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Vladimir Vega III
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california marriage decision--what now?

Post by Vladimir Vega III » Mon May 19, 2008 3:22 pm

Thought you all might be interested to know... Vlad ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: M De Mesa Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:58:23 PM Subject: California Marriage Decision--What now? ____________________________
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:07:20 -0400 > From: kengland@... > To: mdemesa@... > Subject: California Marriage Decision--What now? > > []http://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs078/1100422530046/img/83.jpg?a=1102102199078] > > > The California Supreme Court Marriage Decision--What now? > > The last 24 hours have definitely been challenging for California families. Four members of our state's highest court arrogantly decided to impose their social agenda on citizens-in spite of the fact we already decided the definition of marriage through Proposition 22. Understandably, we have received many calls and emails from families expressing their disappointment and frustration about our judiciary and legislature. > > While this is a temporary obstacle for our movement, this is when we must reaffirm our resolve and redouble our efforts. Now is not the time to withdraw and cede our culture to tenacious anti-family activists. Standing up for our values is a ministry that is no different than feeding the poor or helping the homeless. This is our ministry: to protect a culture that is a safe and healthy place to raise children and live our faith. > > America is unique in the world for establishing a society that balances fundamental rights with individual freedom. But some factions in society want their man-made rights to overrule our freedoms. This is the eternal struggle in America. And while this struggle to preserve our culture will never end, we can restore our freedom. > > The court's decision cannot be appealed to the United States Supreme Court so we must overturn our state's judicial activism at the ballot box. This November, we have the chance to reclaim our freedom and our power. In light of the California Supreme Court's outrageous decision, it is essential that we place the traditional definition of marriage in our constitution. > > It is vital that you join the Protect Marriage coalition and work to pass the marriage amendment initiative on the November ballot. > > Here is how you can help: > > 1. Educate. Email all of your friends, tell church members, and make everyone you know aware of this outrageous court decision. Many people might not understand the ramifications of this decision. In 30 days, homosexuals will be legally married in this state. But citizens should not feel helpless-we have a ballot initiative to overturn the court's decision. > > 2. Stay informed. Encourage everyone you know to join our email list so we can keep them up to date on the latest news regarding the family movement and the Protect Marriage campaign. > > 3. Donate. Volunteering for the campaign is important, but campaigns are also extremely expensive with all the advertising, printing and other expenses it takes to spread our message. But isn't a $100 donation worth protecting marriage for our children, grandchildren and beyond? Isn't a $50 donation worth overturning SB 777 to protect the innocence of our children in schools? Although it may be expensive, the outcome is priceless and necessary. > > The homosexual campaign against Protect Marriage is already raising money to defeat our initiative. We estimate we will be outspent 10-1. > > Our campaign will be a coalition of moms, dads, grandparents and others who want to preserve our values. > > Please join this important coalition today. > > Please Mail Donations to: > > Capitol Resource Family Impact > > 660 J Street, Suite 250 > > Sacramento, CA 95814 > > American journalist Marilyn vos Savant once stated that "Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent." The court's decision may be a temporary defeat, but it will not be permanent because we will never give up! > > > More on the Marriage Ruling > > Judicial Activism Force Homosexual Marriage on Californians by Karen England > > The Danger in Appeasing Gay Rights Activists > > by Ernest Istook > > > > > California Supreme Court Opinion > > Ellen DeGeneres plans to marry > > > Participate in CRI's Poll Question: > > Do You Support the California Supreme Court's Ruling on Marriage? > > > > > > > > Forward email > [http://img.constantcontact.com/letters/images/safe_unsubscribe_logo.gif%5d > This email was sent to mdemesa@..., by kengland@... > Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe | Privacy Policy. > > Email Marketing by > [http://img.constantcontact.com/letters/images/cc-logo-color-sm.gif%5d > Capitol Resource Institute | 660 J Street | Suite 250 | Sacramento | CA | 95814
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california marriage decision--what now?

Post by Arden Kysely » Mon May 19, 2008 3:51 pm

I think you have the wrong list...this one's about motorcycles. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir Vega III wrote:
> > Thought you all might be interested to know... > Vlad > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: M De Mesa > > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:58:23 PM > Subject: California Marriage Decision--What now? > ____________________________ > > Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:07:20 -0400 > > From: kengland@... > > To: mdemesa@... > > Subject: California Marriage Decision--What now? > > > >
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> > > > > > The California Supreme Court Marriage Decision--What now? > > > > The last 24 hours have definitely been challenging for California
families. Four members of our state's highest court arrogantly decided to impose their social agenda on citizens-in spite of the fact we already decided the definition of marriage through Proposition 22. Understandably, we have received many calls and emails from families expressing their disappointment and frustration about our judiciary and legislature.
> > > > While this is a temporary obstacle for our movement, this is when
we must reaffirm our resolve and redouble our efforts. Now is not the time to withdraw and cede our culture to tenacious anti-family activists. Standing up for our values is a ministry that is no different than feeding the poor or helping the homeless. This is our ministry: to protect a culture that is a safe and healthy place to raise children and live our faith.
> > > > America is unique in the world for establishing a society that
balances fundamental rights with individual freedom. But some factions in society want their man-made rights to overrule our freedoms. This is the eternal struggle in America. And while this struggle to preserve our culture will never end, we can restore our freedom.
> > > > The court's decision cannot be appealed to the United States
Supreme Court so we must overturn our state's judicial activism at the ballot box. This November, we have the chance to reclaim our freedom and our power. In light of the California Supreme Court's outrageous decision, it is essential that we place the traditional definition of marriage in our constitution.
> > > > It is vital that you join the Protect Marriage coalition and work
to pass the marriage amendment initiative on the November ballot.
> > > > Here is how you can help: > > > > 1. Educate. Email all of your friends, tell church members, and
make everyone you know aware of this outrageous court decision. Many people might not understand the ramifications of this decision. In 30 days, homosexuals will be legally married in this state. But citizens should not feel helpless-we have a ballot initiative to overturn the court's decision.
> > > > 2. Stay informed. Encourage everyone you know to join our email
list so we can keep them up to date on the latest news regarding the family movement and the Protect Marriage campaign.
> > > > 3. Donate. Volunteering for the campaign is important, but
campaigns are also extremely expensive with all the advertising, printing and other expenses it takes to spread our message. But isn't a $100 donation worth protecting marriage for our children, grandchildren and beyond? Isn't a $50 donation worth overturning SB 777 to protect the innocence of our children in schools? Although it may be expensive, the outcome is priceless and necessary.
> > > > The homosexual campaign against Protect Marriage is already
raising money to defeat our initiative. We estimate we will be outspent 10-1.
> > > > Our campaign will be a coalition of moms, dads, grandparents and
others who want to preserve our values.
> > > > Please join this important coalition today. > > > > Please Mail Donations to: > > > > Capitol Resource Family Impact > > > > 660 J Street, Suite 250 > > > > Sacramento, CA 95814 > > > > American journalist Marilyn vos Savant once stated that "Being
defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent." The court's decision may be a temporary defeat, but it will not be permanent because we will never give up!
> > > > > > More on the Marriage Ruling > > > > Judicial Activism Force Homosexual Marriage on
Californians by Karen England
> > > > The Danger in Appeasing Gay Rights Activists > > > > by Ernest Istook > > > > > > > > > > California Supreme Court Opinion > > > > Ellen DeGeneres plans to marry > > > > > > Participate in CRI's Poll Question: > > > > Do You Support the California Supreme Court's Ruling on Marriage? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forward email > >
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notanymoore
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california marriage decision--what now?

Post by notanymoore » Mon May 19, 2008 4:24 pm

Not necessarily. Nothing strengthens the old family values like a strong heterosexual relationship with your KLR 650. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:
> > I think you have the wrong list...this one's about motorcycles. > > __Arden > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir Vega III > wrote: > > > > Thought you all might be interested to know... > > Vlad > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: M De Mesa > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:58:23 PM > > Subject: California Marriage Decision--What now? > > ____________________________ > > > Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:07:20 -0400 > > > From: kengland@ > > > To: mdemesa@ > > > Subject: California Marriage Decision--What now? > > > > > > >
[http://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs078/1100422530046/img/83.jpg?
> a=1102102199078] > > > > > > > > > The California Supreme Court Marriage Decision--What now? > > > > > > The last 24 hours have definitely been challenging for
California
> families. Four members of our state's highest court arrogantly > decided to impose their social agenda on citizens-in spite of the > fact we already decided the definition of marriage through > Proposition 22. Understandably, we have received many calls and > emails from families expressing their disappointment and
frustration
> about our judiciary and legislature. > > > > > > While this is a temporary obstacle for our movement, this is
when
> we must reaffirm our resolve and redouble our efforts. Now is not
the
> time to withdraw and cede our culture to tenacious anti-family > activists. Standing up for our values is a ministry that is no > different than feeding the poor or helping the homeless. This is
our
> ministry: to protect a culture that is a safe and healthy place to > raise children and live our faith. > > > > > > America is unique in the world for establishing a society that > balances fundamental rights with individual freedom. But some > factions in society want their man-made rights to overrule our > freedoms. This is the eternal struggle in America. And while this > struggle to preserve our culture will never end, we can restore
our
> freedom. > > > > > > The court's decision cannot be appealed to the United States > Supreme Court so we must overturn our state's judicial activism at > the ballot box. This November, we have the chance to reclaim our > freedom and our power. In light of the California Supreme Court's > outrageous decision, it is essential that we place the traditional > definition of marriage in our constitution. > > > > > > It is vital that you join the Protect Marriage coalition and
work
> to pass the marriage amendment initiative on the November ballot. > > > > > > Here is how you can help: > > > > > > 1. Educate. Email all of your friends, tell church members,
and
> make everyone you know aware of this outrageous court decision.
Many
> people might not understand the ramifications of this decision. In
30
> days, homosexuals will be legally married in this state. But
citizens
> should not feel helpless-we have a ballot initiative to overturn
the
> court's decision. > > > > > > 2. Stay informed. Encourage everyone you know to join our
email
> list so we can keep them up to date on the latest news regarding
the
> family movement and the Protect Marriage campaign. > > > > > > 3. Donate. Volunteering for the campaign is important, but > campaigns are also extremely expensive with all the advertising, > printing and other expenses it takes to spread our message. But
isn't
> a $100 donation worth protecting marriage for our children, > grandchildren and beyond? Isn't a $50 donation worth overturning
SB
> 777 to protect the innocence of our children in schools? Although
it
> may be expensive, the outcome is priceless and necessary. > > > > > > The homosexual campaign against Protect Marriage is already > raising money to defeat our initiative. We estimate we will be > outspent 10-1. > > > > > > Our campaign will be a coalition of moms, dads, grandparents
and
> others who want to preserve our values. > > > > > > Please join this important coalition today. > > > > > > Please Mail Donations to: > > > > > > Capitol Resource Family Impact > > > > > > 660 J Street, Suite 250 > > > > > > Sacramento, CA 95814 > > > > > > American journalist Marilyn vos Savant once stated that "Being > defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes
it
> permanent." The court's decision may be a temporary defeat, but it > will not be permanent because we will never give up! > > > > > > > > > More on the Marriage Ruling > > > > > > Judicial Activism Force Homosexual Marriage on > Californians by Karen England > > > > > > The Danger in Appeasing Gay Rights Activists > > > > > > by Ernest Istook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Supreme Court Opinion > > > > > > Ellen DeGeneres plans to marry > > > > > > > > > Participate in CRI's Poll Question: > > > > > > Do You Support the California Supreme Court's Ruling on
Marriage?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forward email > > > >
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california marriage decision--what now?

Post by E.L. Green » Mon May 19, 2008 4:44 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "notanymoore" wrote:
> Not necessarily. Nothing strengthens the old family values like a > strong heterosexual relationship with your KLR 650.
You must have one of those pink KLR's (yeah yeah, I know you pinkos claim they're *red*, but those of us with the green KLR's know better!). But hey, if sex with mules is good for Republicans (google "Neal Horsley mule sex" for the details on that, they're not suited for a family board), I suppose sex with their mechanical equivalent (KLR's) would be fine for Democrats. But as a none-of-the-above, I think I'll skip that whole scene, thank you very much! Now, I know you folks with pink KLR's claim that you're better than those of us with green KLR's and thus you should get priviliged status under the law while those of us with green KLR's should get relegated to second-class status under the law, but gosh darn it that simply doesn't fly under the Equal Protection clause of the California Constitution, which holds that we're all equal under the law, whether our KLR is pink or green. So there! _E
> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" > wrote: > > > > I think you have the wrong list...this one's about motorcycles. > > > > __Arden > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir Vega III > > wrote: > > > > > > Thought you all might be interested to know... > > > Vlad > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > From: M De Mesa > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:58:23 PM > > > Subject: California Marriage Decision--What now? > > > ____________________________ > > > > Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:07:20 -0400 > > > > From: kengland@ > > > > To: mdemesa@ > > > > Subject: California Marriage Decision--What now? > > > > > > > > > > > [http://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs078/1100422530046/img/83.jpg? > > a=1102102199078] > > > > > > > > > > > > The California Supreme Court Marriage Decision--What now? > > > > > > > > The last 24 hours have definitely been challenging for > California > > families. Four members of our state's highest court arrogantly > > decided to impose their social agenda on citizens-in spite of the > > fact we already decided the definition of marriage through > > Proposition 22. Understandably, we have received many calls and > > emails from families expressing their disappointment and > frustration > > about our judiciary and legislature. > > > > > > > > While this is a temporary obstacle for our movement, this is > when > > we must reaffirm our resolve and redouble our efforts. Now is not > the > > time to withdraw and cede our culture to tenacious anti-family > > activists. Standing up for our values is a ministry that is no > > different than feeding the poor or helping the homeless. This is > our > > ministry: to protect a culture that is a safe and healthy place to > > raise children and live our faith. > > > > > > > > America is unique in the world for establishing a society that > > balances fundamental rights with individual freedom. But some > > factions in society want their man-made rights to overrule our > > freedoms. This is the eternal struggle in America. And while this > > struggle to preserve our culture will never end, we can restore > our > > freedom. > > > > > > > > The court's decision cannot be appealed to the United States > > Supreme Court so we must overturn our state's judicial activism at > > the ballot box. This November, we have the chance to reclaim our > > freedom and our power. In light of the California Supreme Court's > > outrageous decision, it is essential that we place the traditional > > definition of marriage in our constitution. > > > > > > > > It is vital that you join the Protect Marriage coalition and > work > > to pass the marriage amendment initiative on the November ballot. > > > > > > > > Here is how you can help: > > > > > > > > 1. Educate. Email all of your friends, tell church members, > and > > make everyone you know aware of this outrageous court decision. > Many > > people might not understand the ramifications of this decision. In > 30 > > days, homosexuals will be legally married in this state. But > citizens > > should not feel helpless-we have a ballot initiative to overturn > the > > court's decision. > > > > > > > > 2. Stay informed. Encourage everyone you know to join our > email > > list so we can keep them up to date on the latest news regarding > the > > family movement and the Protect Marriage campaign. > > > > > > > > 3. Donate. Volunteering for the campaign is important, but > > campaigns are also extremely expensive with all the advertising, > > printing and other expenses it takes to spread our message. But > isn't > > a $100 donation worth protecting marriage for our children, > > grandchildren and beyond? Isn't a $50 donation worth overturning > SB > > 777 to protect the innocence of our children in schools? Although > it > > may be expensive, the outcome is priceless and necessary. > > > > > > > > The homosexual campaign against Protect Marriage is already > > raising money to defeat our initiative. We estimate we will be > > outspent 10-1. > > > > > > > > Our campaign will be a coalition of moms, dads, grandparents > and > > others who want to preserve our values. > > > > > > > > Please join this important coalition today. > > > > > > > > Please Mail Donations to: > > > > > > > > Capitol Resource Family Impact > > > > > > > > 660 J Street, Suite 250 > > > > > > > > Sacramento, CA 95814 > > > > > > > > American journalist Marilyn vos Savant once stated that "Being > > defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes > it > > permanent." The court's decision may be a temporary defeat, but it > > will not be permanent because we will never give up! > > > > > > > > > > > > More on the Marriage Ruling > > > > > > > > Judicial Activism Force Homosexual Marriage on > > Californians by Karen England > > > > > > > > The Danger in Appeasing Gay Rights Activists > > > > > > > > by Ernest Istook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Supreme Court Opinion > > > > > > > > Ellen DeGeneres plans to marry > > > > > > > > > > > > Participate in CRI's Poll Question: > > > > > > > > Do You Support the California Supreme Court's Ruling on > Marriage? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forward email > > > > > > > [http://img.constantcontact.com/letters/images/safe_unsubscribe_logo. > g > > if] > > > > This email was sent to mdemesa@, by kengland@ > > > > Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with > > SafeUnsubscribe | Privacy Policy. > > > > > > > > Email Marketing by > > > > [http://img.constantcontact.com/letters/images/cc-logo-color- > > sm.gif] > > > > Capitol Resource Institute | 660 J Street | Suite 250 | > > Sacramento | CA | 95814 > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Give to a good cause with every e-mail. 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operating temperature.

Post by Jacobus De Bruyn » Mon May 19, 2008 8:52 pm

You could add a manual switch to the cooling fan, so when you are stopping in hot weather, you can keep the fan running all the time. It is not good to have your coolant boiling. How do I know? Norm Keller has an electricity page on Mark Net, you cannot go wrong with that guy. I agree, marriage should be outlawed. For all sexes and breeds. Jacostarica.

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