph > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > There was a TV show on one night, some rich guy wanted to beat the cross the country speed record, NY -> LA. Dude he had everything including airplanes flying overhead with radar looking for the cops and communicating back to the driver, he had tons of stuff installed in the car, don't remember what model car but he was hauling ass! I don't recall if he made it or not but at some places he was well above the speed limit for long periods of time and it would show how they would be hiding over hills, etc. Best thing I saw recently was paint for your license place so that the photo's taken it do not process and just display white! I thought I would be way cooler to have some template where you could write something that would display on the photo, FU comes to mind! BTW, typically don't speed in the car, been in TX for 14 years now and after moving here from LA as amazed that folks actually could go 75MPH! Living in LA you would never get over 65MPH due to traffic for what seemed like thousands of CHP's. and can't imagine what traffic is like out there now? JimD ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Grisanti wrote:

> > "he had tons of stuff installed in the car, don't remember what model car but he was hauling ass! " > > I think he was driving a heavily prepped BMW M5. Made several attempts, getting farther each time before finally breaking the record. According to an article in Car and Driver he'd continously calculate his required speed for the remainder of the trip and if it looked impossible, he'd fold that attempt. > > Stephen >

Stephen- This is like reading a who-done-it and the last chapter is missing. Where did this 'challenge' start, end, and just how fast/time elapsed? revmaaatin.

[Lourd Baltimore]

Re: UK Road Safety Also, the level of rider training is orders of magnitude better than what is required in the States. I moved here from the States a couple years ago for an assignment. The rider training here is great and consists of practical road time while being followed by an instructor. It makes MSF look like a joke. The same for a car license. An evaluator is your passenger on local roads not some cone run in a DMV lot. On many of the roadshere you'll also see posters for the "Think Bike" road safety campaign ( http://www.dft.gov.uk/think/focusareas/motorcycling?page=Campaign&whoareyou_id= ) which focuses on all motorists (including motorcyclists themselves) to be aware. Lane splitting/sharing/filtering is kosher here as well. Recently in London, motorcycles were allowed to use the bus lanes just like cyclists. Speed cameras, in the name of improving road safety, are supposed to be clearly identified in addition to road signs announcing that they may be active in the area. That being said, all is not rosy. Police are becoming more sneaky with speed cameras. The free motorcycle parking on London, may be not be around for much longer (and other municipalities will surely follow suit). Where I live, a law enforcement program focusing on two-wheelers (http://microsites.lincolnshire.gov.uk/lrsp/section.asp?docId=60357), has gone into operation. There is a movement to reduce national speed limit on single-carriageway (aka "two-lane") roads from 60 to 50 mph in rural areas. The plan is enforce this using average speed cameras which calculate you speed over a few miles by using your transit time between fixed points. The DSA (basically the U.K.'s DMV) has reduced the number of test centres that can handle motorcycle applicants making it more inconvenient to take your test. Blah-blah-rant-rant...UK is a nanny state...in the end I would love all the the good parts of the road system to be adopted in the states. Roundabouts and increased driver/rider requirements being a great start. Josh A7 (waiting for me back in the Colonies) . ________________________________ From: "roncriswell@..." To: Jim Tegler Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:56:22 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Police Radar, NKLR ? It is just a money maker is all it is. The last ticket I got was out just east of El Paso. I was doing 81 in a 70 zone, me failing to realize I had just passed the speed limit sign from 80 mph down to 70 mph. This is on Interstate 10 Where you could safely do 100 mph or more. A long straight well paved road where you can see for miles and the weather is usually severe clear. The ticket would have costs me $230 something bucks but because I chose to get an Internet lawyer to keep it off my record, it wound up costing me $437 ....... for 11 miles over on a perfectly straight well paved road in severe clear weather. The school zones are also a money maker. If they really cared about your children's safety in school zones, they would do what Mexico does in every small town you go through there and install bone crunching oil pan crunching road humps (or topas I think they call them). That way if you are whizzing through a school zone at 40 - 60 mph in your Porsche, you will regret that decision. Very simple and effective but not a money maker for the city or state. Topas aren't much of a problem for KLR riders however. Another thing is, I read a report on motorcycle safety and the safest country to ride in was England. Because??? .... roundabouts instead of using red lights or stop signs. You can't run a roundabout. I have driven all over France where they also use them a lot and the traffic flows a lot better ... and less danger. The red light cameras installed where I live will ticket you if you pull past the white line trying to get a better view at a blind intersection. Another money maker. If you are ever in El Asso ... I mean El Paso, slow down, radar is everywhere there .... making money. Criswell

On Apr 26, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Jim Tegler wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > The cops have switched to measuring speed with a radiation > different than the old fashioned radar. Is that LIDAR? What is it? > > I am rather disgruntled that safety seems to be a defunct concept > in terms of enforcing traffic regulations. The traffic tickets are > now handed out on the basis of traps. My irritation spawns from my > being ticketed for speeding twice in the last few years. On both > occasions the safety of the driving conditions had no bearing on > the infraction. I long for the old days when the cop would consider > your record and the road conditions in determining one's > recklessness. Now it seems that you are driving as little as 3 > m.p.h over the speed limit and you are fined large amounts! I'll > stop grumbling and go back to lurking... > > Jim A5 > > Posted by: "The Reverend" > reverend@robdiesel. com > > > baroonvondipshitsky > > > > Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:35 am (PDT) > > Radar is typically effective around 1/4" miles, but can in some > cases be > > used up to two miles. > > LIDAR is more accurate and at shorter distances (around 1/4" mile). > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com] On > > Behalf Of D Critchley > > Other than "From sea to shining sea, and border to grubby border", > does > > anyone know the actual range of police radar? > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Internet Explorer 8 helps keep your personal info safe. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655581 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Stephen Grisanti]

Evidently there has always been a cross-country record subculture popularized by Car And Driver with its "Cannonball Baker Sea-to-Shining-Sea Memorial Trophy Dash" in the '70 and '80s with the long-time record held by Dan Gurney and Brock Yates in a Ferrari Daytona in something like 36 hours. The CD route was from the Red Ball Garage in Manhattan to Redondo Beach CA. I don't know the current record or if there is still an established start/finish point. Stephen

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, revmaaatin wrote: From: revmaaatin Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Police Radar, NKLR ? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:07 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Grisanti wrote: > > "he had tons of stuff installed in the car, don't remember what model car but he was hauling ass! " > > I think he was driving a heavily prepped BMW M5. Made several attempts, getting farther each time before finally breaking the record. According to an article in Car and Driver he'd continously calculate his required speed for the remainder of the trip and if it looked impossible, he'd fold that attempt. > > Stephen > Stephen- This is like reading a who-done-it and the last chapter is missing. Where did this 'challenge' start, end, and just how fast/time elapsed? revmaaatin. ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[D Critchley]

The "Three Flags Classic" held by the SCMA (Southern California M/C Assn), is a relic of the days when car drivers took up the challenge to drive from somewhere in Mexico to somewhere in Canada in the unreliable vehicles on awful roads with no mechanic for miles and no phone service, (and the meaning of "Tyre thread" has changed since then). The idea was revived in 1975 for bikes and run annually since. It can be done on a KLR. DC Stephen Grisanti wrote:

> > > Evidently there has always been a cross-country record subculture > popularized by Car And Driver with its "Cannonball Baker > Sea-to-Shining-Sea Memorial Trophy Dash" in the '70 and '80s with the > long-time record held by Dan Gurney and Brock Yates in a Ferrari > Daytona in something like 36 hours. The CD route was from the Red > Ball Garage in Manhattan to Redondo Beach CA. I don't know the . > >

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[fasteddiecopeman]

I believe LIDAR refers to the police "clocking" you thru a measured distance, ie: via airplane. Therefore, undetectable UNLESS you notice the airplane. Ed

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jim Tegler wrote: > > > Howdy, > > The cops have switched to measuring speed with a radiation different than the old fashioned radar. Is that LIDAR? What is it? >