nklr - awd kit for motorcycles

[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don S" To: "Ed Chait" ; "Douglas Bouley" ; "Andrus Chesley" Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Next new bike > Hi Ed. > > That's because you ride it. I would assume in likely far more > inhospitable environments than the other. Even an axe has to be sharpened > once and a while. Oh yeah, and don't forget what you paid for them. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo No, it's actually because the Sportster has a clean, quiet, and almost maintenance-free belt drive and self-adjusting valves. It has also been completely trouble-free in all the time I have owned it as opposed to my KLR which has had clutch safety switch troubles, fuse troubles, and a carburator whose idle and low speed circuits would consistently gum up at the factory settings. The quality of the switches, wiring harness, and assorted hardware is also considerably higher on the Sportster. I had to replace most of the fasteners on my KLR right away because of their poor quality. I still consider it a great bike, and I've owned many, but in regards to maintenance issues and raw quality, there really isn't much comparison. ed A17

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Chait" wrote:

> > No, it's actually because the Sportster has a clean, quiet, and

almost

> maintenance-free belt drive and self-adjusting valves. It has also

been

> completely trouble-free in all the time I have owned it as opposed

to my KLR

> which has had clutch safety switch troubles, fuse troubles, and a

carburator

> whose idle and low speed circuits would consistently gum up at the

factory

> settings. > > The quality of the switches, wiring harness, and assorted hardware

is also

> considerably higher on the Sportster. > > I had to replace most of the fasteners on my KLR right away because

of their

> poor quality. > > I still consider it a great bike, and I've owned many, but in

regards to

> maintenance issues and raw quality, there really isn't much

comparison.

> > > > ed > A17 >

Ed, for the benefit of those who like all motorcycles, share with us the year of your Sportster and tell us the year that it made the biggest differece in "Sportster quality" Others might like H-D, but any bike that is low maintenacne (by your own testimony) and has the heritage of "Bronson" behind it, is worth looking at...just not the '68 Sportster (wink). Is yours the 883 or the 1200? revmaaatin.

[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "revmaaatin" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Next new bike > Ed, for the benefit of those who like all motorcycles, share with us the year of your Sportster and tell us the year that it made the biggest differece in "Sportster quality" Others might like H-D, but any bike that is low maintenacne (by your own testimony) and has the heritage of "Bronson" behind it, is worth looking at...just not the '68 Sportster (wink). Is yours the 883 or the 1200? revmaaatin. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Mine is a 2004 883 XL Standard. In 2004, HD finally decided to rubber-mount the Sporster engine. That was what sealed my decision to buy one. Some Sporster owners find the vibration of the previous year Sporsters endearing, but not me. The 2004 and up Sportsters vibrate enough to let you know you're on a Sportster, but they are very smooth and comfortable bikes to ride. I'm not into cruisers, so I bought an 883 Standard, which has a very neutral sitting position and mid-mounted pegs. The 1200 Roadster model also has the same basic ergonomics. In regards to build quality, HD's in general have increased in that area since the Evo era. Mine hasn't leaked a drop of oil since new and as I mentioned previously, has been completely reliable. The 2007 and up Sporsters are fuel injected and have excellent throttle response without requiring any twiddling at all. Mine was lean as delivered and required some needle shimming and increasing the pilot jet size. Even with those mods, it still gets around 50 mpg. The Sportster is really very similar to the KLR in regards to versatility. It is a bike that can be turned into anything you want. Cafe racer, cruiser, or somewhere in between. It can do it all. ed A17 2004 xl 883

[dooden]

Yamaha was in development on the a bike couple years back, but yet to see it reach market, kinda lost track. Yaamaha was using a hydro pump off the countershaft, but basic concept I suppose. Cool Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" wrote: > > Check it out at http://www.christini.com/motorcycle/index.php > > I wonder if this would mount to a KLR. $6,800 for the kit is too steep > for me! >

[Samuel Hudson]

Anyone seen those kits that move the sporty controls to more upright and the trick it out with performance parts? I think those are cool. --sam hudson, san antonio tx.

[Matt Knowles]

On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Garrett Smith wrote:

> Enjoy your ride, whatever it is. Just ride it and don't clean it too > much!

I employ this line of thinking for just about all my vehicles, including the two that actually do look better when they're clean, the Sprint and my Honda Del Sol. Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned

[Norm Keller]

Does your Sportster use the same carb as your KLR? If so, what do you believe is the reason for more carb problems on your KLR? Do Harley use a different screen/filter? Haven't wrenched a Harley in many years so just wondering. Norm Chilliwack, Canada [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Michael Silverstein]

I have an '82 Vision (HYPERLINK "http://www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/ ... standoutne t.com/extras/mike/motorcycles/xz550) that I've been nursing along for decades, and could always use access to a parts contact within driving distance. Any chance of getting his email? Mike A18 KLR650 tires page: [www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcy ... r650/tires] -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Grisanti Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:22 PM To: Matt Knowles; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Next new bike

>Personally, I'd take a working 1983 Yamaha Vision

over >the Victory version. If you're interested, there's a guy who runs a local shop here in Richmond with a couple of runners and about 4 parts bikes. Says he just "wound up with them." Stephen --- Matt Knowles wrote:

> That's about as far away from a KLR as you could > get! > > When I heard about this one, I was surprised that > Yamaha didn't keep > the Vision name trademarked in case they ever wanted > to reuse it. > > Personally, I'd take a working 1983 Yamaha Vision > over the Victory > version. > >

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> > On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Mike Peplinski wrote: > > > I was knocked over by the upcoming 2008 KLR, but > after seeing this, > > I'm not > > so sure. > > >

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> > This I gotta have! > > Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - > HYPERLINK

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> '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) > '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast > backroads > '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt > '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle > I ever owned > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Stephen Grisanti]

The business is called Pro Class Cycles on Hopkins Road in Richmond, Virginia. Phone number is 804-232-2300. I'm not sure if the two runners are his personal bikes or in the inventory (he mostly does dirt bike parts and tuning, but has an odd little junkyard and sells used bikes), but it's worth a call. No email that I know of. Stephen --- Michael Silverstein wrote:

> I have an '82 Vision (HYPERLINK >

"http://www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/ ... standoutne

> t.com/extras/mike/motorcycles/xz550) that I've been > nursing along for > decades, and could always use access to a parts > contact within driving > distance. Any chance of getting his email? > > > Mike A18 > KLR650 tires page: >

[www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcy ... r650/tires]

> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Stephen Grisanti > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:22 PM > To: Matt Knowles; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Next new bike > > > > >Personally, I'd take a working 1983 Yamaha Vision > over >the Victory version. > > If you're interested, there's a guy who runs a local > shop here in Richmond with a couple of runners and > about 4 parts bikes. Says he just "wound up with > them." > > Stephen > > --- Matt Knowles

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> wrote: > > > That's about as far away from a KLR as you could > > get! > > > > When I heard about this one, I was surprised that > > Yamaha didn't keep > > the Vision name trademarked in case they ever > wanted > > to reuse it. > > > > Personally, I'd take a working 1983 Yamaha Vision > > over the Victory > > version. > > > > > HYPERLINK >

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> nowlesv-ille.com/-matt/motorcycles-/vision83.-html > > > > On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Mike Peplinski wrote: > > > > > I was knocked over by the upcoming 2008 KLR, but > > after seeing this, > > > I'm not > > > so sure. > > > > > > HYPERLINK >

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> > > This I gotta have! > > > > Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - > > HYPERLINK >

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> om/-matt/motorcycles > > '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) > > '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast > > backroads > > '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt > > '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle > > I ever owned > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > HYPERLINK >

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[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Keller" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Next new bike > Does your Sportster use the same carb as your KLR? If so, what do you > believe is the reason for more carb problems on your KLR? Do Harley use a > different screen/filter? > > Haven't wrenched a Harley in many years so just wondering. > > Norm > > Chilliwack, Canada > Uses exactly the same carb. I think the issue with it gumming up on the KLR regularly was that the mixture screw was set even leaner than it was on my Sportster, which was also set pretty lean. In order to keep the KLR running at all, I would have to run Berryman's B12 in the gas all the time to keep the carb from gumming up. I fixed it by drilling out the cap over the mixture screw and turning it out to about 2.5 turns, and I also shimmed the needle, which really helped smooth out the midrange. Don't get me wrong, the carb on the Sportster also needed similar attention, but it wasn't set as lean from the factory as my KLR. The 2007 Sporties are fuel-injected. If/when the XR1200 Sportster is released in the US, I will do whatever it takes to get one. ed A17