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[hardyreels]

Have Clymer but can not get the old races out of the frames steering tube. Need to find out what type of punch (Clymer calls it a drift) to use and where to get it. Help, please

[greg saunders]

Snap-on sells them. Any truck ought to have some. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comFrom: hardyreels@...: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:36:48 +0000Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Need Info on replacing steering bearings? Have Clymer but can not get the old races out of the frames steering tube. Need to find out what type of punch (Clymer calls it a drift) to use and where to get it.Help, please _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live : E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_022009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:36:48 -0000 "hardyreels" writes:

> Have Clymer but can not get the old races out of the frames steering > > tube. Need to find out what type of punch (Clymer calls it a drift) > to > use and where to get it. > > Help, please

<><><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><> hardyreels, I haven't removed a top race yet but have done a few bottom races. They are the same bearing as an airhead BMW. You can get a special puller that will fit the bottom race only on the KLR from Cycleworks. http://www.cycleworks.net/tools_chassis_wheels.htm "HEAD BEARING PULLER 1970-1995 AIRHEADS AND WE THINK all K BIKES To remove the difficult to get at outer races of all airhead head (steering) bearings." Today is priced at $39. If you don't want to spend that kind of money you can run a weld bead around the inside of the race and as the weld cools it will shrink and the race will almost fall out. MIG works well and is quick but stick should work well too. Another way to do it is to weld a washer to the inside of the race and that will give a punch something to hit. If you don't want to mess with the special puller or welding I think a guy could make a punch with a bit of patience. Take a pipe that will just fit through the hole in the race and is a bit longer than the steering head. Cut it length wise into 90 degree sections leaving a bit at the end to hold them all together. Then spread the four cut ends so they flare out. Pull the pipe/punch up through the race so the flares compress and then snap out as they get above the race. Now you'll have a pipe at the top and four places on the race where the pipe contacts the race. Smart blows should move the race out for you. I understand when some folks get the race out they grind a few relief areas in the steering head so the next time they have to do the job they have a place to put a punch. It shouldn't take much of a relief cut to work well. I suppose a guy could use a dremel tool with a cut off wheel to put some relief areas into the steering head while the bearing is in place. Then just use a long punch to remove the race. For installation I like to freeze the outer race and heat the steering head. Then I use the old race which I've cut so it will compress (in diameter) a tad as a driver. I get the steering head to spit hot which is when you spit on it the spit sizzles. If you have an infrared temperature sensor that's about 212 degrees F. I use a heat gun for that heating operation. Good luck with the project. I'll be doing my steering head bearings sometime in the next few months using an All Balls kit. Best, Jeff ____________________________________________________________ Need cash? Click to get a cash advance. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1hEPa3quRnDZhKSKsxWN5jzcMnYVzmF4dmASkvk3QSHsZak/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[aphampton628]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hardyreels" wrote:

> > Have Clymer but can not get the old races out of the frames steering > tube. Need to find out what type of punch (Clymer calls it a drift) to > use and where to get it. > > Help, please >

To answer only your specific question. A steel "punch-drift" will do. The tip diameter should be appropriate (?) for the fat end of the race. A hardware store, Sears, etc. should have one. Look on the chisel section (?). Wear goggles. Google "punch drift" for more info. Alan

[Michael Martin]

Here's what I used on my ST1100. Maybe it'll work on the KLR. http://home.insightbb.com/~mmartin36/StemTool.htm Mike Martin, Louisville, KY ________________________________ From: hardyreels To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:36:48 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Need Info on replacing steering bearings? Have Clymer but can not get the old races out of the frames steering tube. Need to find out what type of punch (Clymer calls it a drift) to use and where to get it. Help, please [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[David Bell]

I like to use a brass tool if possible. I have made a bunch of different size drifts out of various sizes of brass rods. Or, sometimes a socket of the appropriate size. I also would try to heat up the outside area to make it expand, and cool (if possible) the inside area. For example, could you use limited heat from a heat gun to heat up the outside and then drop ice down inside to cool the race? Using the drift, start tapping around the race to drive it out, and work your way around slowly using increasing pressure. You don't want to get it in a bind. I know if you are doing a small enough part, you can put the outer part in the oven, the inner part in the freezer for a while, and it will drop right in. ________________________________ From: aphampton628 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:53:37 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Need Info on replacing steering bearings?

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "hardyreels" wrote: > > Have Clymer but can not get the old races out of the frames steering > tube. Need to find out what type of punch (Clymer calls it a drift) to > use and where to get it. > > Help, please > To answer only your specific question. A steel "punch-drift" will do. The tip diameter should be appropriate (?) for the fat end of the race. A hardware store, Sears, etc. should have one. Look on the chisel section (?). Wear goggles. Google "punch drift" for more info. Alan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[amotoo44]

Not sure if this is true but worth looking into if you have kids that like to ride: AMA calls for all motorcyclists to help stop the ban of youth OHVs PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- The sport of off-highway recreation is seriously threatened by recent legislation that imposes strict lead content guidelines on children's everyday toys. The Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 (CPSIA) has effectively banned the sale of youth off-highway vehicles (OHVs). The American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) is calling for action now to help reverse the potentially devestating effect this could have on the sport of OHV recreation. "The unavailability of youth OHVs will devastate family OHV recreation and cripple amateur competition, creating a domino effect across all aspects of motorized recreation," said AMA Vice President for Government Relations Ed Moreland. "All motorcyclists, whether they recreate off-road or not, need to come to the defense of our youngest riders and help ensure the future availability of youth OHVs." A quick and effective way to help is to write or call your representative and the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) and let them know petitions exist to exclude certain vehicles from the final rule governing the law. You can send your representative a letter by using the Take Action button in the Issues and Legislation section of www.AmericanMotorcyclist.com. To contact the CPSC directly, use the contact form here. According to section 101(a) of the enacted legislation, all youth products containing lead must have less than 600 parts per million (ppm) by weight. The CPSC has interpreted the law to apply to various components of youth OHVs including the engine, brakes, suspension, battery and other mechanical parts. Even though the lead levels in these parts are small, they are still above the minimum threshold. In order to assure continued availability and access to youth OHVs, the Motorcycle Industry Council (MIC) and Specialty Vehicle Industry Association (SVIA) submitted petitions to the CPSC asking that certain vehicles be excluded from the final rule governing the law. "It is critical that Congress and the CPSC know that these petitions exist and that by acting on them they will maintain a vital form of recreation for American families, preserve youth racing and protect the thousands of jobs associated with this industry," Moreland added. "We are asking all motorcyclists to write or call their representatives and the CPSC today and ask them to approve the petition to exclude youth OHVs from the CPSIA lead content requirements."