dead battery

[Michael Martin]

Rev, I went to the DeWalt website for the DW9091 battery. It didn't give very much info about the battery: http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/attac ... uctID=8136 The Amazon site described the DW9091 as 2.4 Amp Hour capacity, which can also be stated as 2400 mAh. This is lower than the 3000 mAh battery you found, but I don't believe that battery was NiCad, so I don't know whether it will be compatible with your charger or not. It would be safer to stick with the DeWalt brand. For disposal of NiCads, land fill is a no-no. Drop off your dead battery at Lowes or Radio Shack, and they say they'll dispose of it properly. HTH, Mike Martin, Louisville, KY ________________________________ From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:50:33 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR-Batteries for Hand Held tools --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Harry Seifert" wrote: OK- I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new dewalt battery pack (9091) I find a couple of links: http://www.ok- battery.com/ search.php? keywords=DW9094& gclid=CNyhieHdhJ gCFQ6jagodwTRJtg or http://www.amazon. com/s/?ie= UTF8&keywords= dw9091&tag= googhydr- 20&index=tools& hvadid=110189380 1&ref=pd_ sl_eztx22sx6_ b but like everything else in the world, it involves electrickery This first link shows several replacement packs, with a twist: you are given a choice of 1500 1700 2000 2200 3000mAh Of course, my battery pack only says, 14.4v XR Pack, no milli amps. so going to the Amazon site and type in 9091 XR Pack-- The Amazon link shows: DeWalt DC9091 XRP 14.4-Volt 2.4 Amp Hour NiCad Pod Style Battery. Ac-c-k! My head is about to explode. I am thinking now that it should be the XRP as a replacement as it is 2.4a, and even I know that 2.4A is more than 3000 mAh. I believe the proper replacement is this XRP. Any other guesses? revmaaatin. who is wondering why we have to be an 'expert' in so many obscure subjects, just to survive.... Is that progress? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Greg May]

Hi Rev, a couple things I "seem" to remember, when I replaced the motor on the 7.2 volt makita drill I have the motor was the same part as the motor listed for the 12 volt drill, this could be why the 7.2 lasted so well and why the 12 volt drill of around that area that I used at work seemed to die quicker and run much hotter when continiously used. My memory is the disclaimer here. My electrical back ground says this not a great idea but this was when cordless drills first came out. The second bit of info which you could probably confirm at the DeWalt site would be if you needed a replacement battery and you drill was in good enough shape to make it worth the expense I seem to remember that the newer lithium ion batteries if the same voltage will slip right in. I also think that I remember reading that at least the newer DeWalt chargers are capable of charging li ion and ni cad batteries, since DeWalt calls their chargers smart chargers this is possible so you might be able to by the Li Ion battery and wind up with a better performing drill then it ws when it was new. As far as disposal goes the Ni Cad batteries should be properly disposed of at a battery disposal centre, they contain nasty to the enviorment materials.....have a great weekend....Greg

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, revmaaatin wrote: From: revmaaatin Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR-Batteries for Hand Held tools To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Received: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 3:26 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Harry Seifert" wrote: > > Howdy, you snowbound Midwesterner. ........ > > In the back classifieds in Popular Mechanics there have been ads for a > company that will rebuild your rechargeable batteries. I've seen a broken > apart DeWalt battery pack and it contained a bunch of rechargeable C cell > sized batteries soldered together in series to get the 12 volts. > > Our snow is pretty much gone, except for the 2 foot snow bank out behind my > shop and we are enjoying a nice, frigid (28F) Santa Ana wind > storm....... ......... 35-40 knot easterlies with gusts to 75 and very dry! > > If I can find the name of a company that can rebuild battery packs I'll > post it. > > Buddy Buddy , Greg, Lou, Terry, Eric, Alan, and others.... Thanks for all the battery input--Sounds like after 13 years of occasional use, the DeWalt will be getting new batteries. cough, and the dustbuster is 'busted'. The Dewalt is 14.4v--if other batteries fit, can they be used as well without harm? The drill specifies/placarded with 14.4vdc, 0-450/01400 RPM. Any suggestions on the EPA etal requirements for battery disposal? or is there any, other than normal landfill disposal? revmaaatin. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Greg May]

Hi Rev, see note 12 at the DeWalt site FAQ link http://www.dewalt.com/us/articles/artic ... ess&ID=702

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, revmaaatin wrote: From: revmaaatin Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR-Batteries for Hand Held tools To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Received: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 3:50 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Harry Seifert" wrote: OK- I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new dewalt battery pack (9091) I find a couple of links: http://www.ok- battery.com/ search.php? keywords=DW9094& gclid=CNyhieHdhJ gCFQ6jagodwTRJtg or http://www.amazon. com/s/?ie= UTF8&keywords= dw9091&tag= googhydr- 20&index=tools& hvadid=110189380 1&ref=pd_ sl_eztx22sx6_ b but like everything else in the world, it involves electrickery This first link shows several replacement packs, with a twist: you are given a choice of 1500 1700 2000 2200 3000mAh Of course, my battery pack only says, 14.4v XR Pack, no milli amps. so going to the Amazon site and type in 9091 XR Pack-- The Amazon link shows: DeWalt DC9091 XRP 14.4-Volt 2.4 Amp Hour NiCad Pod Style Battery. Ac-c-k! My head is about to explode. I am thinking now that it should be the XRP as a replacement as it is 2.4a, and even I know that 2.4A is more than 3000 mAh. I believe the proper replacement is this XRP. Any other guesses? revmaaatin. who is wondering why we have to be an 'expert' in so many obscure subjects, just to survive.... Is that progress? __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ron Haraseth]

There are businesses that you can track down on the Web that "rebuild" these batteries (open and replace cells). Often for half the cost of a new battery, often using higher capacity cells. Also, 2.4 Amp/hours is 2400 milliamp/hours, so a 3.0 Amp battery is 3,000 milliamps You do the math of which has more capacity. Total energy is volts times amp to give an idea of the total "work" capable of performing. Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[The Reverend]

The higher the mAh number, the more work you can do before having to recharge. Basically, these days there's more punch packed in to the same sub-C sized battery than when they made yours, so you have options of 1500 (crappy) all the way up to 3000 (good). A very simple and quasi-correct way to explaining it is that you can do twice the work on one charge with the 3000mAh battery than you could with the 1500.

----- Original Message ----- From: "revmaaatin" > I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new dewalt battery pack (9091) > This first link shows several replacement packs, with a twist: > you are given a choice of > 1500 > 1700 > 2000 > 2200 > 3000mAh

[George Basinet]

I thought you keep the battery off the floor to protect the concrete, not the battery. George, who could use a charge in Rancho Bernardo, CA The Reverend wrote:

> > > Not storing a battery on a concrete floor is myth. Batteries have been made > of polypropylene for a very long time at this point. > >