nklr - more modifications

[C L Cooper]

So... why not buy a few shares, and collect dividends paid by the "tight cabal" of publicly traded oil production and distribution companies. If you do a little homework a 15% annual return is, well, ho-hum.... As for corporate "externalization" of costs - moving costs to individuals or entities outside the corporations - many times unknowingly paid by the bearer of the the expense - results from the legal mandate given corporations. Make a profit, or else. As long as we citizens allow it, nothing will change. Problem is, we like our lifestyle with all the cheap products... like food, gasoline, clothes, and don't really want to become too involved in the gritty details of industrial accidents, cancer increases, slave-like life style of exploited developing countries, and environmental destruction resulting from the amoral, plundering corporate profit motive. Don't forget all of the "taxing authorities" that have their hand out all along the production and consumption cycle. I know, sounds like I'm anti-capitalism. Not so, but a realistic understanding of the situation and risk assessment *must* be part of any the analysis. Hmmm.... that's more than two words. Guess I'll get down off my soap box and shut up for a while ;~)

On 5/14/07, mbetcher wrote: > > As the other fella said, "Boo hoo" indeed. Your tale of the tragic > sacrifice oil companies make so selflessly on our behalf could be just > as easily applied to any other industry. Agricultural workers breathe > in dust and toxic pesticides, iron workers fall off bridges, etc., > etc., etc. And as for the cost of production do you think that the > apples in your local Safeway just show up there by some magical > process rather than through an expensive and complicated supply chain? > The principal difference is that most industries operate in a free > market environment where their profit margins are defined by supply > and demand, rather than by a tight cabal of oil producers and > refiners, all of whom have a vested interest in minimizing competition > as a means of maximizing profit. > > You can cry all you want about your noble suffering, but the > end-of-year profit statements of big oil indicate that obscene > profiteering is the norm. Enron executives finally got caught > manipulating the electricity market -- we can only hope that > ExxonMobile execs meet the same fate. > > By the way, if your work is so dirty and dangerous why don't you try > something else? Haven't you suffered enough for your fellow man? How > much selflesss nobility can one person be expected to show? > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , > "fuelistocheap" wrote: > > > > Well i have to say you hit a soft spot complaining about fuel > > prices. I Drill oil and Gas wells For a living . In a typical year > > in my company 3 men die. And mabey 15-20 loose fingers/hands. not to > > mention the one hundred or so That require hospitalization for other > > injurys.As for the costs involved in getting the fuel to you! After > > A sesmic survey ( easily a few million if helicopters involved). > > Buying rights to the land ( few hunded thou - several mil), Building > > an acess road and drilling lease ( half mil) Drilling a Few miles in > > the earth. Few hunded thou to 20+ mil. Post drilling environmental > > clean up.( up to 1 mil) Government well Head taxes. building > > pipeline from well head to existing pipe line. Or build Resivoir on > > site. Hundred thou to mil. Refine the oil into gas and add > > appropriate additives. Truck the refined fuel to local Gas > > stations.Then it gets pumped into your vehicle where the price > > includes Both federal and State taxes. And the oil company still has > > turn a profit for share holders. They do it by volume! they are > > lucky to get a dime of profit out of a gallon. And yet still you > > complain and feel you are being gouged. If fuel were say perhaps > > double what it is now We would all buy alot less and use more > > efficient modes of transit. Perhaps we would live close enough to > > ride a bicycle to work or even walk. we might carpool and take > > transit. The feasability of alternative fuels would increase. And > > you never know more people might even enjoy the ride to work on > > there fuel sipping klr. Sorry for the rant folks but i can,t > > stand whining about fuel when most of us would pay 5 bucks for a > > simple 18 0z coffee from starbucks and not even think we were being > > gouged. Don,t get sucked in By marketing. And remember those guys > > who die every year just so you can have gas to burn as you see fit. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[blocloc]

And the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER MONTH PROFIT DOESN'T BOTHER YOU!!!!

----- Original Message ----- From: "fuelistocheap" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: More Modifications > Well i have to say you hit a soft spot complaining about fuel > prices. I Drill oil and Gas wells For a living . In a typical year > in my company 3 men die. And mabey 15-20 loose fingers/hands. not to > mention the one hundred or so That require hospitalization for other > injurys.As for the costs involved in getting the fuel to you! After > A sesmic survey ( easily a few million if helicopters involved). > Buying rights to the land ( few hunded thou - several mil), Building > an acess road and drilling lease ( half mil) Drilling a Few miles in > the earth. Few hunded thou to 20+ mil. Post drilling environmental > clean up.( up to 1 mil) Government well Head taxes. building > pipeline from well head to existing pipe line. Or build Resivoir on > site. Hundred thou to mil. Refine the oil into gas and add > appropriate additives. Truck the refined fuel to local Gas > stations.Then it gets pumped into your vehicle where the price > includes Both federal and State taxes. And the oil company still has > turn a profit for share holders. They do it by volume! they are > lucky to get a dime of profit out of a gallon. And yet still you > complain and feel you are being gouged. If fuel were say perhaps > double what it is now We would all buy alot less and use more > efficient modes of transit. Perhaps we would live close enough to > ride a bicycle to work or even walk. we might carpool and take > transit. The feasability of alternative fuels would increase. And > you never know more people might even enjoy the ride to work on > there fuel sipping klr. Sorry for the rant folks but i can,t > stand whining about fuel when most of us would pay 5 bucks for a > simple 18 0z coffee from starbucks and not even think we were being > gouged. Don,t get sucked in By marketing. And remember those guys > who die every year just so you can have gas to burn as you see fit. > > > > > > > o=--- > In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: >> >> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" >> wrote: >> > >> > Who are we to pass judgment on what is and isn't a mod? One > man's >> mod >> > may be another man's minor adjustment. Big deal. >> > >> > FWIW, my criterion is that if a person intentionally acts to > change >> the >> > bike in any way from its stock setup, its a mod. Its up to the >> reader to >> > decide whether it is or is not a significant mod, hopefully in >> private. >> > Personally I enjoy skimming your mods list when it shows up but > I >> think >> > the best mod is the dent we all put in our seats when we're > riding. >> > >> > Mike A18 >> >> List, and beyond. >> Perhaps we have all noticed the newest summer mod (again). >> $3.25/gal in central SD. THAT certainly mods my 'lovely > attitude' >> when I fill up the 44gal Suburban or 5 gal of KLR smiles. YIKES! > I >> am going to have to exchange my winter air for summer air in my > other >> 2-wheel conveyance, and I mean, pedal conveyance. revmaaatin. >> > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >