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[delsuhr@optonline.net]

A must-read article from Motorcyclist Magazine for anyone shopping for a new hat: Motorcycle Helmet Performance: Blowing the Lid Off http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/. There is also a Part II but I couldn't find it online. This article, however, has just about all you need to know. There was a time when I wouldn't consider anything without the Snell certification, but this has convinced me to expand my universe to (usually much cheaper) brands I might have otherwise not given a second look. The gist of the article is that many of the DOT-only helmets transmit much lower g-forces at impact (a good thing) than the buckets that must pass the Snell testing. EGS

----- Original Message ----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 4, 2008 6:59 pm Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Digest Number 10306 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com DualSportNews' KLR650 Discussion List Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 7a. 8a. How to eval a helmet. From: mikeypep 8b. Re: How to eval a helmet. From: Zachariah Mully 8c. Re: How to eval a helmet. From: Jim Douglas 8d. Re: How to eval a helmet. From: fasteddiecopeman 8e. Re: How to eval a helmet. From: Arden Kysely 9. How easy to service new '08 KLR 650? From: ferrisl View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. How to eval a helmet. Posted by: "mikeypep" mikeypep@... mikeypep Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:59 pm (PST) Before we get to a tire thread, can we look a a helmet question? Based on extensive test results cost does not effect safety. A $400 Arai is not twice as "safe"as a $200 HJC, or even a $100 Scorpion. Lets call that a given(please). Comfort is somewhat relevant in that a lower cost helmet may be more comfortable than a more expensive one due to fit, although the expensive ones tend to be more comfortable. What about noise. It seems to me that modulars are more noisy (wind noise) than a solid full face, lower cost helmets seem to be noisier than more expensive ones and lighter too. Just does one look to achieve ini using the more expensive helmets? Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 8b. Re: How to eval a helmet. Posted by: "Zachariah Mully" zmully@... mackzully Mon Feb 4, 2008 2:06 pm (PST) On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 21:59 +0000, mikeypep wrote: > Just does one look to achieve ini using > the more expensive helmets? I think you meant: "Just what does one look to achieve by wearing a more expensive helmet?" Trying wearing one for a week for 10 hours a day and you'll find out. Comfort, noise, and weight are all major factors. That, and regardless of how hard I've tried, I've never found a single cheap ( > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 21:59 +0000, mikeypep wrote: > > Just does one look to achieve ini using > > the more expensive helmets? > Of course the salesman will say 'How much is your head worth", well actually they don't make a 5M dollar helmet! > > > __ Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 8d. Re: How to eval a helmet. Posted by: "fasteddiecopeman" fasteddiecopeman@... fasteddiecopeman Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:08 pm (PST) Mike, IMHO ....;>), When you see a **** for $100, and a **** Hayden Replica for $400 (YOU fill in the blanks), the ONLY difference being the paint job, somebody's doing somebody! I look for a sticker saying "Snell and DOT", then I look at the price, then I try them on, CHEAPEST one first. The one that feels the best at the LOWEST price gets the nod. (I have a Shoei, 2 KBC's, 2 HJC's(?), an O'neal and an Answer Racing. The Shoei was $130 on clearance while the rest AVERAGE about $55 EACH, so I look REALLY hard for, and take advantage of, SALES.) I ALWAYS use ear-plugs, so they're all about equally quiet, though I'm sure they're NOT! Two of them have been to Alaska and back thru days and days of rain and cold, and I was toasty and comfortable. Do I have one I instinctively WON'T choose? NOPE - anyone, anyday! Cheers, Ed Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 8e. Re: How to eval a helmet. Posted by: "Arden Kysely" arden646@... dualsportz Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:15 pm (PST) --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully wrote: snipp... > "Just what does one look to achieve by wearing a more expensive helmet?" > > Trying wearing one for a week for 10 hours a day and you'll find out. > Comfort, noise, and weight are all major factors. That, and regardless > of how hard I've tried, I've never found a single cheap ( that is anywhere close to being as comfortable as my Art Friedman Orange > Shoei RF800. > > Plus, parts are far easier to find for Shoei/Arai/HJC. > > Z > Good point on the part availability, Z. Here's what I look at. Fit & comfort--does the helmet fit your head snugly but with no pressure points? Is the liner comfy? A helmet with a lousy liner can fit but not be comfortable. Don't confuse a loose fitting helmet for comfortable, as they can come off or twist on your head in a crash. A new helmet should be very snug. A good fitting helmet is likely to be quieter as well. Weight & aerodynamics--a heavier helmet or one with poor aerodynamics will wear you out much sooner that a light one with good aeros. Does is twist your head to the side when you turn your head at speed? Operability--can you work the vent thingies with your gloves on, do the vents ventilate or does the liner block them, does the shield seal well, can you remove it easily, is the liner removable so you can wash it? Durability--do the plastic parts stay on or fall off, does the shield scratch easily, does the chin strap fray, does the liner pill? Color--brighter is better, IMO. AF oranges sounds good. My fave is the Sport Yellow that Arai used to make. Noise--I wear ear plugs. Still, I notice the difference between a full- face, a flip-up, and an XD style dual-sport helmet. I have several helmets from various makers and price points. My daily rider is a Scorpion EXO which I can lock to the bike without worrying about. It's a little heavy for long rides, otherwise I'm quite happy with it. __Arden Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 9. Recent Activity 21 New Members 18 New Photos Visit Your Group Health Zone Look your best! 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[Stuart Mumford]

Maier Enduro Jugs are the best solution. That said, it's very rare that I have even come close to running my KLR out of gas. I mean heck, even bone stock, there is planty of range to find a gas station way before you need it. I am far more likely to have an empty Gatorade bottle to use to transfer from my tank to some poor Husky / Honda rider that is low on fuel. If I had to pick one readily available containe to pack extra gas, hands down it would be a Gatorade bottle. They are damn near bulletproof, and as far as the static electricity angle, just put it on the ground while you fill it. I would only carry it until I could squeeze all the gas into my tank and then be done with it. Thanks CA Stu

> -----Original Message----- > > Apparently the containers made to hold fuel are different in that static > electricity does not build up in them. If you try to fill a container not > approved for fuel at a service station in Oz they will quickly stop the > pump. There are signs everywhere that fuel is only to be pumped into > "approved" containers ie metal or plastic designed to hold fuel. They even > go so far as to make sure you put instructions up to make sure you do it > correctly. > >