ap impact: with mexico's army in the war on drugs -nklr

[Jeff Saline]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:18:35 -0600 Norloff Chris writes:

> I haven't drained the tank or the carb because I figure if I can ride > > 50 Km on reserve with no problem, then I've confirmed there's no > water > in the fuel ... or is there something I'm not thinking of? > > Thx > Chris

<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> Chris, Might not be water in the fuel but just poor fuel. If you can run until almost empty and then refill from a different source that might be all you need to eliminate the issue. If I recall correctly you did coolant pump seals just before leaving on this ride. How's that working out for you? Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Click to find high quality stock photos and images. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEuJCXsapJ9bvIBHRUyOqDhKi4bx2twmkgtQCCQUSMuhF0QI7Cvjq/

[Rick McCauley]

I have only read a few of these, so maybe this was already asked. Do you have a fuel filter? Is it clean? Is it an automotive type? I have found that automotive fuel filters don't allow a good flow of fuel from a gravity feed system. Rick A17

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Jeff Saline wrote: From: Jeff Saline Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Mexico - gas problem? To: chris02@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, chris01@... Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 7:25 AM On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:18:35 -0600 Norloff Chris writes: > I haven't drained the tank or the carb because I figure if I can ride > > 50 Km on reserve with no problem, then I've confirmed there's no > water > in the fuel ... or is there something I'm not thinking of? > > Thx > Chris <><><><><><> <><><> <><><><><><> <><><> Chris, Might not be water in the fuel but just poor fuel. If you can run until almost empty and then refill from a different source that might be all you need to eliminate the issue. If I recall correctly you did coolant pump seals just before leaving on this ride. How's that working out for you? Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Click to find high quality stock photos and images. http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTEuJCXs apJ9bvIBHRUyOqDh Ki4bx2twmkgtQCCQ USMuhF0QI7Cvjq/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Norloff Chris]

I've run 2 or 3 tanks of gas through the bike since the problem started. Today the bike was fine during full-throttle mountain climbing at 8,000 ft. I was on the fast roads only in the morning when it was cool. Yes, the water pump coolant seals are all fine. All the problems getting the bike ready seem so long ago ... Many thanks to the folks on this list, who have made all the difference in the world. Chris

On Mar 25, 2009, at 6:25 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:18:35 -0600 Norloff Chris > writes: >> I haven't drained the tank or the carb because I figure if I can ride >> >> 50 Km on reserve with no problem, then I've confirmed there's no >> water >> in the fuel ... or is there something I'm not thinking of? >> >> Thx >> Chris > <><><><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><><><> > > Chris, > > Might not be water in the fuel but just poor fuel. If you can run > until > almost empty and then refill from a different source that might be all > you need to eliminate the issue. > > If I recall correctly you did coolant pump seals just before leaving > on > this ride. How's that working out for you? > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > > . > ____________________________________________________________ > Digital Photography - Click Now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmTZVwZs7zU2UXIRQ82QT3YvC9BIjJUWwyFiznFSEkb397j5szu/ >

[Norloff Chris]

Thanks Rick. No, no fuel filter. I checked the filter screens on the fuel petcock and they're good. Thx Chris

On Mar 25, 2009, at 6:53 AM, Rick McCauley wrote: > I have only read a few of these, so maybe this was already asked. > Do you have a fuel filter? Is it clean? Is it an automotive type? > I have found that automotive fuel filters don't allow a good flow of > fuel from a gravity feed system. > > Rick > A17 > > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Jeff Saline wrote: > > From: Jeff Saline > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Mexico - gas problem? > To: chris02@... > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, chris01@... > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 7:25 AM > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:18:35 -0600 Norloff Chris > writes: >> I haven't drained the tank or the carb because I figure if I can ride >> >> 50 Km on reserve with no problem, then I've confirmed there's no >> water >> in the fuel ... or is there something I'm not thinking of? >> >> Thx >> Chris > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Chris, > > Might not be water in the fuel but just poor fuel. If you can run > until > almost empty and then refill from a different source that might be all > you need to eliminate the issue. > > If I recall correctly you did coolant pump seals just before leaving > on > this ride. How's that working out for you? > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Click to find high quality stock photos and images. > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTEuJCXs > apJ9bvIBHRUyOqDh Ki4bx2twmkgtQCCQ USMuhF0QI7Cvjq/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Norloff Chris wrote:

> > I've run 2 or 3 tanks of gas through the bike since the problem > started. Today the bike was fine during full-throttle mountain > climbing at 8,000 ft. I was on the fast roads only in the > morning when it was cool. > > Yes, the water pump coolant seals are all fine. All the problems > getting the bike ready seem so long ago ... > > Many thanks to the folks on this list, who have made all the > difference in the world. > > Chris >

Hi Chris, Glad things are working for you now! Nothing was mentioned about OAT or ethanol, but my bike will not use ethanol above 95F without surging, which restricted the speed to 60mph using std sprockets of 15/43. Another thing to consider in the future: and that is petcock selector position. I have been thinking about this anomaly since you first posted, and then went out to look at the petcock on my bike as well when I went for a 40F/40mile ride yesterday. (Thermo - bob installed, temps went quickly to 190ish+ and stayed there the entire hour.) When the petcock is turned to on/run it should be actually pointed a little aft. If it is pointed vertically, that will not give the petcock a wide-open posture. WOT position might just need that petcock to be in the full open position. revmaaatin.

[Luc Legrain]

Now that everything is back to normal in Mexico, may I suggest, if you have gas problems in Mexico -------> BEANO --- On Thu, 3/26/09, revmaaatin wrote: From: revmaaatin Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mexico - gas problem? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 1:19 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Norloff Chris wrote: > > I've run 2 or 3 tanks of gas through the bike since the problem > started. Today the bike was fine during full-throttle mountain > climbing at 8,000 ft. I was on the fast roads only in the > morning when it was cool. > > Yes, the water pump coolant seals are all fine. All the problems > getting the bike ready seem so long ago ... > > Many thanks to the folks on this list, who have made all the > difference in the world. > > Chris > Hi Chris, Glad things are working for you now! Nothing was mentioned about OAT or ethanol, but my bike will not use ethanol above 95F without surging, which restricted the speed to 60mph using std sprockets of 15/43. Another thing to consider in the future: and that is petcock selector position. I have been thinking about this anomaly since you first posted, and then went out to look at the petcock on my bike as well when I went for a 40F/40mile ride yesterday. (Thermo - bob installed, temps went quickly to 190ish+ and stayed there the entire hour.) When the petcock is turned to on/run it should be actually pointed a little aft. If it is pointed vertically, that will not give the petcock a wide-open posture. WOT position might just need that petcock to be in the full open position. revmaaatin. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Norloff Chris]

I don't know if Mexico puts ethanol in their gas - I'm thinking not. Heck, gas is cheaper here than in the US. One of the advantages of being an oil-exporting nation, I guess. The bike has been fine. I haven't been on the fast roads (120 Kph) but today rode all afternoon at 100 Kph in blast-furnace heat. When I'd open the helmet visit it was like facing a furnace. I closed the front vents on my riding gear and felt noticeably cooler. The bike did fine. I did switch from 87 to 92 octane after I heard some rattling under load. I also put in some STP gas cleaner and dryer. Interesting about the fuel petcock position - I'll check mine. Thanks Chris On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:19 PM, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Norloff Chris wrote: >> >> I've run 2 or 3 tanks of gas through the bike since the problem >> started. Today the bike was fine during full-throttle mountain >> climbing at 8,000 ft. I was on the fast roads only in the >> morning when it was cool. >> >> Yes, the water pump coolant seals are all fine. All the problems >> getting the bike ready seem so long ago ... >> >> Many thanks to the folks on this list, who have made all the >> difference in the world. >> >> Chris >> > > Hi Chris, > Glad things are working for you now! > > Nothing was mentioned about OAT or ethanol, but my bike will not use > ethanol above 95F without surging, which restricted the speed to > 60mph using std sprockets of 15/43. > > Another thing to consider in the future: and that is petcock > selector position. > > I have been thinking about this anomaly since you first posted, and > then went out to look at the petcock on my bike as well when I went > for a 40F/40mile ride yesterday. (Thermo - bob installed, temps > went quickly to 190ish+ and stayed there the entire hour.) > > When the petcock is turned to on/run it should be actually pointed a > little aft. If it is pointed vertically, that will not give the > petcock a wide-open posture. WOT position might just need that > petcock to be in the full open position. > > revmaaatin. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[Jud Jones]

NKLR. Thanks. Also, with a long article like that, a link would be preferable to a full copy, as a courtesy to the guys who read in digest form.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, martin glazer wrote: > > > AP IMPACT: With Mexico's army in the war on drugs > By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ, Associated Press Writer Olga R. Rodriguez, Associated Press Writer 1 hr 2 mins ago > REYNOSA, Mexico " Acting on a tip, 30 masked soldiers in combat gear bust down the door of a boarded-up house to find 55 terrified migrants, hostages of the Gulf drug cartel. >