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[Steven van Twuyver]

My Garmin ll plus lasted exactly 1 1/2 long road rides. The first failure, the batteries arced and carbonized from the vibration. After the second ride I ran it directly off the battery and it stopped acquiring satelites but still powered on. This model was old and only useful for tracking since it doesn't have a built-in map, but I would have been disappointed if I had just spent a lot of money on an up-to-date unit. I would use one of those vibration isolated mounts specifically for GPSes. I have reverted to paper maps. No hassle, just a yellow highlighter and you are one your way. Failure occurs only as a result of human error. -svt-

[guy.massicotte@recreation.bombardier.com]

what is the best gps for klr trail and road and the best handle bar mount Tank's Guy

[Conall O'Brien]

>From: guy.massicotte@... >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] gps >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:11:01 -0500 > > > >what is the best gps for klr trail and road and the best handle bar mount >Tank's >Guy > >

Here are two sources for handlebar GPS mounts: http://www.map-engineering.com/gps.htm or http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/gps_mounts.html Conall http://www.klr650.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

[guy.massicotte@recreation.bombardier.com]

what is the best gps for klr trail and road and the best handle bar mount Tank's Guy

[Dan Oaks]

guy.massicotte@... wrote:

> what is the best gps for klr trail and road and the best handle bar mount > Tank's > Guy

************** I recommend anything with "map" made by Garmin, held on by the cheapest mount ($39.00) from cycoactive. http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/gps_mounts.html#gcemh The over-engineered over-built mounts made by TouraTech ($82.43 to $107.15) are nice but expensive conversational pieces. A toilet seat mounted on your luggage rack will generate more talk at a lower cost. -- bierdo

[CrazyDave]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:11:01 -0500, guy.massicotte@... wrote:

> > > what is the best gps for klr trail and road and the best handle bar

mount

> Tank's > Guy >

Emap, Ram mount, Love mine. Dave _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

[CrazyDave]

On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:18:47 -0000, zircam@... wrote:

> Crazy Dave - > > I was thinking of getting an emap. They are affordable now on ebay. > Are they waterproof/resistant to stay out in the rain? > > Thanks for any advice, > Robb > Baltimore, Md > '00KLR650

No they are not waterproof, I bought mine from the highest volume dealer in the US, he used the yellow shock cover (cant used power cord with cover) with velcro mounting on his jetski with no probs. He said just dont use the buttons when wet. I dont worry about it since it never rains in Phoenix. I have a 64 meg chip in it, contains all AZ in Roads & Rec and about 3/4 of the States topos. I dont think I would use it in the rain. crazydave _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

[Peter Dahlheimer, MD]

i have a garmin 12map. it's a 3+ in the case of the old "12". used it in torrential rains in nova scotia and no problems at all. no problems on the xr400 in rough stuff either. i use the cycoactive mount. would buy it again. if you mount one, be sure to use a power cord and take out the batteries so their weight (the majority of the total weight of the unit when they are in) doesn't damage the unit. _pete -----Original Message----- From: CrazyDave [mailto:crazydave_2@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:14 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: gps

On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:18:47 -0000, zircam@... wrote: > Crazy Dave - > > I was thinking of getting an emap. They are affordable now on ebay. > Are they waterproof/resistant to stay out in the rain? > > Thanks for any advice, > Robb > Baltimore, Md > '00KLR650 No they are not waterproof, I bought mine from the highest volume dealer in the US, he used the yellow shock cover (cant used power cord with cover) with velcro mounting on his jetski with no probs. He said just dont use the buttons when wet. I dont worry about it since it never rains in Phoenix. I have a 64 meg chip in it, contains all AZ in Roads & Rec and about 3/4 of the States topos. I dont think I would use it in the rain. crazydave _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Joshua Sammons]

I have the Garmin GPS III w/ the Touratech mount. Bought it from cycoactive. They took it apart, glued the insides together to make it more sturdy for the KLR. It's never failed me in the rail or in the direct sun. It was pricy tho. About 250 for the GPS and 90 for the mount. If i had to do it over, i probably would get the Garmin Emap. Still happy w/ this setup tho. josh

----- Original Message ----- From: "CrazyDave" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:14 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: gps > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:18:47 -0000, zircam@... wrote: > > > Crazy Dave - > > > > I was thinking of getting an emap. They are affordable now on ebay. > > Are they waterproof/resistant to stay out in the rain? > > > > Thanks for any advice, > > Robb > > Baltimore, Md > > '00KLR650 > > No they are not waterproof, I bought mine from the highest volume dealer in > the US, he used the yellow shock cover (cant used power cord with cover) > with velcro mounting on his jetski with no probs. He said just dont use the > buttons when wet. I dont worry about it since it never rains in Phoenix. > I have a 64 meg chip in it, contains all AZ in Roads & Rec and about 3/4 > of the States topos. I dont think I would use it in the rain. > > crazydave > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Steve Anderson]

The best GPS for the KLR? In the past the Garmin GPS III+/12Map and to a lesser extant (due to the price, mostly) the Street Pilot have been the accepted state of the art for the enduro world. These units are exceptionally rugged, and quite waterproof. After a sailing capsize incident, my III+ actually survived being under two meters of water for about forty-five minutes, while powered up on the end of a safety line tied to the boat. The only sign of difficulty from this misadventure was a couple of drops of water that got in the battery compartment. I have run this unit on kayaks and even jet skis with no problem. In the years that I have run the III/III+ on my motorcycles I did manage to vibrate the guts to the point of damage on four units before Garmin managed to address the problem. I explained I was running the units on dirt bikes; should I stop? They told me to keep breaking them, as this would be the best way for them to figure out how to beef them up (ya gotta like these guy's!). Probably the biggest deficiency with the III+/12Map is the lack of adequate map memory. Then Garmin introduced this eMap. I have one of these in my bag of tricks; I presently own four GPS s ;-]. I got this as a better backup to the III+. I have done adventures on motorcycles, hiking and kayaks that actually relied on being able to get back to marked positions. This is a great unit for keeping in your pocket. It has pretty much as much memory as you can afford, and has the ability to use the MetroGuide data that the III+ lacks the memory for. I personally would NOT consider mounting this unit to my motorcycles. It is not built anything like the III+/12Map. I don t think it would be able to handle the abuse I dish out; remember that I was able to destroy several of the III s on my scoots until they came up with a fix. I think one trip in the rain would destroy the eMap, and the unlighted keys would be a major pain at night. This unit also lacks many of the nice firmware features on the III+/12Map that aren t really necessary, but I find very desirable. Being able to monitor voltage is just one of them. Garmin has recently announced two units that look as though they may be exceptional for use on enduros. When I manage to get my hands on them, I will let you all know. These would be the Vista: http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVista/index.html and the Legend: http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexLegend/index.html with the Vista looking to be the sweet unit, and the Legend being the budget minded unit. Bottom line: Personally, I would suggest that any of you looking for a unit for your motorcycle wait a couple of months and see how these units work out for enduro motorcycles. I would be very cautious about jumping in and buying an eMap for these uses because of the serious deficiencies, and that many, if not all may be addressed by these new units. To all you eMap users: please don t bother to flame me about how great these units are remember I also own one. Although I think it is an exceptional unit for keeping in my pocket, I don t really feel that is ideally suited to the rigors of motorcycling in general, and enduros to be certain. I still think that the III+ would be the ideal unit for enduros if it had adequate map memory. These are just my opinions, YMMV, but I have owned and destroyed numerous units and worked in the GPS business (agriculture) for several years though. If any of you would like to address questions concerning GPS and/or their use on motorcycles off list, please feel free. Steve A. in AZ