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J Fortner
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Post by J Fortner » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:25 pm

I have the natural or transparent whatever they call it IMS tank. I holds right at 8 gallons, I don't have to dink with shrouds or fasteners anymore, that was work $225 to me right there. Less agravation in my life. I can ride the KLR 350 miles in between fill ups comfortably, I need to take spare fuel and push it but have not yet, all for $225. I could really give a whatever what is looks like. If I really cared what my dualsport looked like I would have dropped much more money on a KTM 650 Adventure. I could really care if the tank yellows, I can see how much gas the tank has without stopping. The KLR is a dualsport bike, dualsport bikes like dirt bikes get dirty. KLR's are not beauty queens, not Harleys, or Ducatis or whatever pretty bike out there. In my mind there is something about seeing a seasoned KLR out on the trail or the road or wherever doing what they do best. Go everywhere. KLR's are appreciated in their own utilitarian way. /rant off - I feel much better now, just had to get that off my chest. No back to the which wax is best for my tank, which plastic cleaner is best for my KLR plastic threads Ride on Jim Fortner Plano, TX

Denis Dimick
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Post by Denis Dimick » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:29 pm

So the layman in me is starting to think that in order to have a happy IMS tank, I'm supposed to not use it like I do my steal tank? (fill it with gas, ride until empty, fill again) Any of you PhD's out there want to translate this for me? ( small words for those of us with small minds ;) ) Thanks, Denis
On 9/9/05, Dirk Beer wrote: > I'm getting ready to buy an IMS tank... just for information, here is a > reply I got from them today: > > me: > >thanks for your reply. I'm interested in the white or black tank. Do either > of these have better characteristics as far as permeability, or UV > resistance? Is a >fluorinated option available? > > IMS rep (who has been very helpful): > > As far as tank colors being any better than the other, the answer is no. > The only differences really between any of the two would be between a > natural and one >of the colored tanks, where the natural will eventually > yellow, but but you can see your fuel. As far as the solid colors, you will > never seen it yellow, but you cannot >really see your fuel through it. > Permeability concerned, our tanks are made with polyurethene crosslink, > which is actually fairly porous so it will permeate to a >degree, but like I > said, only the natural tanks will visibly yellow. We do not offer > fluorination unfortunately, the best suggestion we can make is to just keep > rinsing >out your tank with water after every ride to keep it up as well as > possible. I hope this answered your questions. Thanks for your inquiry! > > Dirk > > > -- > "You know, I have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with > frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!" > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

J Fortner
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Post by J Fortner » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:41 pm

On 9/9/05, Denis Dimick wrote:
> So the layman in me is starting to think that in order to have a happy > IMS tank, I'm supposed to not use it like I do my steal tank? (fill it > with gas, ride until empty, fill again)
I treat the IMS tank exactly like the OEM tank. Keep it full of gas to keep the gas/alcohol or additives from absorbing a lot of water from the atmosphere. Turn the gas over every one to three weeks via riding or putting it in my cages. JF

Dirk Beer
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Post by Dirk Beer » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:54 pm

Jim, I don't care about discoloration either... I wanted to find out if any of the tanks lost less fuel through the walls (yes I know it's a tiny amount) or were less likely to deteriorate in sunlight. From IMS's response, sounds like they are all the same in that regard. Probably will pick a color I like, though :-) The thing that's finally made me decide to get it is I'm sick of f*n fuel starvation from the stock venting system. I decalifornicated my fuel system & replaced a bad grommet at the gas cap and still have problems. Also I'm now commuting 140miles some days & don't want to stop several days a week to fuel up. Dirk A18
On 9/9/05, J Fortner wrote: > > I have the natural or transparent whatever they call it IMS tank. I > holds right at 8 gallons, I don't have to dink with shrouds or > fasteners anymore, that was work $225 to me right there. Less > agravation in my life. I can ride the KLR 350 miles in between fill > ups comfortably, I need to take spare fuel and push it but have not > yet, all for $225. > I could really give a whatever what is looks like. If I really cared > what my dualsport looked like I would have dropped much more money on > a KTM 650 Adventure. I could really care if the tank yellows, I can > see how much gas the tank has without stopping. The KLR is a dualsport > bike, dualsport bikes like dirt bikes get dirty. KLR's are not beauty > queens, not Harleys, or Ducatis or whatever pretty bike out there. In > my mind there is something about seeing a seasoned KLR out on the > trail or the road or wherever doing what they do best. Go everywhere. > KLR's are appreciated in their own utilitarian way. > /rant off - I feel much better now, just had to get that off my chest. > No back to the which wax is best for my tank, which plastic cleaner is > best for my KLR plastic threads > > Ride on > Jim Fortner > Plano, TX > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.comhttp://www.dualsportnews.com> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.htmlhttp://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- "You know, I have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dirk Beer
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Post by Dirk Beer » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:07 pm

On 9/9/05, Denis Dimick wrote:
> > So the layman in me is starting to think that in order to have a happy > IMS tank, I'm supposed to not use it like I do my steal tank? (fill it > with gas, ride until empty, fill again)
I would guess there's no need to worry unless you are really obsessive-compulsive about keeping your tank looking brand new. Any of you PhD's out there want to translate this for me? ( small
> words for those of us with small minds ;) )
"Only an anal ninny would wash out their tank with water every day" How's that ? ;-) cheers, Dirk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Kurt Grife
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Post by Kurt Grife » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:19 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Dirk Beer wrote:
> Jim, > I don't care about discoloration either... I wanted to find out if
any of
> the tanks lost less fuel through the walls (yes I know it's a tiny
amount)
> or were less likely to deteriorate in sunlight. From IMS's
response, sounds
> like they are all the same in that regard.
I have a white military style tank from the first production run several years ago. It has not discolored at all except for the crud ground into the many scratches and gouges. There is enough vapor coming through the tank to make decals bubble but thats all. Kurt

Matt
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Post by Matt » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:35 pm

Dirk, Your fuel starvation problem could be due to the diaphragm in the fuel petcock. It is an item that deteriorates over time and needs to be replaced eventually. But I think a better soultion is to check out Chris Krock's "petcock conversion kit" at www.bigcee.com. Chris's kit eliminates the diaphragm altogether and converts it from a vacuum operated system to a gravity fed system ... giving you every last drop of fuel; on demand. In other words you should turn the petcock to the off position if the engine will sit idle for any period of time. Check it out! Matt
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Dirk Beer wrote: > > The thing that's finally made me decide to get it is I'm sick of f*n fuel > starvation from the stock venting system. I decalifornicated my fuel system > & replaced a bad grommet at the gas cap and still have problems. Also I'm > now commuting 140miles some days & don't want to stop several days a week to > fuel up. > > Dirk > A18 >

Dirk Beer
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Post by Dirk Beer » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:42 pm

On 9/9/05, Matt wrote:
> > Dirk, > > Your fuel starvation problem could be due to the diaphragm in the fuel > petcock. It is an item that deteriorates over time and needs to be > replaced eventually. But I think a better soultion is to check out > Chris Krock's "petcock conversion kit" at www.bigcee.comhttp://www.bigcee.com>. > Chris's kit > eliminates the diaphragm altogether and converts it from a vacuum > operated system to a gravity fed system ... giving you every last drop > of fuel; on demand. In other words you should turn the petcock to the > off position if the engine will sit idle for any period of time. > Check it out!
Matt, thanks! Do you think this could be the problem even with my relatively new bike (A18 12,000mi)? I worry about converting to a manual petcock because I am likely to forget to turn it off at least some of the time (maybe if I get in the habit, I could be fairly consistent?). Dirk Matt
> > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Dirk Beer wrote: > > > > The thing that's finally made me decide to get it is I'm sick of f*n > fuel > > starvation from the stock venting system. I decalifornicated my fuel > system > > & replaced a bad grommet at the gas cap and still have problems. > Also I'm > > now commuting 140miles some days & don't want to stop several days a > week to > > fuel up. > > > > Dirk > > A18 > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.comhttp://www.dualsportnews.com> > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.htmlhttp://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
-- "You know, I have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dirk Beer
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Post by Dirk Beer » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:45 pm

On 9/9/05, Dirk Beer wrote:
> > On 9/9/05, Matt wrote: > > > > Dirk, > > > > Your fuel starvation problem could be due to the diaphragm in the fuel > > petcock. It is an item that deteriorates over time and needs to be > > replaced eventually. But I think a better soultion is to check out > > Chris Krock's "petcock conversion kit" at www.bigcee.comhttp://www.bigcee.com>. > > Chris's kit > > eliminates the diaphragm altogether and converts it from a vacuum > > operated system to a gravity fed system ... giving you every last drop > > of fuel; on demand. In other words you should turn the petcock to the > > off position if the engine will sit idle for any period of time. > > Check it out! > > Matt, > thanks! Do you think this could be the problem even with my relatively new > bike (A18 12,000mi)? I worry about converting to a manual petcock because I > am likely to forget to turn it off at least some of the time (maybe if I get > in the habit, I could be fairly consistent?). > Dirk >
oh, and one reason I thought it was the cap vents is that it seems that opening the cap seems to solve the problem. Dirk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

CA Stu
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Post by CA Stu » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:00 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Dirk Beer wrote:
> > > oh, and one reason I thought it was the cap vents is that it seems
that
> opening the cap seems to solve the problem. > Dirk >
You have a vent tube blocked or pinched somewhere, I reckon. Thanks CA Stu PS Scott and Eric, you guys have each other's email addresses, right?

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