selling my 96 klr 650

[nakedwaterskier]

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=118391&adid=7187139

[Ed Dobson]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "nakedwaterskier" wrote:

> > http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=118391&adid=7187139

The .au site has it up. http://www.kawasaki.com.au/# ED

[Ed Dobson]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Dobson" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "nakedwaterskier" > wrote: > > > > http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=118391&adid=7187139 > > > > > The .au site has it up. > > http://www.kawasaki.com.au/# > > ED

Also up on the US site. http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/detail.aspx?id=358 No parts lists yet though. ED

[Mike Grace]

I note with smug glee the MSRP is now $5599 US. I turned over 6800 miles on my '08 today, purchased in March this year: runs like a top, burns not a drop of oil and just gained a bit in value! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ed Dobson]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Grace" wrote:

> > I note with smug glee the MSRP is now $5599 US. > > > > I turned over 6800 miles on my '08 today, purchased in March this

year: runs

> like a top, burns not a drop of oil and just gained a bit in value!

15 YEARS OF MSRP's 2009...........$5599 +250 2008...........$5349 +150 2007, 2006.....$5199 +50 2005...........$5149 +150 2004-2001......$4999 +100 2000...........$4899 +100 1999-1997......$4799 +$50 1996...........$4749 +$300 1995...........$4449 FWIW ED

[Reverend]

But how much is it worth after you ride it off the lot? I'd be hard-pressed buying anything new, sadly. Sadder still is that so many engines are improperly broken in, so buying used is a bit of a gamble.

> -----Original Message----- > Behalf Of Ed Dobson > > I note with smug glee the MSRP is now $5599 US.

[boulder_adv_rider]

Personally, Kaw keeps adding things I'm not interested in. I'd rather see them fix existing problems and not introduce anymore. The fact its marketing info for the new 2009 claims new piston and rings help prevent oil consumption basically says the 2008 is jingas. The new plastics and dual head lights? Remind me why I need two bulbs and an expensive cluster? I don't need this. Does it even use normal bulbs available from NAPA? Seems like crashing these newer models just got a lot more expensive.

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "boulder_adv_rider" wrote:

> plastics and dual head lights? Remind me why I need two bulbs and an > expensive cluster?

Uhm, because the old setup sucks? The main problem with the old setup is that square is the worst possible shape for a headlamp. After dark, you might as well have a friggin' kerosene lamp ahead of you. Going over Townes Pass last year after sundown, the only way I kept from running off the road was to hang on the rear bumper of a Toyota that was going over the pass (which has a lot of switchbacks on the road). Otherwise I would have been buzzard chow. And that was with a relay kit and the best H4 bulb I could find.

> I don't need this. Does it even use normal bulbs

Yes. Normal automotive light bulbs available from NAPA. And it works *great*. I have the same basic setup on my Suzuki V-Strom, and compared to my '02 KLR, it's like night and day (literally). I can *SEE* with the V-Strom setup. I have the same exact bulb in each of its two headlights that I have in the KLR's one headlight, i.e., *twice as much light on the road*, and the pattern puts the light *everywhere*, not just in a rectangle directly in front of me.

> Seems like crashing these newer models just got a > lot more expensive.

Crashing a KLR without the proper guards has always been expensive. See: Radiator, left side, price of. What has changed is that the proper guards for the '08+ KLR have gotten more complex and more expensive, now you need a full HT-Dakar setup to keep from crunching your plastics. (And note that the gas tank is the exact same gas tank as on the pre-08, it just has different fairings attached to it due to the bigger radiator on the left and the fact that the voltage regulator has been relocated to under the right fairing to get it some more air so it won't burn out). Kawasaki is selling these new KLR's like hotcakes, so obviously they've done *something* right. I'm not buying one, but I already have an old-style KLR for dirty duty and I have a better street bike (my V-Strom) so I don't need to buy the new one for its better street manners. But if I could only have one bike? The new KLR would probably be at the top of the list, because it's still the most versatile bike on the planet.

[Mike Hilton]

Look like the 08 with new decals.. Mike H.

----- Original Message ----- From: nakedwaterskier To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] 09s are out http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=118391&adid=7187139 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[boulder_adv_rider]

The stock setup is fine for most riders. If dual lights were so great, they'd be in the Baja. They're not. They run a single MASSIVE round and auxillaries (spot and flood). Most pro riders even add a helmet light. The new KLR light might look nice, but it's worthless to me. I'm yet to see any evidence it's brighter (more lumens) or a more efficient beam pattern. The rounder and more conical a housing becomes, the more concentrated the beam that's it. A square bulb arguably provides wider dispersion for twists and turns and is a fine balance for distance especially if you opt for higher wattage. When I started running deserts and mountains at night, I found the need for more light. So I upgraded my headlight wiring and socket and went to 90w/90w. For speeds in excess of 70mph in the desert, I add HID lights mounted and supplied by the KLR. These draw next much less power than H-bulbs and produce a hell of a lot more lumens (but cost a lot more). Finally, I mount a self-contained HID to my helmet which in itself is incredible. I get 3 hours out of that before needing a charge/new battery. On full discharge, it's like stadium lighting.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "E.L. Green" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "boulder_adv_rider" > wrote: > > plastics and dual head lights? Remind me why I need two bulbs and an > > expensive cluster? > > Uhm, because the old setup sucks? The main problem with the old setup > is that square is the worst possible shape for a headlamp. After dark, > you might as well have a friggin' kerosene lamp ahead of you. Going > over Townes Pass last year after sundown, the only way I kept from > running off the road was to hang on the rear bumper of a Toyota that > was going over the pass (which has a lot of switchbacks on the road). > Otherwise I would have been buzzard chow. And that was with a relay > kit and the best H4 bulb I could find. > > > I don't need this. Does it even use normal bulbs > > Yes. Normal automotive light bulbs available from NAPA. And it works > *great*. I have the same basic setup on my Suzuki V-Strom, and > compared to my '02 KLR, it's like night and day (literally). I can > *SEE* with the V-Strom setup. I have the same exact bulb in each of > its two headlights that I have in the KLR's one headlight, i.e., > *twice as much light on the road*, and the pattern puts the light > *everywhere*, not just in a rectangle directly in front of me. > > > Seems like crashing these newer models just got a > > lot more expensive. > > Crashing a KLR without the proper guards has always been expensive. > See: Radiator, left side, price of. What has changed is that the > proper guards for the '08+ KLR have gotten more complex and more > expensive, now you need a full HT-Dakar setup to keep from crunching > your plastics. (And note that the gas tank is the exact same gas tank > as on the pre-08, it just has different fairings attached to it due to > the bigger radiator on the left and the fact that the voltage > regulator has been relocated to under the right fairing to get it some > more air so it won't burn out). > > Kawasaki is selling these new KLR's like hotcakes, so obviously > they've done *something* right. I'm not buying one, but I already have > an old-style KLR for dirty duty and I have a better street bike (my > V-Strom) so I don't need to buy the new one for its better street > manners. But if I could only have one bike? The new KLR would probably > be at the top of the list, because it's still the most versatile bike > on the planet. >