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[Dave Watkins]

FTGWN, Just a point to note. In bright sunlight the color displays tend to be harder to read when compared to the normal LCD screens. They also draw a lot more power, a factor when on internal batteries. However there is still the cool factor of the color display. Cheers, Dave Watkins Calgary, Alberta, Canada dave@... www.davewatkins.net Voice: 403-701-5746 Fax: 403-266-0626 Hardware/Software Sales, Service & Support Electronics Restoration Specialists -----Original Message----- From: Tengai Mark Van Horn [mailto:Tengai650@...] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:59 PM To: Keith Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] GPS At 2:47 PM -0500 3/22/04, Keith wrote:

>So far, I have successfully resisted the lure of buying a GPS system. The >temptation is getting worse and I thought that I would ask you guys which >system is the best for mounting on a bike and which provides the most

value?

>Personally I can't picture bolting a $700 GPS on a $1500 KLR and wander

away

>in search of a giant mud bog. Surely there is something that offers road

map

>capability for less.

I'm about five minutes away from buying the recently-introduced Garmin GPSMAP 60CS with TFT color display; www.gpsnow.com (Garmin Authorized Dealer) has the best price that I've found for $406 and two-day FedEx shipping for ~$10.00. Sugg. retail is $535.78 The 60C has all of the features of the CS, except for a barometric altimeter and electronic compass for $369. Mark http://www.reelrider.com List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-03-22 11:52:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, hondapotamus@... writes:

> > So far, I have successfully resisted the lure of buying a GPS system. The > temptation is getting worse and I thought that I would ask you guys which > system is the best for mounting on a bike and which provides the most value? > Personally I can't picture bolting a $700 GPS on a $1500 KLR and wander away > in search of a giant mud bog. Surely there is something that offers road map > capability for less. If this is a FAQ, please steer me to the proper reading > material. > > TIA, > Keith > >

Someday I may fully convert to GPS, but ... I find I still love heading into the unknown. I'm old school in that I can navigate with a topo and a wrist watch with an analog dial. So I went with the Garmin etrex, basically just your electronic sextant/compass/altimeter/log book. I don't mount it, just carry it in a jacket pocket and pull it out when I feel the need to chart my course. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Don Bittle]

> > So far, I have successfully resisted the lure of buying a GPS system.

My GPS is a DeLorme atlas bungied to my gas tank. Works every time. don

[robert bowman]

On Tuesday 23 March 2004 09:00, Don wrote:

> My GPS is a DeLorme atlas bungied to my gas tank. Works every time.

If you're someplace that DeLorme knows about, you're not getting the best out of your bike.

[Andrus Chesley]

I ran with a Garmen 3 for several years using the old A-loop mount. Had it on a DR 350, '95 BMW R11GSA, '97 BMW R11RA, KLR A14, BMW R1150GSA. Never had a problem. All these were hard wired from the battery to the unit thru a fuse. In fact I still rather the old 3 standear mapping than the newer ones. Now I run a Garman 167 which has been on the KLR A14, 02 R1150GSA and 01 DRZ400S. They are also hardwired. But now after my last excursion to Arkansas on the DRZ it battery's won't run but just leave them out anyway. I'm running the mounting system from Cyco Active and a clip bolted bar mount. Kinda a hassle at times to get the unit posistioned right so I can see the bikes intruments and it also without problems. But just love that mapping set up you can put on the chip. Really helps on exploring back roads and getting out of traffic jams. Andy in Louisiana oh yes. all my bikes run stock mufflers ride too many places that could get a person shot for making unnecessary noise.

[vintageracer8882]

what would be a good beginner gps? keep in mind that i am not very tech savy. im looking for one that i can use to keep trails stored. i did a d/s this past weekend and still have the roll chart but i thought a gps would be cool to store the trail route into. im looking 4 something simple. im also wondering what you do if u miss a turn while plotting a trail on your gps. do u have to reset something when u turn around to go back and find the correct trail ? id also like to be able to mount it on the bars. simple, user friendly and cheap is always a good thing also. thanks guys, scott

[EbarDP48@aol.com]

Scott, I would suggest a Garmin V. I picked one up before a five day D/S ride around Western, NC and it paid for itself on that trip alone. There is a newer, color version that will take the place of the Garmin V, but for the package they give you and for the money I think it's a good deal. For reference, the 19meg of Ram it has allowed me to store all the detail maps of the western North Carolina area and have room for my trip up around the East side of Atlanta and into Franklin, NC. Unless you're going to do a dual sport through more than that you shouldn't need more. It's also very user friendly and easy to learn. It will require you to load the great mapping software Garmin gives you onto your home computer and load your routes and detail maps as you need them. Again this software is very user friendly. This model has more options than you'll probably ever need....Speed, elevation, backtrack your trail, time, etc, etc.....and the mapping software allows you to plot your course before you ever leave the house. Really makes you wish D/S clubs would make the Trips available to participants online to download before an event. It would sure save some time in cutting and taping roll charts together. Bert Barnes 04 KLR 650 A18 Big Red 01DRZ 400S Yellow Zook what would be a good beginner gps? keep in mind that i am not very tech savy. im looking for one that i can use to keep trails stored. i did a d/s this past weekend and still have the roll chart but i thought a gps would be cool to store the trail route into. im looking 4 something simple. im also wondering what you do if u miss a turn while plotting a trail on your gps. do u have to reset something when u turn around to go back and find the correct trail ? id also like to be able to mount it on the bars. simple, user friendly and cheap is always a good thing also. thanks guys, scott [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Mark Sampson]

what would be a good beginner gps? keep in mind that i am not very tech savy. im looking for one that i can use to keep trails stored. i did a d/s this past weekend and still have the roll chart but i thought a gps would be cool to store the trail route into. im looking 4 something simple. Scott---any GPS you buy is not simple to operate if you are using all of it's features----just looking at the screen is simple--but managing, storing, and editing routes, track logs and waypoints may seem like something you will never grasp at first. It takes time-------read the manual over and over---and do some riding with it out on the trails--put the two together and after time you will understand it all--and love it-----and now unbelievable riding opportunities will open up to you. I do recommend a Garmin GPSV to start with--I think you can buy new ones for $275 now---it's a pretty full featured unit-------it's not what I use (I currently have a Garmin 276C) as I need a more featured unit--but that one will keep you entertained for a very long time. The V mounts to a dirtbike handlebar very nicely and has some onboard map memory---17MB I think. im also wondering what you do if u miss a turn while plotting a trail on your gps. do u have to reset something when u turn around to go back and find the correct trail ? Now you are getting more complicated-----track logs can be edited after mastering Garmin Mapsource mapping software--don't worry about this now--you can learn that later. Note:--you need this software to store and manage all you GPS data. Mark Sampson www.bigdogadventures.com

[EbarDP48@aol.com]

I should have also mentioned, when I suggested the Garmin GPS V . It comes with a car mount, but you'll need a handlebar mount. We go through some pretty nasty stuff at times so I opted for the TouraTech MvG Handlebar mount for GPSII, III, V model cycoactive.com/gps/gps_mounts.html#iiTT They offer two models for this GPS. I got the more expensive ($139) as this model comes with the best isolation damping material you could ever imagine. I keep it on my KLR 650, but I also own a DRZ 400 and wanted to install it on that bike as well and I knew It would take more of a pounding on the suzuki because of the terrain I would be covering. You can also get a hardwire kit from the web address shown above... This is just one of the many web sites I looked at while shopping for the Garnin GPS V. It will give you some specs and info on this unit. store.yahoo.com/compwestusa/nvdeluxe.html Bert Barnes 04 KLR 650 01 DRZ 400S [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[April Neave & Norm Keller]

What ever GPS you decide to buy, make sure that it has a computer interface cable so that you can upload tracks and other data from your GPS to store and review on computer. This will be easier to see than on the tiny GPS screen and will allow you to store more information than can be retained by the GPS. Other advantages are that you will not lose your data when doing an upgrade on the GPS, will be able to share data with others, and so on. HIH Norm