can you guys double check my valve shim #'s and give me some adv

[Gary LaRue]

Hi Scott; The throttle lock mentioned in the previous post is on an '08 that I call Robobike. He's blue, of course, the compassionate color. *Blinking my eyes* All three of the TLs I've actually -used- while touring on the road have been the Vista Universal. I tried another brand on my 750-K but it allowed the throttle to back down so I switched it out. No, I don't recall what brand it was, and it was about 10 years ago so it probably wouldn't matter. Why the Vista? Because that is the one I can walk in and buy. If anyone has a TL, it will be the Vista. Because I didn't want to wait for shipping I paid full list of $38 USD at a big stealer... I mean dealer... in Roswell. I'd bet Fred could beat that even with shipping, but I was in a hurry. If you get one be SURE that it is for a 7/8 inch bar, not 1 inch. (Don't ask me how I found out.) I moved the starter/kill switch assembly inboard a bit to make room for the handlebar clamp, and I used the arm extention to connect between that and the clamp on the throttle grip, all of which is included in the package. The starter switch assembly has a pin which holds it in place, so I had to drill a 5/32" hole in the bar to accommodate it. Actually, I drilled it a little too far inboard so there is a gap between the handlebar clamp and the switch assembly. *Shrug* The handlebar clamp does partly obscure the level glass on the front brake master cylinder, but it only takes a moment to bend my head down and look a little closer. Installation time for a first-timer? I dunno, an hour or two? Right after installing it, I used it on a ride of (about) 350 miles, which is why I was in a hurry to get it. Performance is exactly as I have experienced in the past, which is excellent. The clamping power on the throttle grip is adjustable and I have it set such that it holds speed, but I can tweak the throttle up or down a bit to meet changing conditions without kicking it off. The lever is very near the thumb where a quick roll of the wrist or raising of the hand will instantly trip it off if something looks like it might get ugly. After so many years and miles it is as automatic for me as covering the brake and clutch. Me? I wouldn't ride more than an hour or so without a TL, and I intend to cover some serious ground this year. On the other hand, a few years ago JC Whitney was selling a real cruise control for universal applications which a lot of the 750 guys were putting on,. Most of the advised installing a vacuum reservoir for the times when extended periods of high speed riding would not allow enough vacuum to keep it working right. Frankly, I doubt such a thing would work on our bikes, but I could be wrong. Well, Scott... good, bad, right or wrong, for whatever it's worth, "that's mah story an' ahm stickin' to it." Ride on; Lash ----- Original Message ---- From: Scott St. Hillier To: DSN_KLR650 Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:57:03 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Where did "farkle" come from? Has anyone put a throttle lock or cruise control of any type on a 2008 with success and are happy with it? Thanks On Sat, 31 May 2008 15:40:12 -0700 (PDT), "Gary LaRue" said:

> Yeah, I gotta start putting my farkles on, as well. I've already put the > throttle lock on, just waiting for the personal drive to put on the crash > bars, center stand and belly pan that I got from Twisted Throttle last > winter. > > > By the way, for us noobs, where did the term "farkle" come from? Damned > fine word, and the meaning is obvious, but what is the origin of it? > > Thanx; > > Lash > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: revmaaatin > > > Welcome to the world of the 'farkled KLR'. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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[penguincathedral]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Gary LaRue wrote:

> All three of the TLs I've actually -used- while touring on the

road have been the Vista Universal. few years ago JC Whitney was selling a real cruise control for universal applications which a lot of the 750 guys were putting on,. Most of the advised installing a vacuum reservoir for the times when extended periods of high speed riding would not allow enough vacuum to keep it working right. Frankly, I doubt such a thing would work on our bikes, but I could be wrong. I installed an Audiovox CCS-100 electronic cruise control on my KLR. When it works, it works well. The problem is, every time I take the bike offroad I manage to shake something loose. I need to get under there and track down the latest problem. My take: If you're ever going to leave pavement, leave the cruise control at home. The throttle lock will work well enough to keep your wrist from getting sore and is a *whole* lot less complicated. (And yes, you need a vacuum reservoir with check valve to make the cruise control work right on a thumper. Think about it. You're making vacuum only 1/4th of the time on a thumper, on the intake stroke. What's going to power the cruise control the other 3/4th of the time, if you don't have a reservoir?!).

[smthng else]

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:02 AM, penguincathedral wrote:

> I installed an Audiovox CCS-100 electronic cruise control on my KLR. > When it works, it works well.

This is mostly for Penguin, but others might want to chip in as well... I agree that the Vista is the most popular solution, but I just don't like them. It's a personal thing, I'm not trying to sway anyone else's opinion. I use a Throttlemeister on the FJR, but they ain't cheap. They're actually about the same cost as the Audiovox cruise. With that in mind... I know the Throttlemeister is about a 20 minute install, with maybe a half hour of testing to "tweak" it. With my abilities, the audiovox is at least a 6 hour install. So... for 98% street use, does anyone have any opinions on a throttle lock (Throttlemeister) vs. a true cruise (Audiovox), assuming I'm willing to put in the time and labor it takes to set it up? --Jonathan "smthng" Kalmes Springfield, VA 2005 Yamaha FJR1300ABS - "Blue Bayou" 2006 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon - "Teflon" 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 - It's here, but it hasn't earned a name yet. http://smthng.info "Look, the truth is, I've been trying to save the world, one person at a time, but, I'm meant for smthng bigger. Smthng important. I know it now."

[David C.]

At 07:52 AM 6/1/2008, DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>I know the Throttlemeister is about a 20 minute install, with maybe a >half hour of testing to "tweak" it. With my abilities, the audiovox >is at least a 6 hour install. So... for 98% street use, does >anyone have any opinions on a throttle lock (Throttlemeister) vs. a >true cruise (Audiovox), assuming I'm willing to put in the time and >labor it takes to set it up?

I had a Throttlemeister on my 2000 Concours. Someone gave it to me, otherwise I would have never put up the bucks for it. Looked really cool, worked OK once I got the "self engaging" issues sorted out. http://fjr1300.info/howto/throttlemeister.html The thing is, I hardly ever used it for more then five or ten minutes at a time. I used a Throttle Rocker all the time, and that seemed to be all I needed for hours on end of riding. One limitation of a Throttlemeister is you probably won't be able to run brush guards on your handlebars if you install a TM. OTOH, if you are planning on doing mostly road and highway riding, you probably aren't worried about that. Dave C

[navyboy652002]

I checked around a little for shims and they seem to run $3-4 more each than what Fred charges, + Fred is fast so of course I went with him and got a couple other things while I was at it! Seth

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > > My local shop would trade me $12 each for a shim....... > > CAlled SuperFred...... And his put his cape on and dashed into > service mode and got me I think it was 3 shims shipped for what just > a single shim would have set me back at the local shop. > > Even when I lived up in the wilderness they arrived quickly. > > Kit just seems silly to me for the short period of time it took to > get just what I needed, think I tore down early week, had parts and > the machine back on the road by end of week. > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse > wrote: > > > > My Kawa dealer trades the shims with you. Maybe your's would too! > > Ron Moorhouse > > Modesto, CA > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: navyboy652002 > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:03:58 AM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Can you guys double check my valve shim > #'s and give me some advice too! > > > > > > Hey Jeff thanks for the quick reply! I ordered the shims right > after > > I read your reply! So I guess they'll go in next weekend and I'll > be > > back up and running! > > Thanks again, Seth > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 31 May 2008 00:37:42 -0000 "navyboy652002" > > > writes: > > > > Ok my 2000 KLR650 is just shy of 10,000 miles so I dove right > in > > to > > > > check my valve clearance! Not sure if the bike has had it done > > > > before > > > > as I bought it used but this is my first time ever doing a job > > like > > > > > > > > this! > > > > Here is what I came up with: > > > > Right Intake Clearance: .004"/.102mm current shim 275 > > > > Left Intake Clearance: .006"/.152mm current shim 265 > > > > Right Exhaust Clearance: .008"/.203mm current shim 265 > > > > Left Exhaust Clearance: .009"/.229mm current shim 260 > > > > > > SNIP > > > > > > > I ran the shim calc with that in mind and it says to leave the > > L.E. > > > alone, change the R.E. to a 260 shim, change the L.I. to a 260 > shim > > and > > > for the R.I. take the old R.E. 265 and use that as the new R.I.! > > > > > > > I'm fine with ordering new shims if that's going to keep me in > > spec. > > > > > > > > longer! > > > > Thanks, Seth > > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > <><><><><><> <><><> > > > > > > Seth, > > > > > > You've got it nailed correctly. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Jeff Saline > > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Click to find local singles for dating, romance and fun. > > > > > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/Ioyw6i3nguDDq > Hs5iOc7fOQuLr > > zRpsihGcH7N2FzFUG2P 1VSMnKHSM/ > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >

[Steve Strader]

The throttle lock I use cost $20 at Cycle Gear. Its made of plastic and it has a tab on it that is supposed to fit between the push-pull cables of a street bike. I just drilled a hole throuh it and into the throttle housing (not too deep) and used a self tapping screw to hold it. Plan on replacing the grips though. Cycle Gear has Pro Grip gels for $10. Steve Strader, Ukiah, CA '06 Greenie (of course) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]