spam-high: [dsn_klr650] dsn_klr650 tire change

[Djmahle@aol.com]

I just put a new set of Avon Gripsters, with tubes,?on my KLR.? I am having trouble getting the tires to seat uniformly and have tried high air pressure and the old soapy water trick to no avail.? I know they used to make some stuff called Ruglide? for putting on tires.? Maybe they still do.? Have never had this trouble with off road tires.? Any suggestions?? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fred Hink]

Make sure your rim tape or tube is not under the bead of the tire. Soapy water should work fine. Is the rim and tire bead clean and smooth? Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead

----- Original Message ----- From: djmahle@... To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Seating new tires I just put a new set of Avon Gripsters, with tubes,?on my KLR.? I am having trouble getting the tires to seat uniformly and have tried high air pressure and the old soapy water trick to no avail.? I know they used to make some stuff called Ruglide? for putting on tires.? Maybe they still do.? Have never had this trouble with off road tires.? Any suggestions?? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Larry]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, djmahle@... wrote:

> > I just put a new set of Avon Gripsters, with tubes,?on my KLR.? I am having trouble getting the tires to seat uniformly and have tried high air pressure and the old soapy water trick to no avail.? I know they used to make some stuff called Ruglide? for putting on tires.? Maybe they still do.? Have never had this trouble with off road tires.? Any suggestions?? > >

I have always had problems getting Gripsters to seat properly on the front wheel. Even after I get them right, they may go off center when riding and create a vibration. I installed a Gripster rear on my KLR last year but did some research prior to doing it....Never use soapy water to install a tire. Use plain water or Talcum Powder. I used Johnsons Baby Powder and had no problems. I watched a bunch of utube videos on motorcycle tire changing and balancing and got some real handy tips. There is a simple static wheel balancer on there that uses a 3/8" diam. piece of steel rod and 2 small roller bearings that works perfect. About $25 including some strips of stick on weights. LB>

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" wrote: There is a simple static wheel balancer on there that uses a 3/8" diam. piece of steel rod and 2 small roller bearings that works perfect. About $25 including some strips of stick on weights. > LB> > Larry, You also have a static wheel balancer without the $25 tool. Remove the brake caliper from the swing arm/fork, and of course the chain, for the same effect. The bike should be 'level' and the rear wheel should be close to correct alignment and the front wheel pointed straight ahead to eliminate/reduce stiction as it turns. Others have done it off-bike by suspending the wheel between two saw horses or other device of equal height. Some suggest that the wheel bearings create drag using these two methods--thus effecting a perfect solution. shrug. Its a KLR, not a space shuttle. It works for me (when I do it). revmaaatin.

[Tumu Rock]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> > > Larry, > > Others have done it off-bike by suspending the wheel between two saw horses or other device of equal height. Some suggest that the wheel bearings create drag using these two methods--thus effecting a perfect solution. >

I've never quite understood this reasoning. If I want the wheel to be balanced when I'm running down the road, then why would I eliminate one of the factors in the wheel's rotational pattern (the wheel bearings)? Obviously, though, I am an idiot. I balance my tires the old fashioned way, run 'em through mud and fugghedaboutit... da Vermonster

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Tumu Rock" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > > > Larry, > > > > Others have done it off-bike by suspending the wheel between two saw horses or other device of equal height. Some suggest that the wheel bearings create drag using these two methods--thus effecting a perfect solution. > > > > I've never quite understood this reasoning. If I want the wheel to be balanced when I'm running down the road, then why would I eliminate one of the factors in the wheel's rotational pattern (the wheel bearings)? Obviously, though, I am an idiot. I balance my tires the old fashioned way, run 'em through mud and fugghedaboutit... > > da Vermonster >

Ah, but you are using the perfect solution-- Vermont mud! which is definitly different than say, South Dakota mud. Ours is flavored with bovine greens and yours is maple flavored. Sitting in the rodeo chute(s) Friday and Saturday, I had a rank bull offer me some South Daktoa mud, and it definitelly did not have a maple taste. revmaaatin.

[Chris Norloff]

Just an old valve core and some wire? Sounds good to me. And it'd pack smaller. thx Chris geobas wrote:

> In 1998 I made a dozen or so valve stem tools and gave them away to > friends including Jake who made and sold some. Jake made his as a > machinist would. They were a work of art. I did mine as a picture > framer would. The tool it self is very simple and can be made for > around $5. > > George > Rancho Bernardo, CA > > > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Chris Norloff wrote: > >> Aerostich sells a $24 tool to pull the valve stem through the hole in >> the rim >> http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/Innertube-Value-Stem-Snake-p-21154.html >> >> Chris >> >