klr650 oil change interval (oci)

[CA Stu]

I just replaced the front rim on my '99. The weld had cracked all the way through the rim on the shoulder and was visibly cracked all the way across the weld on the inside of the rim. I got a new Excel rim from Chaparral from $111 and laced it myself. Paid the local independent bike shop $30 to true it and torque it to spec.. Now it has 5 mph more top end. Thanks CA Stu

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Dave Svoboda wrote: > I agree. It's not like completely broken wheels are a common KLR > complaint, > - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo >

[Randall Marbach]

Same thing happened to my A17, also check your spoke tension, I couldn't keep mine properly adjusted. Had Bucannan Spoke lace up an excell rim with heavy duty spokes. Thinking about having them lace up the front with an 18" rim and heavy spokes, running a 18" d606. HTH Randy from Burbank ----- Original Message ---- From: mikeypep To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 3:44:24 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Small Cracks in Rear Wheel Agreed. These are stress cracks. If they are surface cracks they will probably not grow but I doubt that they are. Aluminum fatigues at a stress point and the spoke nipple cutout can be a focusing point for stress. Keep an eye on it. I wouldn't panic, but if I were off- roading a lot this wheel would go. Hell, now I've got to go out and check MY wheel! --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Lassman, Mike" wrote:

> > cracks are a propagating type of defect. I guarantee you they will

grow. I would be concerned about hitting a pot hole or large bump and breaking the rim, sorta like when you cut glass you score it then break it. These cracks may do the same thing if allowed to progress,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

> > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of Dave Svoboda

> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:59 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Small Cracks in Rear Wheel > > > > At 03:58 PM 8/16/2007, Jeff Saline wrote: > > >On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:57:46 -0400 Tengai Mark Van Horn > > > > > Today, I was changing my rear tire. When I cleaned it up, I

noticed a

> > > > > > small crack radiating from almost every spoke hole in the wheel

on

> > > the outside of the rim. > > Probably work-hardening, like what brought down the DeHavilland

Comet

> jetliners. > > >One other possibility is to just ride it like it is and watch the

cracks.

> >If they don't get worse don't worry about them and if they do get

worse

> >then do something about them. > > I agree. It's not like completely broken wheels are a common KLR > complaint, and if the cracks > don't go all the way through, well, it's not a jetliner, you > know? I've seen similar cracks on > mine, but until a spoke threatens to pull through, I'm not about to > spend time and money on it. > > I wouldn't worry about it overmuch. > > - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Dave Svoboda wrote:

> > At 03:58 PM 8/16/2007, Jeff Saline wrote: > > >On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:57:46 -0400 Tengai Mark Van Horn > > > > > Today, I was changing my rear tire. When I cleaned it up, I

noticed a

> > > > > > small crack radiating from almost every spoke hole in the wheel

on

> > > the outside of the rim. > > Probably work-hardening, like what brought down the DeHavilland

Comet

> jetliners. > > >One other possibility is to just ride it like it is and watch the

cracks.

> >If they don't get worse don't worry about them and if they do get

worse

> >then do something about them. > > I agree. It's not like completely broken wheels are a common KLR > complaint, and if the cracks > don't go all the way through, well, it's not a jetliner, you > know? I've seen similar cracks on > mine, but until a spoke threatens to pull through, I'm not about to > spend time and money on it. > > I wouldn't worry about it overmuch. > > - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo >

Hello Dave, I would agree, sort of, and disagree vigorously. I would offer the caveat, 'Where are you riding it?" But first, a 'story' from a parallel universe, cough. Helicopters kill people when the pilot-operator (notice: there is a difference) kill the occupants when the principle operator, the guy/gal at the controls, ignores the helicopters' invitation to land. That invitation is usually vibration, stiff controls, howling noise, (other than the nurse complaining about the pilots flight technique, etc). Continued flight under those circumstances can result in a messy landing. Likewise, your KLR is inviting you to fix a pending failure by first showing you a crack before it completely fails. Ignoring an invitation to fix a problem as significant as a cracked wheel could be just as catastrophic for the KLR operator as a pilot ignoring the helicopter symptoms that suggests a near-immediate landing is prudent. Back to the caveat: Maybe, if your KLR is a 'farm-pig' or an trailered ORV-pig, maybe, I would ride it, but if it is a go-to-town- KLR-pig, ride 100's of miles from home KLR-pig, or ride your kid on the back KLR-pig, the cracked rim takes on an entire new dimension for your personally, and for those whose impact zone your ride through. revmaaatin.

[Ed Dobson]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Blake Sobiloff wrote: > > > > On Feb 3, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Ed Dobson wrote: > Massive snippage > > Imagine my surprise when I (and others) found out how > > hard the KLR is on its oil. > > > > So, if I'm not persuasive then please feel free to pick your own > OCIs-- > > I'm not trying to bully anyone into anything, but merely offering > my > > advice when solicited. > > -- > > Blake Sobiloff > > http://www.sobiloff.com/> > > San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > Ed, > Here-in lies the difficulty of buying a used bike (I did--new to me, > at 2,500 miles--the third owner), is knowing that it was taken care > of in the beginning. Taken care of by the standards, well > established by experience gleaned from list wisdom and careful > analysis beyond KHI book of suggestions (=owners handbook; i.e. the > chain tension and alignment procedure, sorely lacking for exacting > results; and yes, I follow their torque values). I for one trust the > experience and analysis of Blake and the men/women at (sic) > Caterpillar Oil Analysis over the vague suggestions of mother KHI. > > It's your bike. Judging by the 24 bikes for sale right now on EBAY, > I would say that most people wouldn't keep their KLR beyond your > personal OCI of 6000 miles. shrug. In the short term, that OCI won't > matter. I, and others believe in the long term, it does matter. For > those on a limited income, (and unlimited cyber space yak-ing), my > personal goal for MCI (motorcycle change interval) is 60,000 miles, > not 6,000. shrug again. > > If later, you should offer your 'well maintained-by OEM standards' > motorcycle for sale, offer the buyer the courtesy of knowing that the > oil (OCI) was changed at 6,000 miles and not 1,0000 or 1,500, so > that if that person is me, cough, I can politely decline the purchase. > > revmaaatin. >

I wouldn't sell to a Reverend, with all their problems, you know. ED