kick starts nklr

[Chris Norloff]

I've heard of plastic bags that have a peel-and-stick so they stick to your butt while you're doing your business. A bit problematic for the hairy ones, but it'd keep you regular. Chris -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Grisanti Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:25 PM To: Arden Kysely; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Anyone visted Canyonlands National Park on a Bike?

> If you're set on backcountry camping in the park, here's one solution: > http://www.rei.com/product/662978

These are designed to be used with a folding porta-potty, which when folded is about the size of an attache case. We bought one for use with our VW camper, but you would have to be very athletic/limber/creative (and have good aim) to use the bags without the accompanying support apparatus for which they were designed. Still, they're an option. Stephen

[Stephen Grisanti]

Excellent idea, but there may be other (read bureaucratic/environmental) issues to contend with. I understand, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that when going to places like this on wheels that they won't LET YOU IN without a porta-potty. This is not an issue for four-wheelers and their capacity, but if you're on two wheels you might be excluded because you're not packing enough "luggage," regardless of your thorough preparation. I guess we need to know the exact requirements for access to the area and not just the best approach for two wheelers to pack out waste. Stephen --- Gary LaRue wrote:

> As much camping as I have done, I've never had to > poop scoop after myself. That said, how's this for > an idea: Bring a small stack of newspaper and a few > gallon sized Ziplock (or equivilent) freezer bags. > Use freezer bags because they are thicker. Water > the plants naturally (well away from surface water, > as required) then make your deposit on top of a few > sheets of newspaper. Fold & wrap securely and slide > into a Ziplock, maybe even two just to be sure. > What say ye, oh Ones Of Vast Experience? > > Lash > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

[Ross Lindberg]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Norloff" wrote:

> > I've heard of plastic bags that have a peel-and-stick so they stick

to your

> butt while you're doing your business. A bit problematic for the

hairy ones,

> but it'd keep you regular. > > Chris >

Now there's a mental picture I just didn't need. Ross Lindberg Fertile, MN

[Arden Kysely]

The nice thing about the gel bags is that it's legal to throw them in the trash since they contain a decomposing component. You violate a law or two tossing news-wrapped turds in the dumpster. I've been in remote parts of Canyonlands on a bike and never been asked if I had a terlut with me. Truth is, there aren't that many rangers patrolling so you're really left up to your own ethics and conscience as to waste handling. Like I said in a previous post, it's easier to camp just outside the boundaries. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Grisanti wrote:

> > Excellent idea, but there may be other (read > bureaucratic/environmental) issues to contend with. I > understand, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that > when going to places like this on wheels that they > won't LET YOU IN without a porta-potty. This is not > an issue for four-wheelers and their capacity, but if > you're on two wheels you might be excluded because > you're not packing enough "luggage," regardless of > your thorough preparation. I guess we need to know > the exact requirements for access to the area and not > just the best approach for two wheelers to pack out > waste. > > Stephen > > --- Gary LaRue wrote: > > > As much camping as I have done, I've never had to > > poop scoop after myself. That said, how's this for > > an idea: Bring a small stack of newspaper and a few > > gallon sized Ziplock (or equivilent) freezer bags. > > Use freezer bags because they are thicker. Water > > the plants naturally (well away from surface water, > > as required) then make your deposit on top of a few > > sheets of newspaper. Fold & wrap securely and slide > > into a Ziplock, maybe even two just to be sure. > > What say ye, oh Ones Of Vast Experience? > > > > Lash > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

______________________________________________________________________ ______________

> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >

[Bryan Burke]

Poop tubes are commonly used for kayak touring, where boats are too small to carry a backcountry toilet. Climbers also use this simple device. It's small enough to easily pack on a KLR. Get a piece of 4" diameter PVC pipe about 12" to 15" long. Glue a cap on one end. Glue a threaded coupling on the other. Screw a cap to the threaded coupling. Buy a cheap trowel at the hardware store. Do your business, scoop the poop into the tube, throw in any toilet paper, cap it, and move on. Back at civilization, cleaning a camp toilet is never fun but pretty easy. Fill any remaining space in the tube with water to loosen everything up. Pour it out at a trailer dump or in an outhouse. A little hot water and bleach to rinse it out and you are good to go again. Don't pour bleach/water mix into a septic system or a composting outhouse 'cause it will hurt the resident bacteria. If Canyonlands is booked, don't worry. There are thousands of miles of gorgeous rides in southwest Utah and right across the state line in Colorado. BLM, State, and Forest Service land is usually a lot less crowded. If you do get a campsite in Canyonlands, be ready for really bad mosquitos if the site is down by the river on the west side of the White Rim Road.

[denvowell@aol.com]

In a message dated 2/26/2008 2:29:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bryantburke@... writes: Get a piece of 4" diameter PVC pipe about 12" to 15" long. Glue a cap on one end. Glue a threaded coupling on the other. Screw a cap to the threaded coupling. Buy a cheap trowel at the hardware store. Do your business, scoop the poop into the tube, throw in any toilet paper, cap it, and move on. I hope no one gets this confused with my tool tube Dennis A18 **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Mike Frey]

I may not be really good at a lot of things, but I am a master of pooping outdoors. Why, I've defecated in the finest forests of the USA! ...and cornfields ...and wheat fields ...and hedge rows ...and highway underpasses If I were visiting a park on 2 wheels, and a ranger had an issue with me - that I might poo illegally somewhere - I will turn around and choose another destination.

[Fred Hink]

Yes, do us all a favor and please do. You should have SMELLED the Colorado River Corridor before all the toilets were built. You may think your crap doesn't stink but I got news for you......... You have to understand that life in a desert is very different from what you may be used to. Canyonlands is in a desert and we only get about 6" of rain a year. Things outside do not decompose very fast. So your poop may be gone in a few months where you come from but in the desert it keeps piling up. Real nice! Since we don't get a lot of rain the vegetation that we do have has struggled to hold on to it's little piece of sand and can be easily killed by running it over. That is why it is a good idea to stay on the trail and off the vegetation. One track is usually not a problem but several hundred will turn this place into a blowing sand storm. The desert is a very beautiful place. Please treat it with respect. I'm off my Eco sand box now.... Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead

----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Frey To: List KLR Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Anyone visted Canyonlands National Park on a Bike? I may not be really good at a lot of things, but I am a master of pooping outdoors. Why, I've defecated in the finest forests of the USA! ...and cornfields ...and wheat fields ...and hedge rows ...and highway underpasses If I were visiting a park on 2 wheels, and a ranger had an issue with me - that I might poo illegally somewhere - I will turn around and choose another destination. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[a14@att.net]

> I hope no one gets this confused with my tool tube > Dennis A18 >

Except the thief trying to steal your tools upon opening it finding it is the stool tube. Walt

[Robert Waters]

Thanks to all who have shared information etc. on this question, thanks. It has been helpful. Some have indicated that more information was shared than they would have preferred to have received. The story I'm going to tell you might be more of the same.... My daughter-in-law went to South America on a backpack hike with some friends. They were following a mountain trail that was so narrow (bluff on both sides) that there was no room to even step aside to do a number. She actually got diarrhea and HAD to go--a lot. Well imagine the embarrassment--there were other people passing on the trail while she was doing her business. I don't know what kind of facility was used, if any. She used to not talk much and was seldom controversial. Since she came back she almost seems to be a different person. rw TotalHealth.bz Focus On Truth --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]