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[Ronald Criswell]

I got together with some local KLR guys the other day and one had a 18 inch front rim / tire (fatter tire). He loved it when they all went riding in rocky areas in Arkansas recently. I asked how it was at high speed and he said a little squirriley due to an increased fork angle but overall was happy with it. He said it costs him about $50 to do. I wonder if anyone has ever tried a 19 inch or 20 front rim with wide tire? Criswell

[rockiedog2]

what rim/spokes etc. did he use and did he do it himself or is there somebody out there doing it commercially? thanks Joe --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell wrote:

> > I got together with some local KLR guys the other day and one had a > 18 inch front rim / tire (fatter tire). He loved it when they all > went riding in rocky areas in Arkansas recently. I asked how it was > at high speed and he said a little squirriley due to an increased > fork angle but overall was happy with it. He said it costs him about > $50 to do. I wonder if anyone has ever tried a 19 inch or 20 front > rim with wide tire? > > Criswell >

[Ronald Criswell]

He told me but I forgot. He had someone else do it. I may see him again this weekend at the CycleWorld bike show. If I do I'll ask. Type-o on price - it costs about $450. Criswell

On Nov 8, 2007, at 9:46 AM, rockiedog2 wrote: > what rim/spokes etc. did he use and did he do it himself or is there > somebody out there doing it commercially? > thanks Joe > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell > wrote: > > > > I got together with some local KLR guys the other day and one had a > > 18 inch front rim / tire (fatter tire). He loved it when they all > > went riding in rocky areas in Arkansas recently. I asked how it was > > at high speed and he said a little squirriley due to an increased > > fork angle but overall was happy with it. He said it costs him about > > $50 to do. I wonder if anyone has ever tried a 19 inch or 20 front > > rim with wide tire? > > > > Criswell > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[sd_ware]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell wrote:

> > I got together with some local KLR guys the other day and one had a > 18 inch front rim / tire (fatter tire). He loved it when they all > went riding in rocky areas in Arkansas recently. I asked how it was > at high speed and he said a little squirriley due to an increased > fork angle but overall was happy with it. He said it costs him about > $50 to do. I wonder if anyone has ever tried a 19 inch or 20 front > rim with wide tire? > > Criswell >

Interesting, what tire is being used? I have found no downside to the 18". At speed it feels more planted then the 21". Tank slap and other asphalt and comparative wind discrepancies are reduced over the stock tire due to the greater contact patch. In the dirt, the wider tire will float through the soft stuff and when going over rocks and rough terrain, the wider profile will roll over without deflection that the skinner tire will be prone to experience. Also, the wider tire allows running of much low air pressure which would destroy a rim or cause a pinch flat with the skinner tire. A wider 18" front is a great improvement for both road and trails on the KLR. I wouldn't advise it for a true lightweight MX but for the weight distribution of the KLR, it is an amazing improvement. BTW, my 18" is an IRC GP110 4.6" Doug

[Harry Seifert]

Hi Cris, EagleMike, Mark Bakarich and I laced up 18" fronts about a year and a half ago.................. We got our rims and 5mm spokes from Buchanon's in LA and had them laced up in about an hour or so, thanks to the facilities at EagleMike's shop; dial gauges, big vises, proper spoke wrenches and a good spoke torque wrench. Anyway, I put a 120/70x18 Michelin Pilot Activ on my wheel and Mike put a Bridgestone 120/70x18 BT45 on his. I'm not sure what Bakarich put on his. Now, with 18 months and 5,000+ miles on mine, I have absolutely no complaints about my new front end. It tracks like it's on rails and has ZERO twitchiness. My KLR now handles like my '72 Ducati 450 Jupiter, a little slow in response, it takes a little more effort to initiate a turn, but corners like its running on velcro, very planted and secure As I posted somewhere, maybe even here, the trail has decreased by less than 1/4" and the rake is within 2 degrees of stock. Your compadre was riding off road with his new front end, did he lower the pressure in his tires? If so, did he air them up afterwards? What tires was he running? What kind of rim did he use, what diameter of spokes did he use? Are the pinch bolts on his forks properly torqued? Is there any slop in his steering head bearings? Are his front and rear suspension components up to snuff? There's a whole lotta stuff that affects how the front end reacts, so make sure everything else is as correct as it can be. BTW, it was close to $200 with the rim, spokes, tube and tire. Buddy bseifert71@...

> [Original Message] > From: Ronald Criswell > To: KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 11/8/2007 6:15:16 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] 18 inch front wheel > > I got together with some local KLR guys the other day and one had a > 18 inch front rim / tire (fatter tire). He loved it when they all > went riding in rocky areas in Arkansas recently. I asked how it was > at high speed and he said a little squirriley due to an increased > fork angle but overall was happy with it. He said it costs him about > $50 to do. I wonder if anyone has ever tried a 19 inch or 20 front > rim with wide tire? > > Criswell > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[Andrus Chesley]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell wrote:

> > I got together with some local KLR guys the other day and one had a > 18 inch front rim / tire (fatter tire). He loved it when they all > went riding in rocky areas in Arkansas recently. I asked how it was > at high speed and he said a little squirriley due to an increased > fork angle but overall was happy with it. He said it costs him about > $50 to do. I wonder if anyone has ever tried a 19 inch or 20 front > rim with wide tire? > > Criswell >

A friend of mine in Ohio whom still does dirt track and ice racing stuff is fixing to lace an 18" on his KLR he just bought. He told me something like on 1/2" of less diameter on outer diameter of the front wheel due to the larger tire. Any one do a measurement on this also. Also looks like you could do a ride height adjustment with extenders or the like. I once did a 19" on my old XT Yamaha 500 with good results. Good stability and all. Andy in Jennings, La.

[Rodney Copeland]

I've logged over 25,000 miles since early 04 when I transplanted the big 18 rear on the front of the Hoss KLR. Since then I've done Pam's Sherpa too and have over 8,000 miles with a big rear 18 on the front. We won't be goin back. The increase in stability in all conditions outweigh any small change in rake or increase in weight. I knew quite a few are doin this transplant now, but haven't seen any others till this year in Tennessee and New Mexico. I don't feel so lonely anymore. I've been sendin anyone that asks, to Woody's Wheel Works and haven't heard any complaints. This certainly wouldn't qualify as a "Must Do" type thing, but sure has been a blast in the mud and sand! I don't really carve the streets hard, I'm knobbed pretty good, but the Super Moto Hoodlums seem to like big rubber on the front. Not sure about the fit of a 19 inch rim with a say 120-90 rear tire on the front of a KLR. It may get you up in the more narrow area between the fork boots and rub. Maybe a lower profile would work. I used the 18s for better tire selection and clearance. I agree that if you have this much more rubber on the ground and have stability issues, even with the slight change in rake, there are other factors to be concerned with. I run a type 1 Terror Flex on the front and Hoss still seems real stable at 70mph long as I'm goin straight. Rod -- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Andrus Chesley" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell > wrote: > > > > I got together with some local KLR guys the other day and one

had a

> > 18 inch front rim / tire (fatter tire). He loved it when they

all

> > went riding in rocky areas in Arkansas recently. I asked how it

was

> > at high speed and he said a little squirriley due to an

increased

> > fork angle but overall was happy with it. He said it costs him

about

> > $50 to do. I wonder if anyone has ever tried a 19 inch or 20

front

> > rim with wide tire? > > > > Criswell > > > > A friend of mine in Ohio whom still does dirt track and ice racing > stuff is fixing to lace an 18" on his KLR he just bought. He told

me

> something like on 1/2" of less diameter on outer diameter of the

front

> wheel due to the larger tire. > Any one do a measurement on this also. > Also looks like you could do a ride height adjustment with

extenders

> or the like. > I once did a 19" on my old XT Yamaha 500 with good results. Good > stability and all. > > Andy in Jennings, La. >

[West Hovland]

www.ProCycle.us will lace up rims for KLR's as well. Jeff is a highly accomplished mechanic, machinist and does excellent work at a fair price. West___ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rodney Copeland]

Thanks Wes, the more the merrier! Some of the obstacles with this is the fact that if you want to save bucks, you'll use a rear wheel already drilled from somethin else. The dimple and hole angle will not aim the spokes at a front hub like it did the rear hub it was intended for. The holes in the dimples will have to be drilled to compensate or all the spokes will be bent when it's laced up. It's a Lucky Hoodlum that can find a wheel guy who will talk to him and help get a project like this goin! Rod --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, WEST HOVLAND wrote:

> > www.ProCycle.us will lace up rims for KLR's as well. Jeff is a

highly accomplished mechanic, machinist and does excellent work at a fair price.

> > West___ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[rockiedog2]

If I read your post right you put an 18 inch rear rim on the front hub. My rear is a 17. What am I missimg here? thx Joe

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Rodney Copeland" wrote: > > I've logged over 25,000 miles since early 04 when I transplanted the > big 18 rear on the front of the Hoss KLR. > Since then I've done Pam's Sherpa too and have over 8,000 miles with > a big rear 18 on the front. > We won't be goin back. > The increase in stability in all conditions outweigh any small > change in rake or increase in weight. > I knew quite a few are doin this transplant now, but haven't seen > any others till this year in Tennessee and New Mexico. > I don't feel so lonely anymore. > I've been sendin anyone that asks, to Woody's Wheel Works and > haven't heard any complaints. > This certainly wouldn't qualify as a "Must Do" type thing, but sure > has been a blast in the mud and sand! > I don't really carve the streets hard, I'm knobbed pretty good, but > the Super Moto Hoodlums seem to like big rubber on the front. > Not sure about the fit of a 19 inch rim with a say 120-90 rear tire > on the front of a KLR. > It may get you up in the more narrow area between the fork boots and > rub. > Maybe a lower profile would work. > I used the 18s for better tire selection and clearance. > I agree that if you have this much more rubber on the ground and > have stability issues, even with the slight change in rake, there > are other factors to be concerned with. > I run a type 1 Terror Flex on the front and Hoss still seems real > stable at 70mph long as I'm goin straight. > Rod > > > > > -- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Andrus Chesley" > wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell > > wrote: > > > > > > I got together with some local KLR guys the other day and one > had a > > > 18 inch front rim / tire (fatter tire). He loved it when they > all > > > went riding in rocky areas in Arkansas recently. I asked how it > was > > > at high speed and he said a little squirriley due to an > increased > > > fork angle but overall was happy with it. He said it costs him > about > > > $50 to do. I wonder if anyone has ever tried a 19 inch or 20 > front > > > rim with wide tire? > > > > > > Criswell > > > > > > > A friend of mine in Ohio whom still does dirt track and ice racing > > stuff is fixing to lace an 18" on his KLR he just bought. He told > me > > something like on 1/2" of less diameter on outer diameter of the > front > > wheel due to the larger tire. > > Any one do a measurement on this also. > > Also looks like you could do a ride height adjustment with > extenders > > or the like. > > I once did a 19" on my old XT Yamaha 500 with good results. Good > > stability and all. > > > > Andy in Jennings, La. > > >